Frage von Asjoker:
Hi,
times I want to ask if anyone of you knows a good address where I am the Canon XH A1 cheap on 1 or more years can pay off in installments.
I'm kind of too stupid to search ... the few I've found, have the price with grossly exaggerated.
Or what do you how much% price increase, I can max. expect?
Danke schon mal:)
Antwort von derchiller:
Take a good credit with a bank! When dealers pay you 10% eff. Annual interest rate.
Banks was good if you can find (negotiate) at least half less ...
Antwort von derchiller:
Banks was good if you can find (negotiate) at least half less ... Thus a quark. Auto financing is exactly the same as electronics, partly synonymous through the same banks. And now, guess where you have 0 or 2, or 4 percent psbekommst. I'll give you times a hint: the bank is not.
Antwort von derchiller:
If you have a house as a guarantee of the bank transfer can, then get money for 3-4 %..., did not pay much ...
Antwort von baststar:
I am interested in the synonymous. For tips and hints I would be grateful therefore synonymous!
Antwort von derchiller:
If you have a house as a guarantee of the bank transfer can, then get money for 3-4 %..., did not pay much ... What you talking about? You do have a mortgage! Consumer credit in the banks run on very different terms. Now please tell nothing of the Citibank offers "S.3, 99%". Emphasis is on "starting." Then is when you have 5000 and want the inside of a few months, immediate refund.
Sun is looking out if you just need ¬ 10,000:
Credit Plus Bank
Credit Plus Instant credit 5.30%
4.30% - 11.50% ** 48 months 226.77 ¬ 884.73 ¬
Citibank
Citibank Online Credit 5.99% - 11.07% ** 48 months ¬ 234.08 ¬ 1235.79
DKB - Dt. Kreditbank
DKB-private loans 6.45% 48 months ¬ 236.08 ¬ 1331.63
SWK Bank
Online credit directly 6.75% 48 months ¬ 237.38 ¬ 1394.20
BHW Bank
BHW online credit 6.85% 48 months ¬ 237.81 ¬ 1415.06
BMW Bank
Premium Financial Services 7.49% - 12.69% ** 48 months ¬ 240.60 ¬ 1548.73
Santander Direkt Bank
Best Credit 7.95% 48 months ¬ 242.60 ¬ 1644.94
ING DiBa
Loan 8.52% 48 months ¬ 245.09 ¬ 1764.30
GE Money Bank
Instant credit 8.99% 48 months ¬ 247.14 ¬ 1862.83 and what is called "4.30% - 11.50%"? Exactly - depending on your placement you pay more. Is called "scoring" - if you have bad luck and in the wrong area live, you get no more than a warm pile in your hand.
Antwort von Eugen von ...:
If you have a house as a guarantee of the bank transfer can, then get money for 3-4 %..., did not pay much ... for a consumer loan, there is no long secured more ... have no houses. Where you live now?
Antwort von Bernd E.:
So ... look out of if you just need 10,000 ¬: ... If you have a XH-A1 10,000 euros need, I would buy it somewhere else anyway ... Therefore, for a change back to the main topic: the moment is the Canon there is just not in the offer (s.besten times ask if they may still be available), but what rate of purchase, I have good experience with Redcoon made. The exact interest rate today I can not say more, but the camera was definitely still cheaper than the already heruntergehandelte deadweight price at the Media Markt.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Asjoker:
Hmm .. seems to be a bit tricky ...
Borrowing would be the last s.das I would have thought ...
würd me not just feel good ...
redcoon seems not so bad to be.
Pity is that the Canon XH A1 is not in stock, but I have to make sure demand times, times look what it comes out.
Thanks for the tip
If you have someone who is attractive offers / options for Canon XH A1 should be, I would be grateful to me if he could give a hint:)
Antwort von rush:
Look at computeruniverse.net! There is the possibility of extremely flexible rates to choose. For rates around 6 months you pay no interest and the XH-A1 is then synonymous of her price located in the lower third.
Did the shop on my laptop was easily financed.
Antwort von Asjoker:
Hi,
thanks for the good Page.
0% financing, I like to hear;)
But I think after a long time now but decided to start with the HV20 and after a while my XH A1 to buy.
But there's so synonymous doubly so thx
Can you pack everything in one purchase, more than 6 months. Echt Genial XD
To solve many problems of money:)
THX to all!
Antwort von Eugen von ...:
begin with the HV20 and after a while my XH A1 to buy.
Are you sure that this is a good decision? Either you're using the HV20 until they "to" is (and then you can use a long wait to XH), or you sell it in a year (and set a pile of money in the sand - after all is the successor for a while already on the market plus the already strong value loss) - as always synonymous, the HV20 will cost you only money and you tend
not to your goal closer.
Because I would advise you better, just the right camera to take and that the rates manageable stretch. Even better: saving and in the meantime continue with the film, what you have.
Here:
To solve many problems of money:) Smiley read but without the banks namely extremely happy ;-))
Eugen
Antwort von comix:
Hi,
thanks for the good Page.
0% financing, I like to hear;)
But I think after a long time now but decided to start with the HV20 and after a while my XH A1 to buy.
But there's so synonymous doubly so thx
Can you pack everything in one purchase, more than 6 months. Echt Genial XD
To solve many problems of money:)
THX to all! Good decision. Let the with the rates. Video is generally a hobby where many are off (see the full use 4-5 ).... Cams on eBay
And payment for a "fun items" I would recommend anyone. Man is happy when you hire can take if they really need.
The HV20 is the perfect introduction, with accessories and is not so much of the XH-A1 removed as all say. You can get really any crap for that is tested. . Only the manual adjustment is tricky, but there are ways and means synonymous. There are _kein_ Forum of the size only for a camera. (except DVX, but there are synonymous 5x longer;))
Antwort von comix:
begin with the HV20 and after a while my XH A1 to buy.
Are you sure that this is a good decision? Either you're using the HV20 until they "to" is (and then you can use a long wait to XH), or you sell it in a year (and set a pile of money in the sand - after all is the successor for a while already on the market plus the already strong value loss) - as always synonymous, the HV20 will cost you only money and you tend not to your goal closer.
Because I would advise you better, just the right camera to take and that the rates manageable stretch. Even better: saving and in the meantime continue with the film, what you have. Of course, you can shoot for a handling develop synonymous with a 50 ¬-Aiptek-cucumber. The HV series is probably no great loss. By 2009, nothing like new technology, this is the margin for XH-A1 and the prosumer as small as never before. "A bunch of money put into the sand" is something else.
Antwort von Asjoker:
nochma thx ^ ^
Yes on the question whether I first HV20 (or HV30 is indeed the same) to buy or equal to the XH A1 I would go for days the hair ausgezupft.
I give up the hobby is actually as good as impossible and even if I would always buy from a friend (the XH A1) because it is not easy but filming of a child to live ^ ^.
So we buy the XH A1 is safe ...
The stupid is that we pretty much just want to buy and do not have much money or credit with nothing to risk and so forth.
Was still in front of a Kamerakran, a Steadicam, a dummy with rail system, a computer equipment and furniture, etc. as synonymous for the films (ads) to buy.
even optimistic view because it comes on over 2000 + and the Canon XH A1 which then would be 5500 euros (Treasures of the ma simple accessories nochma 500 is)
Since we anyway want to start with advertising and then Wide Anglesowieso not (or rarely) is needed so we start with Canon HV20 at. If this goes well we will have enough money anyway;)
Ne Wide Anglebei the possibility of the Canon HV20 to expand, there are no or yes?
Would be nice ...
Thanks for your answers:))
Antwort von Monk:
But, with converters.
Antwort von HansMaulwurf:
1. The dummy rail system must not be. Purchase a dummy with roles below it. Dekra verhökert frequently used. Fear but without wheels.
2. I think the accessories more than 500 euro.
3. True - Advertising and Wide Angle Close fundamentally from.
I want you so do not disillusion, but if you despite your spelling and pronounced weakness specialist not an incredibly creative head're simply in the practical application can shine, for heaven's sake take no credit for ...
If you `s you can afford, get the HV20 is a good camera, practice and learn, synonymous when` s of top-down sounds. You can not simply of 0 to 100 to start. This is nothing, believe me.
Hope now I am not on Powermac level to go, but people, people ....
Antwort von comix:
Was still in front of a Kamerakran, a Steadicam, a dummy with rail system, a computer equipment and furniture, etc. as synonymous for the films (ads) to buy. What do you expect? The people see the Bude einrennen and ¬ 10,000 for advertising ne you can make? Young ... laugh in advertising with cameras like the XH-A1 over the HV20 only right. Advertising is a single poor glossy society. As with the video shoot to start with low equipment and with the expectation to earn money is foolhardy, if not naive. Sorry.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Hi Asjoker
So I would advise you times, an advertising agency to visit.
Where would you like times a 3 days internship. You wish you look at the structure and conditions, and other materials like explanation. You would the general structure of an agency intressieren.
Then go home, take a petrol Office catalog on hand and look what times you paper, pens, folders, file folders, etc. ...... no cost should the rest of the round 500 - 1000 euros per year with a small business.
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But do not be discouraged, I've never been synonymous. Only took me my dream so far x thousands of euros .... and the studio is still not finished. Then sometime in the next 5 -10 years, then I have what I call my dream.
Should I up to now in terms of "commercials" synonymous times allowed himself to film / want, everything would be in principle available. ...... Until just a right Camera (16mm / 35 mm ... so something is using it for commercials currently still quite often.)
Synonymous I would like a little more film and in my work involved, simply because I think the image design of moving images like. But just because a camera has, you do not deserve equal money.
Anything you plan must be thought out long and is always profitable and eventually pay off.
I have the straight news, tools - the years after I referred to had bought and which are now in the works "Handy and nice to have" are.
Alla, I think you understand what I want more ...... Purchase ne Camera of your choice and work on your target.
Trial of thee away credit.
Be fair in your assessment of what you can specify if you want to accept orders.
Work is always in the team, the work will be better thus.
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SPARE SPARE SPARE - live your dream and always have fun s.dem what you're doing.
MfG
B. DeKid
PS: You should if people your wishes, dreams and concerns expressed, too harsh or angehn ..... Comix? Most can be reached only incomprehension, if you absolutely synonymous right with his comment.
Antwort von Asjoker:
Quote of Hans Mole [code: 1: df70879145] I want you so do not disillusion, but if you despite your spelling and pronounced weakness specialist not an incredibly creative head're simply in the practical application can shine, for heaven's sake take no credit for. .. [/ code: 1: df70879145]
Spelling mistakes huh?
Well no preference, it seems somehow s.euch something to be passed gehuscht ^ ^
The loan was with the ne little idea I had long ago
(in the thread already often mentioned) ausm head beaten hab. The only thing I prefer
(which is synonymous makes sense) is the 0% financing for 6 months because I get the time so synonymous gift.
Perhaps all this has something stormily belongs can be ...
I will not accept credit 10.000,00 ¬ and with my little cam at Coca-Cola pure burst to which a "bid" to make ^ ^
Ne, I can reassure you:) I try so good it is to calculate everything and the cost is minimized. Also I see my chances realistically
(synonymous when the different sounds but you must not set high goals?) But first the theory:
In theory
(yells at me now ^ ^) it is already possible with a fully equipped Canon HV20 perfect image / sound record
(which is theoretically almost enough for the movies). In movies and television are currently at 50% of total crap and the pay for the MASSIVE. If we now
(we are clearly on the muzzle of the action you need me to say) times a perfect video shoot
(you say yes of course it counts, or
what is BEHIND the camera), we have the same quality as on TV synonymous and possibly something much more creative / better.
I think I can already imagine what a boss of a big company would say when two Kidz (sag ma so I exaggerated) burst into his office and say: "We are synonymous for you can advertise."
But theoretically it is possible.
We will of course save anywhere, all the time slowly approach, incidentally, work for it to be synonymous finance, no debts and always and always try to learn.
But only for motivation: Theoretically we could have on television spin level.
(Except now I come forth and said even in the film advertising is needed (ie not digital) and we need extra light for this film, that would be a surprise ^ ^)
Quote of Hans Mole [code: 1: df70879145] 1 The dummy rail system must not be. Purchase a dummy with roles below it. Dekra verhökert frequently used. Fear but without wheels. [/ code: 1: df70879145]
Without roles? If we then to a meadow or huckligeren surfaces rotate jerky but more than that if the camera man with a Steadicam would SKATING? Or what do you mean? We want only incidentally times by yourself, which is fun and is cheaper:)
@ B. DeKid
Thx, I am going to keep;)
PS:
I am the midst of it all over me so much it is to inform, so do not worry I do not blindly run (also supports werd ich ja ^ ^).
But thank s.alle.
Antwort von HansMaulwurf:
Spelling errors in the causal relation to that with two S for example ...
Grammar: The OF accessories nochma 500 is "
That's it.
The fact that a lot of quality on TV is crap - sure. Synonymous If the HV20 in its price segment a really good camera is sufficient but still not enough to (typical) "TV quality" to surpass. Les thee times into the differences between a single-chip camera and a three-chip camera, the importance of chip size, the differences between HDV and DigiBeta for example in Farbsampling.
And if you already allude to advertising, as is often still limited to 35 mm rotated, as is synonymous the XH-A1 - how much I love them synonymous - boundless overwhelmed. Maybe you can so much trouble with something like the great Knoppers-Werbung "So now I have to next" achieve quality, because here was intentionally poorly worked for a real interview situation to come closer, but whether this is desirable ...
I think it `s so great that I` s still to resolve, but what you mean is a dolly, no dummy.
You have to understand that you get by such statements, synonymous, that "Wide Anglein advertising anyway hardly applies" in connection with your grand plans, it is very difficult to do your serious questions to answer.
I will give you your chances are not generally disputed, someday s.Markt `what` to reality, but not now and not so.
Small steps ....
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... if you ever allude to advertising, as is often still limited to 35 mm rotated, as is synonymous the XH-A1 - how much I love them synonymous - boundless overwhelmed ... I think Asjoker is realistic enough with "advertising" is not the TV commercial for BMW or my Haribo, but perhaps the Kurzclip for the homepage of a local craftsman. But does it really do not 35mm swivel, although experience shows that even corporate image and customer, the expected performance of the video crew sometimes be based on the size of the equipment judge: With Henkel cameras because you have already had some explaining shoulder with cameras are not. 35mm anyway not a customer pays for this level.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Asjoker:
Small steps, big goals;)
btw. for 1-2 errors in 1-2 pages, it's easy to turn a blind eye, most of them (as it is synonymous sounds stupid) always wanted.
(And I use the s with the two do not understand.)
Back to topic
Many of the differences you've mentioned are what I know and the rest is concerned, I will still inform BUT no preference what comes, I see what I see ^ ^
And if I have footage from the advertising with footage of the HV20 or the Canon XH A1, I see (mostly) not the slightest difference. 35 mm or not ... even if all the technical data are better and I still (which is quite possible) a better video (for my eye) than that achieved in the advertising ... then I trust my eyes rather than the technical data.
Apropos, 35 mm, but ultimately synonymous and synonymous digitalized when all of them rave, it is not advertising the car looks beautiful.
In short: It is possible, despite everything, what better style if synonymous pretty hard.
Quote of Hans Mole [code: 1: fb46de69c9] You must understand that you get by such statements, synonymous, that "Wide Anglein advertising anyway hardly applies" in connection with your grand plans, it is very difficult to do your serious questions to answer.
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Hmm ... actually I do not understand ^ ^.
I think clearly you need often times Anglein Wide advertising but most are still with little Angleaufgenommen Wide. Means, of course not the one entirely to much Wide Angle Cut should be vital, it is rare.
Quote of Bernd E. [code: 1: fb46de69c9] corporate image and customer, the expected performance of the video crew sometimes be based on the size of the equipment to assess [/ code: 1: fb46de69c9]
sad but true ... to prove one has to do something, even then it is often a critical view.
Why else would companies pay several hundreds of thousands of euros for a ridiculous number one sooo "professional" advertising agency? (see, for example, the character of the employment)
There's definitely enough an Oscar even a masterpiece not good if it would be of a no-name types coming.
This is really a problem to me extreme concern. It bypass, requires much more than talent in the film.
Antwort von AndyZZ:
The loan was with the ne little idea I had long ago (in the thread already often mentioned) ausm head beaten hab. The only thing I prefer (which is synonymous makes sense) is the 0% financing for 6 months because I get the time so synonymous gift.
... and still have a credit s.der jaw. Even if you maybe costs nothing! What is funding other than a loan?
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... And I with the two s do not understand ... Quite simple: There is "the" and "that" with very different meaning. But that is too extensive a topic that we discuss here should be ;-)
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Asjoker:
Good ... I just thought that the "that" only after the comma is written. But if the other is ... no preference ^ ^
Quote of AndyZZ [code: 1: bcd1db7c68] ... and still have a credit s.der jaw. Even if you maybe costs nothing! What is funding other than a loan? [/ Code: 1: bcd1db7c68]
Uach? Have now just synonymous with auto loan interest understood. Time is money .... and now if I get 6 months free without having to pay what is good ^ ^. Of course, I calculate accordingly, so as not s.Ende stupid from washing s.sich to watch but rather what it is positive.
Theoretically, I could immediately pay it synonymous So do not worry:)
Antwort von Daigoro:
and now if I get 6 months free without having to pay what is good ^ ^. Rule number one in this world:
what nobody has to offer.
Rule number two:
but all do so.
If you are part of the bar, you should pay (a bit of negotiating skill and the right dealer vorraussgesetzt) can save more than 10-15% of the "gift" credit.
Antwort von weitwinkel:
you could of course receives the hv30 buy and when needed
for 50 - to 80, - ¬ per day s.mieten ...
the h30 is synonymous with the present spontaneous shooting not equal
according to a rotating asked permission to be ...
gruß cj
Antwort von Asjoker:
@ Daigoro
Hmm ... yes I did the only synonymous rather seen as the order just for advertising their products, which in turn would not really a gift.
But s.einen discount I understand why always synonymous, nor garnet thought XD
And I hate to act and the right dealer (or dealer to act at all) I know that probably are not synonymous.
But good argument ... 'm inexperienced acting is concerned but what ma ... Guggen
Antwort von Daigoro:
But s.einen discount I understand why always synonymous, nor garnet thought XD
And I hate to act and the right dealer (or dealer to act at all) I know that probably are not synonymous.
A store can you, if you have serious buying intentions, surely the people here recommend.
Discount, there's not so easy, but if you ever calculate how much you get for the money when it's on the bank (so 3-4% interest per annum?), Is already a 'Gratisdreingabe' you can use more valuable (Filters , WW adapter, bag or something).
And action is synonymous not what time it was. Hab ne apartment recently and bought a car and I was with the love Verkaeuferleins've joined, it was really all sow - is there any Aldi cashier courteous and get the 5.50 per hour and not 6% of its nearly quarter of a million. : /
Antwort von comix:
The fact that a lot of quality on TV is crap - sure. Synonymous If the HV20 in its price segment a really good camera is sufficient but still not enough to (typical) "TV quality" to surpass. Right. I am myself HV20 users, but in the TV landscape (and by that I do not film landscape, the two pairs of shoes), it is really bad and inappropriate.
Les thee times into the differences between a single-chip camera and a three-chip camera. At the turn, I say: Och ne, once again the ollen Kamellen ...
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Hi Asjoker
So WW times to your question or your thoughts .....
So I'm working almost exclusively with 17-28 mm lenses, which are promotional photos. The WW s.der the XL1S I own is no longer accepted. WW should not be confused with Fisheye and is one of the main lenses / lens types in the Werrbung used.
A WW Shoot gives the product more size and statement.
It would be wrong to say that a WW do not need.
In general, you have but rather what the scan of example models is concerned, this is usually worked with 50 mm because the 50 mm one schoenePerspektive offers the good face and clothes for validity.
To your money with advertising ideas to earn ...... I am never lost their money, I take orders only s.die me and make fun of me something which does not require a standard applies.
Jobs Sollche do I like, and the rest may make others happy, I'm happy if the customer is satisfied and IHC allowed to be creative.
Alla what I wish you and hope you do not pay too much Lergeld, synonymous to the cost - and the nerves are more valuable than money.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von Eugen von ...:
(...) Footage from advertising (...) something like "advertising" there is simply not true. Even so will you in the commercial sector with a fully Billigcam on the nose drop, because you
always (no preference where you stand once later) with the currently available equipment, a bit too weak will be equipped.
That sounds a little like Murphy's Law, but it is so and is synonymous not only for the video equipment. Every time you have a good piece of work delivered and the customer did you re-instructed, you have to get better ... and more ... and more ... to the extent synonymous grow your investments.
A HV20 / HV30 is in this area guarantees a misjudgment. Thus you will ( "the eye with" - they say) when clients experienced ever ridiculed. When customers of the first contract awarded wants, you'll feel left behind "as a small part of my brother-synonymous ... the money I can save me soon."
Advertising is a single poor glossy society. As with the video shoot to start with low equipment and with the expectation to earn money is foolhardy, if not naive. Sorry. Right. You get what presentable without (= finished clips) now has no more leg s.Deck. You will need references. Perhaps 90% of cinema advertising is already in solid hands, the television is the same. The budgets are strong, but the fall in the minute price not even more. Local cinema advertising, you can forget synonymous. Especially the small cinemas have long not Digital Equipment, where you only "just" the hard drive can dock. There reigns 35mm, and then tell the local craftsmen times the Prices of ... what do you think why the local companies almost exclusively Diawerbung and make the decades-long practice run?
Finally, again on camera without really excellent knowledge of your camera, and what a camera ever made, you'll be very, very difficult. You'll need the basics (aperture, shutter ... because it is already happening) and the combination possibilities for creative picture composition Herbet can sleep in, as well as the classic image of the building (perspective, color, 1 / 3: 2/3-Regel, symbolism ). Without the solid foundation of knowledge is hardly synonymous creativity possible. For example, it is easy, the camera by 45 ° tilt: the reason to explain to a customer, can be quite difficult. Schaut euch mal Daimler-Benz particularly advertising in print from the 80s and early 90s on. Someone has now for the current campaign convinced a lot of work must, so you can change an image synonymous illustrate ...
For the
image design recommended to me was my master, for example, the works of: Ansel Adams, Andreas Feininger, Ernst Haas, especially for advertising and industrial photography: Albert Renger-Patzsch.
Study their pictures / recording technology and especially the image statement.
35 mm or not ... even if all the technical data are better and I still (which is quite possible) a better video (for my eye) than that achieved in the advertising ... then I trust my eyes rather than the technical data. Then you're not trained in seeing. With consumer equipment that is already due to the varying quality of Farbaufzeichnung not style. Trained seers (surprisingly, this includes many customers, especially in the motor vehicle .- and fashion industry, where the finest shades play a crucial role) and are available immediately to leave the room when you get a clip of a 1-Chip Camera imagine.
And if you make it despite all the ignorance and naïve've managed to read times as the "cameraman", 02/2008, Page 40 the article "Who has less?" Moreover, for example, as the cheap Theimer desperately try to use one or other contract to grab ... something sad and deliver the reputation of the entire Branch
