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Frage von dietz:


Hello fans!

I have a serious problem.
A company has entrusted me with the Canon EOS 5D MKII abzufilmen a scene (or care) in the actor will be illuminated with Beamer.

And the test is a Fater bar.
If, of course, by the 30 B / s and the 25 fps of PAL and our 50Hz mains.

Is there any solution? Clear scan is not.

Thanks for all.
It burns the hat. Extended rotation with huge effort ...
lg
Dietmar



Antwort von pilskopf:

Can you not adjust with the shutter?



Antwort von Zizi:

when shutter at 1 / 30 you should not have problems with NTSC!
Since you can even nem of 50hz tube monitor einigermasen abfilmen!



Antwort von pilskopf:

But he has Pal as a template. It's probably a question that is already real and filmed the actor with beamers angeleuchtet but will run in Pal.
At least if I have understood correctly.



Antwort von dietz:

hey

thanks for the quick reply
who want the shutter on / 30 and PAL can beam right.
6000 Hz with an expensive Beamer had streak and with a cheap sanyo gehts apparently.
trial and error or logical solution?

Thank you



Antwort von pilskopf:

So actually there but you can only get out botch imo. You can not conjure up when the projector and set the shutter and then you strip searched, so do you do? The problem is it homemade. If a shutter of 1 / 100 does not remedy the situation?

I'm not the crack in the area but I have different setting each shutter strip wegbekommen when I get a monitor in the picture did. Whether 60Hz, 50Hz or whatever. Maybe I now synonymous a mistake but the pros still come and post the solution. : D



Antwort von B.DeKid:

With the shutter you can possibly get a grip deen. That is consistent.

But apparently you've already completed or rotated?

If not maybe you should borrow one over the right video camera to consider.

MfG
B. DeKid

PS: At home in front of Rotate sollche to test things look better than it later to vermurksen. Beamer if not get there in the PC shop borrowed.



Antwort von pilskopf:

If I'm not all wrong, the Beamer synonymous NTSC playback, this may actually a beamer, so take an NTSC source and you should be synonymous to the desired shutter can be maintained. But Pal Beamer and shutter at 30 will always leave strip.



Antwort von dietz:

hallo diskussonsgemeinde brisk.

so I guess this will be trial and error botch.
It will only be rotated and which have just tested and I daef pay for this now.
I hope the synonymous to the professionals, but rejected because there seems no other solution anyway. perhaps beamer specialists among you?

thank f contributions






Antwort von dietz:

PS synonymous company and the customer usually turns on 35mm.
synonymous not know what this is sparing flamme.
because the turning is also expensive as 35th only saves you just the 3000, - per day of materials otherwise nix.



Antwort von pilskopf:

Recording the projector with NTSC material. That should work, or better said, it could work. This is of course my 4 years old BenQ beamer.



Antwort von Valentino:

"Dietz" wrote: PS synonymous company and the customer usually turns on 35mm.
synonymous not know what this is sparing flamme.
because the turning is also expensive as 35th only saves you just the 3000, - per day of materials otherwise nix.
And because the solution would be a lot easier synonymous, an ESU (External Sync unit) s.die Camera? and the video as FBAS s.die ESCU?. If the video source is always the same, then it is for film cameras even just to "stage" to press the bar and walks out of the picture. ;-)
Ne Seriously, I would shoot for more of a HDCAM or perhaps even a RED One borrow. Both cameras have a clear scan function and are not more expensive than the 5D MKII, if you observe how much this camera costs at a rotation that can cause, because the sharpness is not right or something.
When everything is like a 35mm swivel, then costs alone but already the light that is four times, but get the most production managers simply do not.
Otherwise, I would recommend you have different types and brands Beamer to test, say DLP, LCD, etc.



Antwort von dietz:

OK THANKS FOR THE ESU tip, but unfortunately we do not turn to good old 35th
yes the abusive of the film camera with phase kenn ich. I work normally so synonymous with film cameras ...

but with the SLR is now first send pause, because the brand new camera the same time actually passes. ie it has suspended the supply s.usb and try the firmware update to make. not responding more ...
morgen gehts times equal to the technicians.

wonder not what the s.dem gets so great find. probably because they just bought a camera and think they can now to "stinginess is cool" self-produce.
where the leads we have seen worldwide. but well ... we remain at the technology.

tomorrow will be me playing with the beamer. if not synonymous, the loan equal to the spirit up.
a tip was synonymous laptop on the playback to 60Hz. maybe yes brings the desired success.

thanks for any suggestions.
Please continue to study!



Antwort von dietz:

no solution in sight ...
Many factors change.
synonymous NTSC helps nothing.
always this colorful stripes in the image.
the shorter the shutter speed more colorful.

?
tja
haphazardly s.ende



Antwort von WideScreen:

So who Kinpse with its "great movies" wants, which is itself to blame. Who much money to spend NEN rotation should not be a hobby equipment use.
So I think that you are not a real solution will be found ....



Antwort von dietz:

tja really seems so. now they take the beamer from the hotel where they were perpetrating the motive. in which it is supposedly gone, or was it acceptable.
will discuss here in any case, after turning report.

thank you for any event s.alle efforts

lg aus wien



Antwort von Zizi:

I've already Geshes the biography of a beamer PAL is running without any problems abfilmen!
Quote: So who Kinpse with its "great movies" wants, which is itself to blame. Who much money to spend NEN rotation should not be a hobby equipment use.

I remember 6 months ago where professional camera operators regarding the 5D2 Müdes only a smile and have to keep idiocy!
These are precisely the people they now before a Red One and rotate an entire 2 hours movie!
Anyway, in America, but synonymous movies in 30p rotated it sooner or later synonymous in Europe to see ..
Of the half-forth all that bad!
Cilium problems since I had an XH A1 ntsc already no longer "normal" Schutter at 1 / 60



Antwort von WideScreen:

And I already have horses in front of the pharmacy Kotzen seen ....






Antwort von MK:

"Zizi" wrote: Anyway, in America, but synonymous movies in 30p rotated it sooner or later synonymous in Europe to see ..


In the professional field rather rare until garnicht.



Antwort von pilskopf:

Is it possible from the material have a smooth Pal DVD?



Antwort von TheBubble:

"pilskopf" wrote: Is it possible from the material have a smooth Pal DVD?

From 30p shots PAL (50i) do? Yes you can, with the usual changes in standard quality losses (varies depending on the technology).



Antwort von Zizi:

Quote: In the professional field rather rare until garnicht.

So I've already read many öffters television / film in the USA / Japan with 29.97 ie 30p will be rotated.
the rest in 24p!
With AE you can pretty well in 30p convert 25p without a noticeable difference!



Antwort von pilskopf:

Thanks for the tip with AE. Do I have a student say the apparently does not know and they were tested.



Antwort von Pianist:

"Dietz" wrote: It burns the hat. Extended rotation with huge effort ...
Since you have but a stupid customers when his film with a digital SLR camera would like to turn to alternative, with a video function. My condolences.

Matthias



Antwort von Pianist:

"Valentino" wrote: Ne Seriously, I would shoot for more of a HDCAM or perhaps even a RED One borrow.
Use the red one because it comes from bad to worse. Then really prefer a stinknormale HDCAM or if it is a little better and are particularly easy nachzubearbeiten be an Ikegami Editcam HD. The is now synonymous in four German cities



Antwort von Zizi:

Quote: Since you have but a stupid customers when his film with a digital SLR camera would like to turn to alternative, with a video function. My condolences.

Na dan beating was better before?
The 5D MARK2 clean FullHD makes what is Blueraytauglich costs less as the full rent of its HDCAM and so incidentally, is yet more light!
The Red one will cost 20 times and you can borrow without operator garnich!
Always these statements: the 5D is just a photo with clippers FullHD video ..
It is much more than that .. she holds a small sensor size is larger as the 35mm film, this is really remarkable, if not embarrassing if ¬ 20,000 Cams sowas not even offer!
up to 30p, I no argument as to why Price Conscious film producer with a 5D does not shoot it?