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Frage von martha:
Juni 2007

Hello!

I have a strange problem. I'm working with Canon XM2. I filmed a wedding yesterday. 2 volumes are okay, if I insert the third band, will give me the picture only in mosaic form presented, and not a ton synonymous specified. if I have to control insert another band, work everything. I then return to the "child-care band" one of which will be superimposed on film, with which I just "tested" have (also with a film whose band no longer is indoors).

Did anyone ever a similar problem, or do you think me mad now?

Thanks for your quick help, hopefully, lg aus wien, martha

PS: please contact mailto: mailto: fotoundmakeup@yahoo.de



Antwort von martha:

Hello!

I have a strange problem. I'm working with Canon XM2. I filmed a wedding yesterday. 2 volumes are okay, if I insert the third band, will give me the picture only in mosaic form presented, and not a ton synonymous specified. if I have to control insert another band, work everything. I then return to the "child-care band" one of which will be superimposed on film, with which I just "tested" have (also with a film whose band no longer is indoors).

Did anyone ever a similar problem, or do you think me mad now?

Thanks for your quick help, hopefully, lg aus wien, martha

PS: please contact mailto: mailto: fotoundmakeup@yahoo.de



Antwort von JMitch:

That sounds just like magic or a miracle. " In which church did you filmed :-)

Seriously: If you have only a single picture that is overlaid, or an extended scene?








Antwort von martha:

Hi!

I have in sp mode (like the other 2 tapes synonymous) 13-minute filmed. all 13 minutes in mosiakform presented, and it was really only the beginning standbild apparent. Sound There's not synonymous.

I then just another band on the test checked (with which everything was in order), and since then, the mosaic of this band is superimposed on images.

However, I then tried to minute 15 in the lounge, incorporated, which works without problems, and can be synonymous to play, not a mosaic effect, and as synonymous ton. However, he begins with the sequence with 0:00:00 to count, it's as if the 13 minutes before recording does not exist!

synonymous with the pinnacle restore says that an error exists.

I personally only occurred in comic display a sign appears that I do not know: it's a square box with 6 points in it, it is behind a "1" and two previously cling "((". In the canon of bedienungsnaleitung find I do not synonymous drüber ...

HIlfeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee .... lg martha

PS: A second camera to the test I can not ....



Antwort von RK:

Hello Martha, quite simply, the tape is faulty and you have here, unfortunately Pesch.
The tape is in a defective manner, the Timcode when recording with no plays. After a certain time so after 5-10 minutes, the bug could be gone, but must not.
You can see the fallacy, eg. in the recording, by the display of the camera and watch you will then see how the Timcode, is not fluent in "which means you see the" suspended "and then the aforementioned error in the movie. The second error on the tape can be seen, or the tape. the door open to the DV tape to see the edge of the DV tape is slightly wavy, allso not smooth. This is the 100% proof that the tape is broken and the origin of the error.

Leave just a cleaning tape through it 10 seconds and start a new recording with a new tape.

mfg
Reinhold Kaufmann
Video Film Services
52353 Düren



Antwort von JMitch:

There is probably somewhere in the time code ausgerastet.

Regardless of the meter starts again from scratch if you do not seamless, ie forming of precise sequence to sequence searched. This is normal and has nothing with his problem.



Antwort von RK:

-------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------

Hello Martha, quite simply, the tape is faulty and you have here, unfortunately Pesch.
The tape is in a defective manner, the Timcode when recording with no plays. After a certain time so after 5-10 minutes, the bug could be gone, but must not.
You can see the fallacy, eg. in the recording, by the display of the camera and watch you will then see how the Timcode, is not fluent in "which means you see the" suspended "and then the aforementioned error in the movie. The second error on the tape can be seen, or the tape. the door open to the DV tape to see the edge of the DV tape is slightly wavy, allso not smooth. This is the 100% proof that the tape is broken and the origin of the error.

Leave just a cleaning tape through it 10 seconds and start a new recording with a new tape.

mfg
Reinhold Kaufmann
Video Film Services
52353 Düren



Antwort von hansreinhard:

hi martha,

the band is either incorrect or has been incorrectly threaded in your receptive yesterday. In all cases, the absorption in the bucket.
what your "ghosting" concerns, which should now be gone, before you insert your "broken" bands times the camera off briefly, it probably comes from the visual memory, which is usually tiny error can compensate bild.

gruß, hans



Antwort von Volbe:

Hello!
I had synonymous' times ... the exact Gleiche.Habe days with cleaning tapes' rumgetütert ..... without success.
The error was easy to resolve but with XM the 1st suspect, however, that the XM Felerbehebung in just 2 or similar funktionirt.

The mistake: I accidentally had the "Frame Switch" touches and
the information in the frame Halbstellung between normal and transported.
After resetting to a fixed frame and the switch in the frame-position was the haunt is gone and will never again aufgetraten.
If the XM1 reproducible.

Schöne Grüße jürgen



Antwort von martha:

"Volbe" wrote:
Hello!
I had synonymous' times ... the exact Gleiche.Habe days with cleaning tapes' rumgetütert ..... without success.
The error was easy to resolve but with XM the 1st suspect, however, that the XM Felerbehebung in just 2 or similar funktionirt.

The mistake: I accidentally had the "Frame Switch" touches and
the information in the frame Halbstellung between normal and transported.
After resetting to a fixed frame and the switch in the frame-position was the haunt is gone and will never again aufgetraten.
If the XM1 reproducible.

Schöne Grüße jürgen


HI! Well, yes because the seeds of hope - if you tell me what the XM1 with the frame switch is, I would have been happy! lg aus wien



Antwort von Volbe:

Hello!
The XM1 turn with the 'MOVIE MODE switch in the
Motion picture mode (lt.Manual).
The full screen (FRAME) is characterized with full 1.5 Resolutionauf and is particularly lt.Hanbuch for still optimal.
In normal condition (switch to the left) is in the Camera
norm on Halbbildmodus. (all info from the Hb).
Shortly after the release of the XM1 broke a discussion of whether this mode FRAME finally the long awaited movie look might generate. The
Waves were high lately ... 'is not much escaped.
For Stanbilder (who does something?) Is actually better in the movie mode?
I have no difference-to-detect random Jerkiness
könnten.Conclusion: The film that I know use all the NORMAL mode.
To my knowledge, this MOVIE MODE switch in the receive XM2
geblieben.Hoffentlich you find him and test him schal fully to the left ...
Your problem should be resolved.

Schöne Grüße jürgen



Antwort von Meggs:

"Volbe" wrote:

To my knowledge, this MOVIE MODE switch in the receive XM2
geblieben.Hoffentlich you find him and test him schal fully to the left ...
Your problem should be resolved.

The XM2 has no switch, it changes the menu on the frame mode.








Antwort von Volbe:

Hello!

Shame .....
Maybe you've accidentally so in the menu on "FRAME" by then
would presumably one in normal mode recorded tape is not synonymous
correctly.
If the result does not do it 'times a' Camera RESET "
(usually a small buttons, only with a sharp object
operated kann.Damit the camera to their factory settings
provided).
Look then 'times for safety's sake to the menu, if the run mode is enabled.
Then I would with a new tape a short test, watch, rewind and re-Testclip on denersten film set. Maybe it is everything ok?

Schöne Grüße jürgen



Antwort von r.p.television:

I would say the tape was not properly threaded and the camcorder is on a wrong track position is recorded, but now the playback is no longer reproducible. That means your camcorder, the "Wrong Track Location of course no longer.
The Studio, you can usually forget.
Your ghost image comes from the internal image memory to the camcorder in the case of a distorted image again shows partially disrupted synonymous.

I unfortunately synonymous already happening, both with Sony professional camcorders as synonymous Semi Canons.



Antwort von Markus:

"martha" wrote:
2 volumes are okay, if I insert the third band, will give me the picture only in mosaic form shown ...

Perhaps you have with the cleaning cartridge and happiness it brings something.

Cross-reference:
Kaputter Film - brauche dringend Hilfe!

"martha" wrote:
Kaputter Film - brauche dringend Hilfe!

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Antwort von camtv:

Well that comes when one thinks of it with amateur equipment (Canon XM 2) and no name abgenudelten tapes to be able to make films. ;-)

Tip: Finger away of cleaning cartridges! You thee dwells only the head is broken!

Nothing to do more with the tape!

In order to rescue ne company looking for a decent MAZ (DVCAM or DVCPRO), or on the television and go thy confidence let ne copy!

DV Cams people are not really built for Playback .... of times you let your dealer what about internal header synchronization tell!



Antwort von Markus:

"camtv" wrote:
Tip: Finger away of cleaning cartridges! You thee dwells only the head is broken!

That makes everyone else seem to experience. Previously I would have cleaning cartridges with their thick Nassreinigungsband dared not synonymous, but this picture has now changed ...

Cross-reference:
And what makes a "Cleaning Tape", except ...



Antwort von camtv:

Wet with good Alc is synonymous ok.

But the current cleaning tapes "sand" the head off.

As can be synonymous, I say: Take ne file and make your head clean! lol



Antwort von camtv:

@ Markus

your cross-reference with the Panasonic tapes I've read. I'll give you, or your friend right.

But please head cleaning only cleaned with alcohol and lint cotton swab (source: Panasonic and SWR and I, as Engineer)

LG René



Antwort von Markus:

Hmmm, I would have known that there is an identical issue of Martha, which is directed s.Genies, then I would have responded as yet. ;-))) Well, now both are always discussions here united.

"camtv" wrote:
But please head cleaning only cleaned with alcohol and lint cotton swab (source: Panasonic and SWR and I, as Engineer)]

As I said, I thought the sooner synonymous (see my earlier posts in this forum), but there are mixed opinions and experiences of users is now well apart.



Antwort von camtv:

@ markus

that is why there are forums yes - because the opinions diverge.

I did stop my experience in 25 years of audio engineering (24 and 48 track analog) and my time in the ZDF Ü dare appropriated (I still synonymous with 1 "video worked).

Some questions here on the forum are always a bit strange ..... because all want to shoot HD, but at the light, they have problems of sound-not to mention.

Passt somehow not everything --








Antwort von camtv:

Da hab ich doch ne s.Set prefer abgenudelte Betacam or Nv DX 1 - but full of light and sound NEN Assi ...;-)



Antwort von Markus:

Good, then I concretise times: modern dry cleaning cartridges when I DVCAM - DV - Digital8 and Hi8 drive. A cleaning using isopropyl alcohol and cotton swabs and a suck of the drives along with video heads is sometimes synonymous in it, depending on the requirements and possibly error occurred picture.

25 years ago there were only Nassreinigungsschleifkassetten and the absence of alternatives it was generally tended to manual cleaning.



Antwort von camtv:

@ Markus

True .... but hopefully you take the cleaned Isopropanol 70 %?????

But the problem here in the thread has been treated, is likely a problem with the tape ...... and because, if still not too much has been played only a "big" Maz (without embedded audio and TC) help ..... I'm talking here vonn DVC Pro 50 ÓÄ ......

Incidentally Tip: Iso Prop of "contact chemistry" is even of Panasonic Broadcast only approved (which may not synonymous Cleaning Tapes!) .... And you get the side effect synonymous slobber from the living room table after the party away! ;-))))))))

LG René



Antwort von Stefan:

> If you take .... but hopefully the cleaned Isopropanol 70 %?????

Naja. 70% isopropanol means ... 30% water. Thus, I would not maltreat my Camera

Good luck
The thick Stefan



Antwort von Markus:

I'll just Isoprop in pa quality. There is no significant amount of water (or what is synonymous) more of it. - For something must be scientific training so good. ;-)




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