"Quidditch" (or: How we fly on a broom?) - How to shoot?
Frage von Maxisoft2: September 2007
Dear Slashcammer,
Since 2 weeks I have s.einer 1: almost 1 copy of 'Quidditch - Stadium "from one of the first Harry Potter movies worked, and me while modeling in 3D Studio Max taught. Sogesehen my first-ever-made 3dsmax model.
The whole thing has a "personal touch" get, and I am with the outcome (if not synonymous with the rendering times in 3d Studio Max) quite happy. (See http://www.maxisoft-online.de/quidditch.jpg)
Nun zu meiner eigentlichen Frage: Die Akteure, die für einen Filmakademie-Bewerbungsfilm durchs Picture rasen sollen, müssen auf irgendeine Art and Weise aufgenommen werden.
Ich sehe mir nun schon seit einigen Stunden Making-Of's der Originalfilme an, jedoch ohne erfolg. Das Ganze scheint ein gut gehütetes Geheimnis of Warner Brother's zu sein - Wer nicht weis, was Quidditch ist, der sehe sich diesen Film an: http://youtube.com/watch?v=mSZryVBd_3Q
In order to realize is my Dolly (Dolly Since only the left / right move, but a movement synonymous to the camera needed to be a dolly-only solution does not fit.), A large Green Screen (10x6m, a wall along) and a remote head Kamerakran WITHOUT available, as well as my Steadycam (which probably is more likely fail s.Platze).
My guess would be that in the original movie actors at the "Reitbesen" sat, but the broom was permanently installed (no wire acts or movements), and that only the camera on a crane with remote head mounted to the actor moves through and Match Moving then into the exact matches Ausgerenderte scene.
Since I neither a budget of 150 000 0 $ a Kamerakran with Remothead and Match Moving programming is available, I thought that I just ask you creative minds.
If you one, for small budget feasible solution of the problem?
I appreciate all the creative outpourings,
EDIT: Before someone beschwehrt that I am in the field, the fabric forgot that hang in a circle below -> My PC already counts as 4 minutes per picture, with this fabric while it is 30-40 min. and therefore only feasible without, finally, I would like my 25 fp / s :-)
Antwort von birgit66:
what happened to me since grad stopped, still camera, or on the crane only up / down goes with brooms and actor on a rotating plate, before green screen. Only so ne idee
Antwort von Maxisoft2:
Hello!
The idea seems quite good. However, - alone for the realism, the legs hanging freely.
I have this on film swept a bicycle saddle on, during the Filmerei always hidden and not visible. (otherwise all male cast forever after incapable of producing rotary) So hang the broom well.
Had previously attempted, how well you brush s.den ropes can control - is all but impossible. He rocks just only out-and so forth are not good movement possible. VTL should I install it more firmly, so s.einer metal rod, the distance from the ground?
Really tricky the whole, would be glad if a few people with ideas melden!
EDIT:
I have the whole thing with the turntable again aufgemalt. The idea is awesome! Had at first thought not properly considered - The Turntable / Crane are actually almost 3-dimensional movements possible! Sole front / back tilting are therefore not possible, the rest was. So the basic movements in essence. Nurnoch remains to consider how I am the actor, including broom body diagonally.
Antwort von C.I.W:
So in the film were the broom on hydraulic machines drauf. But the price for such a thing ...
Antwort von thos-berlin:
The camera movement is sure to some extent easier than the broom. A suspension is always something s.Seilen wiggle. Whether as a safe seat for the player is possible, I venture to doubt.
So the idea with the bike in my opinion is: not at all bad. If you on a rack mounted on the ground and also in the keying color is painted, you should set the frame in good illumination wegkeyen can. Slight "wobbling motion" you can possibly still with the editing program accomplish.
Antwort von Blackeagle123:
Hey,
but everything that's ever a great approach: Do not forget the white tracking points or crosses s.Greenscreen (simply stick), so that you later movement of the camera Cinema4d can take leave. (see below) (Turning you the actor in front of the green screen, but only recognize the tracking points, the camera still quiet, this movement is not recognized! Any small movement of the camera but is over!)
a) adjusting the Kamerakran on Dolly: Then turn Kamerakran to the actor and you move it up and down. Let the movement (eg of Icarus - know the exact name does not, just google, there several programs) recognize. The program creates in you a Camera Cinema4d, exactly the movement of the original camera has. Cut out the Besenritt then together with your video!
b) Install the brush on an old office chair. Mount it so that you are the chair easily to right / left can move, maybe even high and down. (For the chair s.besten reduce ;-)) Films from Tripod, or with the Kamerakran up / down. Let again the movement to recognize and correct rotational movement that the actor does on his chair by hand!
In between, always nice closeups of the actors, of course, the fan s.besten stand so that the beautiful hair flutter!
So I hope you will come next. :)
Liebe Grüße, Constantin
Antwort von yodaxy:
echt geile arbeit!! zb the quittich falde! kiann about only one thing I say hats off !!!!!!!!
I did not ask how much does the program 3D Studio Max what you've done? and where do you get it ?????
Antwort von Blackeagle123:
you know that the video excerpts from the Harry Potter movie, right?
I think the work is not with 3D Studio Max ;-) I recommend you to take home Cinema 4D, professionals to work more with Maya. With Maya I am not clear ;-)
