Frage von MeikelTi:
Unfortunately I Kombunation with the Canon XH A1 and Beyerdynamic MCE 72 CAM problems. The Beyerdynamic MCE 72 CAM Microphone I have had s.meiner old Sony950E served us well.
At the Canon XH A1 I have problems, however:
1. The exteren microphone holder is a joke. It does not develop, but rather a combination of Microphone and Camera!
So I have the Microphone with the holder of the Beyerdynamic decoupled.
2. Sample recordings in quiet surroundings are characterized by strong noise?
In zugeschltetem "ATT" is the noise almost disappeared, but the volume synonymous, it is rather a weak sound!
Without "ATT" it roars when listening via a connected headphones, I have another synonymous headphones tested, tape recordings, I have not yet been implemented.
Either I have recently been a very good ear or the Canon XH A1 reinforced Audio - noise and signal?
Hence my question:
How far should the audio bar to turn the Canon to a reasonable volume in a quiet environment to do so?
Other owners have the same problem?
How can I get my audio problem?
Thank you very much
Your MeikelTi
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I am very s.Anfang - but I'm not alone!
Antwort von Axel:
Basically, stereo microphones Atmo-Mikros, suitable for the fair.
1. In a quiet environment, the automatic pegelt highly diffuse and reinforce environmental noise in a large angle> Noise. As the manual recommends: Use Headphones and level manual. Man pegelt so that the
loudest noise to be expected over
the short term can be -12 dB (numerical display in the middle of the mode dial), the display represents the thickest Knubbel -12 dB, which should not exceed in split seconds exceeded. Duration noise or music must always remain just below. Man pegelt once, and then leave the controller alone, whether `s reach, so you can hear on the synonymous Headphones.
2. As you've noticed yourself, the camera body transmits drive noise. The extent to which the Micro-owned bracket the effective wegkoppelt, I do not know. I have
this 3. If you can tell yourself that your Stereomic really makes better images than the built-in, please critically compare well. The next step in filtering unwanted Tonbreikotze is a mono-directional micro. Another step is that this guide directly on the micro sound source to be directed and, if possible, regardless of camera angle to leave. Then it should be of course a Micro's XLR.
Antwort von MeikelTi:
Thanks Axel!
Man pegelt so that the loudest noise to be expected over the short term can be -12 dB (numerical display in the middle of the mode dial), the display represents the thickest Knubbel -12 dB, which should not exceed in split seconds exceeded. I've tried. In addition, with control over a connected Headphones.
But I chanced upon the Select / Set-Wheel encountered. And lo and behold, this is the volume of the connected headphones down. The delivery status is set to maximum. When down in the lower third of the sound is reasonably loud and the noise disappears (almost entirely).
How loud is your affiliated Headphones, where is your Select / Set-Wheel?
I bought this thing and am satisfied. BTW I use this decoupling:
Antwort von FritzK:
Hi, a small report on the setting.
Whether external or built-in Microphone, with very loud music is nothing more. Have a Misikveranstaltung in a tent, (Ü30 Party) filmed.
All settings have nothing, everything is overdriven. The membranes can not. The solution is: the sound with either a cable directly from the mixer or with an audio recording device from the sound mixer off and later insert. Now I have 50 minutes, very dirty sound, the picture quality is synonymous with the colorful lights and a dark tent, excellent.
MfG
Frtz
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
All settings have nothing, everything is overdriven. The membranes can not. Hi,
since then but what agrees with the camera, or you've got the microphone directly to the speaker membrane getackert. You can namely Aussteuerungsregler to turn off even a hand grenade no longer overridden. Kirmes volume can not be synonymous.
The membranes that create it. A sound, which is higher than what a normal Micro abkann, may be affixed to a German fair is not produced.
BG, Andreas
Antwort von FritzK:
Hi Andrew, have filmed for the first time. Ccamcorder on Automatic
Only the internal Microphone on Automatic. Sound attenuation at -12.
The Tonausschlag STANT always at 12 (thick dot). I thought it is ok. Think! You mean with the man. Headphones and setting it should work. What if I s.mixer a radio transmitter and the receiver connected s.Micro input?
MfG
Fritz
Antwort von Axel:
Only the internal Microphone on Automatic. Sound attenuation at -12.
The Tonausschlag STANT always at 12 (thick dot). I thought it is ok. Think! Because everything is wrong. As I wrote up next, should
manual gepegelt Music and the rash will then permanently slightly below the -12 dB mark (except for classical, may be up to the next point, -9 dB, bud). Damping as well as gain effectively restrict the dynamic range (bad). The automatic level can always subsequently adapt, many unexpected Tonereignissen pumping and generally leads to the fact that the highway and twittering of birds in just 2 kilometers away present as your own voice, if you have 5 seconds later say
Damn, the roars yes again. If one as high as possible pegelt, so that the loudest noise
is not overridden (is done, depending on the frequency, the other side of -9 dB, sound will be useless), would result in that quiet tone synonymous very quietly - and without the noise - and loud very loud sounds are recorded. So should it be. "High levels" is misleading. The maximum sound, the "top", perhaps only a brief moment in a one-minute recording, determines the level. So we actually regulates 99%
down.
Antwort von brendan:
hallo, the decoupling are all linked to the accessory shoe mounted, I see that right?
gibts ne synonymous decoupling for the camera microphone holder, because otherwise I can not make it longer lamp ..
Antwort von Kino:
Hi Brendan,
then take (I think it's about) a 25 mm tube through you have a 3 / 8''screw with the connecting threads of the spider. Cost <5 EUR.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... a 25 mm tube ... costs <5 EUR ... The same principle, but with the same spider and synonymous for non-crafters suitable:
www.thomann.de/de/rode_sm5.htm
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Kino:
Hi Brendan, I am again ...
before you start the DIY, but please read my post in this thread:
http://forum.slashcam.de/re-laufwerksgerausche-der-canon-xh-a1-vp282212.html?highlight = # 282212
Herein, I postulated that there is less on the physical separation, rather than on the respective Befestigungsort of the microphone arrives. Simply holding your Micro headphones under control near the eye of the camera attachment in the hand. If you still hear the noise, you need anyway on the accessory shoe back.
@ Bernd:
The diameter of the beam seems to me to be quite small. Do you know how hard this is?
Antwort von brendan:
jo, 44 eur Bissière are a lot of minutiae but I will of course me first microfinance growth, and then see if I still need further dämpfmaterial.
yes but on the shoe is the lamp, but often you need both, how do you do then?
bit rubbery at the micro-holder with the XH A1 so much, but this is probably not ..
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... @ Bernd: ... The diameter of the beam seems to me to be quite small. Do you know how hard this is? ... According to dealers stating 24mm on a Page and on the other 27mm. This information, as always without warranty ;-)
... 44 eur Bissière are a lot of minutiae but ... Other spiders can easily cost alone, as is the price for the SM5 still in the frame.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Axel:
... 44 eur Bissière are a lot of minutiae but ... How can minutiae because difference between useful and useless sound.
