Hello, I need time a sound recording in the direction of information by computer.
To record all kinds gibts ja Programs. Sometimes even as freeware. I got here a half dozen of them on the plate. Even professional versions.
But all this is to me far too complicated and cluttered. I just do not feel like more, me through many different user interfaces, menus and phonebook-thick manuals to torture. Thousands of possible tracks, special effects and different levels ..... nonsense! I get not even a level at Micro inserted even though I have any "projects" re-created, one hundred and runtergeschoben knob up and set ticked away again and did. Waste! Extremely annoying to me and takes the fun s.der thing!
My idea is a hardware interface in the form of an old cassette recorder from the seventies. Capture key, pre-and rewind, play ..... done! This s.Gerät a regulator for the input level (which for me then on the screen can be displayed). The whole thing as a USB device (perhaps in the form of mixing) with one, for this purpose is certainly not very sophisticated software.
Is so what?
Greetings from the irritated Jens
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
Audacity. Is freeware and not sooo complicated. That, what you describe, there is not. Unless you do a voice ;-) BG Andreas
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
Such devices are available but synonymous, not only with the condition that the design s.70er years tapedecks is based. They are called digital recording consoles, just a really simple it is not. Finally, the program must still absorb. And so do you have a few more buttons that you do not understand.
How would it ensure that: Take a little time and may be synonymous the manual on hand. It can not hurt, it's easy to try to understand. Know enough musicians that are a home studio setup, but the simplest things can not get, such as record IMMEDIATELY, and not only by trial and error and wild herumgeklicke in 5 Einstellfenstern somehow durchmogeln on the outcome, although the musicians have long home traveled.
Antwort von Pillermännchen:
Thanks for your answers. I think I found something what I would have a closer look
"Surreptitious Michel" wrote:
How would it ensure that: Take a little time and may be synonymous the manual on hand. It can not hurt, it's easy to try to understand.
No! I take me no time! Not the crude thoughts of a programmer or program designer track. This is my life too precious. Synonymous nothing would help, because the development of such a Mister synonymous nor promotes. This is the half-life of such programs is far below the time that I must work in order to understand and intuitive to use. And the next time everything is different. Since no knowledge is built up on!
The computer is my work easier and not more difficult. The ergonomics and usability as the synonymous my FX1 in relation to my old Grundig VS150 is a disaster. Had the Sony Picture Not better, they would still at the dealer.
Feasible are such things easily. The findings of this gabs already a hundred years ago But as long as these ergonomics and programming garbage and even bought for schick held, nothing will change.
Jens
Antwort von snowy:
A Usability - objectors. With you have the most diver Usability - Testing - Agencies Truest pleasure ... Sorry, but progress is progress. And upon close examination of today's design works better as a design from the 70s. At the very least can only use all the functions correctly. You've apparently made the mistake and are XX years ago with the "fellow" has stopped. Now it is catching up, it's no different. The "survival" in our society is for you otherwise become a serious problem ....
Antwort von Pillermännchen:
Mistake ...!
Who good layout for a characteristic of backwardness holds, has already made servant of industry.
Also for you the day will come, you s.dem cold sitting in the apartment, because you're no longer able to come here, you s.vollprogrammierbaren room thermostat to the temperature increase durchzuklicken. But yes you probably have a thumb nail synonymous large UMTS mobile phone, with which you are not more clever phone, but send a bad pictures or listen to MP3.
...... if you can find the button.
Antwort von snowy:
Piller @ male
I will give you absolutely right!
... and there is no improvement in sight! Unfortunately!
Antwort von Pillermännchen:
I think so.
One must only consistent with the Purchase (synonymous to the toaster or coffee machine) at eighth and so what if the need arises the Manufacturer Email compiled mensch ******. The build and program only, what then is bought synonymous.
@ Andreas The Audacity looks with ever not bad. Will I s.Wochenende times closer look.
Antwort von Axel:
"Piller males" wrote:
Also for you the day will come, you s.dem cold sitting in the apartment, because you're no longer able to come here, you s.vollprogrammierbaren room thermostat to the temperature increase durchzuklicken.
Never energy of the classes include? Moreover, I was recently taught. An electronic thermostat of Class "A" to save a 10-year-old Class "D" up to 50% of heat energy, compared to a manual system up to 80%.
It prevents you incidentally synonymous None, you old hardware to buy. My old Uher Report (XLR, 19 cm / s) went on ebay for 120 ¬ out. A four-track Revox tape machine with 38 cm / s, in their time barely affordable, stands for sale in & around the corner for 150 ¬ in the window. True: It excites me still. True synonymous: Do I really do not.
"Piller males" wrote:
But yes you probably have a thumb nail synonymous large UMTS mobile phone, with which you are not more clever phone, but send a bad pictures or listen to MP3.
This must be every man for himself to decide. I have a simple mobile phone with well-shaped buttons. There has been synonymous as a CameraLink appendage, and it was already synonymous to use, while price comparison in electrical shops. Otherwise, I am glad that the dial past.
Antwort von Pillermännchen:
"Axel" wrote:
Never energy of the classes include? Moreover, I was recently taught. An electronic thermostat of Class "A" to save a 10-year-old Class "D" up to 50% of heat energy, compared to a manual system up to 80%.
Had the one who has taught you, by chance, which is synonymous in the program? :)
Bad example, I am from this area and make equal to a counter-statement on my practice:
I maintain that such thermostats 30th .. 50% more energy is consumed than is necessary, because no one is in a position, the clever things to program. Since then the level is raised so long until it is over "warm" is. Lowering night? Who controls as to whether the light is really out if it closes the fridge?
Mir is already happening, I came back from the break and am in the apartment for almost 30 ° heated experimentation. More created the heating system does not. Here I had before leaving the electronic wonders thermostat to "cut" made. I thought anyway. For the money I would have lost probably half a year to heat can.
Again: The problem is not the functions. The problem is the user interface!
And since I do not tell me synonymous.
Jens ....
... the other day on eBay 3 Siemens C10D shot is so synonymous in the future he can make calls without having to learn.
Antwort von Axel:
"Piller males" wrote:
Had the one who has taught you, by chance, which is synonymous in the program? :) ... And since I do not tell me synonymous.
LoL! True, he had the chance. I've not made synonymous, because I prefer a sweater dress as my nose out (while I the other, a standby fan unteachable am, I can not simply wait 20 seconds before anything is concerned). You're right, a device must operate. But if you would like more features, it is hardly different than with more knobs. Then it is just practice.
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
"Piller males" wrote:
"Surreptitious Michel" wrote:
(...) Take a little time
No! I take me no time (...) This is my life too precious.
Yes tell me, how are you out? This is a very harsh verdict and so beautiful in the mouth of all, including me, have written here and took the time to make you want to help ... Since I can only say "see, where you help herkriegst." Would not surprise me if two or three approaches you remain so - of those who have read the DAS and immediately "next" clicked ... Kopfschüttelnd, Andreas
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
I can already understand that you're in front of the audio programs is sitting before a loud and ignorance do not know where you should start.
BUT: First, there is a very simple program, like Audacity. Since I am of synonymous expected that this program is long on your plate, because you so used of various freeware programs have spoken to you already have.
Other hand, audio programs like Logic, for more professional applications and thought because the programmers have already s.den requirements of engineers oriented. ProTools, Logic, Nuendo, Cubase, etc., are really very complex, but can these programs in his own studio and embed a midi Network to create and manage. You can use this program to its own ways of working to adapt what you do not say of all the programs can be. I have a time synonymous needed until I was behind the concept of logic was 4 am (still without a really good track automation). But the program is actually "logical" when it does hit.
Whoever it may be reduced and intuitive, yet multiple, accurate and professional wants to work, I put my favorite program Ableton Live to the heart (most times the demo). Those who simply want a recording button, for which there is under the Windows Sound Recorder. In the latter case you should but you do not have the poor complain Controls.
If you are not all that excited, I recommend the purchase of an audio workstation. This is a kind of computer that is ONLY for this purpose is designed.
Antwort von Pillermännchen:
@ Andreas Why now you feel attacked, I am not clear. It was not my intention, against any of the previous posters to front.
Schleich @ Michel Audacity knew I had not, because I only recently started to employ with this matter (should be). And since I have to say that the ease of use since the seventies has been bitter. Nothing speaks to a digital recording. The results are really great. But I would like as a user of the processes just do not remember. That, and not s.der number of features, I do the quality of a program established. And the only way to get synonymous as a result of occasional users.
I have Cubase synonymous. Lag in a hardware. But good for simple recording as much as Schumacher Ferrari to drive to Aldi for the purpose of weekly shopping.
For my recordings, I actually do little more than the Windows Sound Recorder. If now the standard design longer than 60 seconds would be (I know how to work around that can, however, is synonymous to an unnecessary Fummelei!) And an input level control, things would be perfect for me. Then only two drop-down menus for the input source and the location and there you go. And everything on one window, so the controller does not suddenly disappear when the mouse s.Rekorder with herumfummelt. Is this really not?
Your "Ableton" I see myself at times, thank you
Jens
Antwort von DWUA:
Jens,
You certainly do not want to just plug Microphone and ready? There are children's karaoke game programs. You want an "ergonomic design" surface? Soundtrack Pro has a: With rotary knobs, sliders for all sorts of clear equipped. What you need, you use, everything else is not. Easy to use and still a program that is in the lower middle class can be located. Quite simply been already mentioned above.
ps To your theme of "time wasting" your life. Please do not compare with since the 70s!
It was (and still is) using mechanical Counter a particular job and sought only by time-consuming forward and rewind the tapes found. A "lift" for the tonearm / turntable Tonkopf the LP has been useful to a certain place to find.
So please, the past is not in retrospect transfigure. And above all, the current technology does not verteufeln. It is meant to make life easier. Your momentary burnout goes so quickly vorrüber, as it come ... Furthermore, it is that both the life expectancy, as synonymous leisure factor has tremendously increased. Where is your problem?
;)))
Antwort von Daigoro:
"Piller males" wrote:
Nothing speaks to a digital recording. The results are really great. But I would like as a user of the processes just do not remember. That, and not s.der number of features, I do the quality of a program established. And the only way to get synonymous as a result of occasional users.
Dafuer had the whole stuff from the 70s synonymous only very limited features. And was in the comparatively more awkward to handle. Alone onto the tape with the audio equipment and the film in the projector to get - a gefrickel before the Lord. (ok, I'm not really that old, I've had in the whole "media lab" noticed our school: D). Mit'm could halt phone calls - there enough dial perfect. Remember phone numbers? yes .. bulletin board.
Today, there's something for the whole Magix halt (or similar) range of "end user" software (and if garnicht helps NEN Mac - with which you can then nix while working, but with the whole lot of style: P). If you do not have time / want somewhere to incorporate the garnicht so evil. Audacity is already complicated.
Antwort von beiti:
I myself am often out-and hergerissen between the need for a logical, intuitive serve without unnecessary pitfalls one hand, and the need for effective control and a deeper understanding of the technical operations other. It is not just to me but synonymous to people in my neighborhood, the less patience and experience with equipment and programs. My previous record: the things that are constantly used, may be a bit more training and require one or the other inconsistency rates (which could be experienced users can bypass). Other hand, programs that you only need to s.and, or the choice of a wide s.Leuten must be used, mature and intuitive (without further interference for experienced users to stop).
Especially in the PC area, however the problem that so many possible combinations has. For example, for a sound recording takes one hand, the A-and outputs of the soundcard, but the recording software. Ideally, everything, including selection of inputs, from the sound control program, it will be clearly. Often works but the cooperation of these components are not, so that you begin in the Control Panel select the correct input and disqualify must be because one little else to level or get control over - what a Windows-DAU in life itself is not. If a PC wants to use effectively, time must be with the insider information to collect, since there is no way turn over - especially if you or a professional freeware software whose developers do not remember that they are of beginners or people without any induction will be used.
Antwort von Pillermännchen:
"Daigoro" wrote:
And was in the comparatively more awkward to handle.
Call me a device which is easier for a sound recording to use is, as a thirty years old cassette recorder functions with the "Recording", "Play," "Stop," "preliminary," "rewind"
I do not synonymous, how old you are and if you still know, but in a cassette tape that was already there and no longer had to be threaded. It was then that the invention s.der thing.
For Mac and his allegedly "intuitive" handling sag ich lieber nix. Otherwise, go right from here.
Antwort von Daigoro:
"Piller males" wrote:
Call me a device which is easier for a sound recording to use is, as a thirty years old cassette recorder functions with the "Recording", "Play," "Stop," "preliminary," "rewind"
A digital voice recorder with the same 5 buttons? S.so there's about 20 euros. Does not even cassettes.
Antwort von Pillermännchen:
Prima, then you have certainly synonymous a link to a device, with which I am using USB and external Micro on the hard drive can hold.
What would be your suggestion?
Antwort von DWUA:
jens,
Ushi, but without USB support www.oldradioworld.de
;)
Antwort von Daigoro:
"Piller males" wrote:
Prima, then you have certainly synonymous a link to a device, with which I am using USB and external Micro on the hard drive can hold.
What would be your suggestion?
What do you do with that constantly USB? If you have a sound card in a PC and an associated Microphone hast, hast thou been all about analog sound into digital signals converted.
If you are looking for a simple Bedienoberflaeche, try this: http://download.chip.eu/de/All-Sound-Recorder-XP-2.30_101753.html
Alternatively it here: http://www.freewarefiles.com/program_6_229_21011.html
If that does not work, I looked out the program yet, which I use, and you can screw down so that it looks like the Windows Sound Recorder looks like .. namen hab ich grad is not in the head.
Antwort von Pillermännchen:
Thanks guys so much but I will not. S.WE but I will try everything.
A beautiful Likewise you
Jens
Antwort von volki:
Jens,
the long story short deadline:
gib mal in Google "ZOOM H4" one.
or here http://www.thomann.de/de/zoom_h4.htm
because you have everything in one hand, Microphone, you must still hold myself (!)
You must distinguish between sound recording, (a la cassette recorder) and sound editing.
comparable with video record, with camera, and video editing, ie, from the recordings to make a movie.
volki
Antwort von Pillermännchen:
Hello Volki,
gugeln is always good. Would you synonymous, you're pushed to the:
I got the thing for a long time. This can be really good record if: You have long fingernails and the weather is not cold You know the manual from memory You put your reading glasses are searched.
Simply s.dem thing is nothing, the program routine is abstruse.
I had already seriously considered the device to peel and into a new cabinet stuck. With clever buttons and switches and a readable display. The technique and the recording quality is really great.
Antwort von volki:
Na Yes
In the fall, but you seem the better knowledge of the service to be what you think of everything so as you give
päääääähh, kusch in the corner
volki
Antwort von Pillermännchen:
No problem, Volki,
The economy needs people like you.
Antwort von DWUA:
@ Volki
Jens has been quite what the handling is concerned. Such things were then synonymous for Clientele of S.4-year-old girl thought. Nowadays do this without loss of quality in the chewing gum Mini encountered automatic recorder.
Facit: Apple had already had prepared. Only a large button on the mouse. Does an elephant does not even afraid to have it more.
: /)
Antwort von Pillermännchen:
I have just read in another forum the tip with the program "Audio Tools" at:
