| Ikegami ITC-735 - some questions!
Question of PaoloCastello:
April 2007
Hello Dear Forum!
I have from the estate of a television studio an Ikegami ITC-735 can purchase. Have now the Camera a few questions.
1) Calibration of the tubes:
It is - as perhaps some already know - a camera tube, ie: The tubes must have (if any event) in front of a rotary recalibrated in order to avoid color bleeding. Unfortunately, at the Camera to calibrate the grid no longer exists - Someone knows another way to calibrate the tubes, or is there somewhere in the network a print template for a suitable grid or someone can send me a scan?
2) questions about the recording:
2.1 Connections s.der Camera:
The Camera has a Connections CCU / VTR port, a video - Out and a monitor-out port, and a Genlock In. Since I am with only one camera and worked synonymous not in possession of a CCU, I will probably the video - Out use to me or using my soldering iron, the cores of the composite CCU / VTR port abkneifen - Someone may know the pinout of the CCU / VTR port?
2.2 Recording options:
Previously, you probably with U-Matic recorded (the camera has no built-known recording part!), Meanwhile, I would be happy with DVCAM recording (recording device is located somewhere around here), I must note something, or is the recording, despite the oversized recorder problems ?
2.3 Wide-Angle Lenses:
As my financial budget as a student, unfortunately, somewhat limited, but I for my studies (Film Studies) demanding films MUST (and will), do I need in addition to the standard object (which was already in the process) is still a wide-angle lens (I like to turn in tight spaces ). Since the acquisition of such a financial my belongings and Good goes far beyond would, I wanted quite nice and ask nicely if there is someone there, such a lens suitable for Ikegami (is probably compatible with the superior camera League of Sony, Panasonic and JVC) for a loan as a weekend could provide - with mention of names in the credits or preload no problem! The target audience of the films is somewhat synonymous Bigger and especially in the arts sector, offering ...
Incidentally, I come from 59427 Unna, should be synonymous as far as possible from the vicinity, if possible.
2.4 "FILM LOOK"
As always the question of the "film look" is, I am by these many issues synonymous with the theme of the half and full-screen "problem" came.
Fortunately, the Ikegami yes schonmal a super depth blur to objects well separated from the background to be able to - thanks to the large Lenses and the large reception area of a tube.
What I "bother" are extremely vague colors, while the detail is so extremely pronounced.
I have been in the HDTV sector rotated and must admit that I am in the area of the tube just before the cameras to an absolute novelty is - better said: I have no idea.
Who can give me about the admission procedure and the technique of tube cameras more accurate to say something? Who knows this and thus knows maybe a few tricks and tips especially for Ikegami ITC-735?
Have synonymous ICQ for a better conversation management, if available.
Thank you in advance in advance!
Reply PowerMac:
I would be away. The thing is old and has not bad quality.
Reply Blackeagle123:
A long but fascinating question. Would be great if the discussion here it could lead, because it is synonymous me very interested in how a camera works tube (have never seen something of a tube camera will immediately look at wikipedia look!)
Worthwhile to read ;-) Even though I am sorry you can not help ...
Many greetings,
Constantin
Reply Blackeagle123:
http://www.bet.de/lexikon/begriffe/Roehrenkamera.htm
Professional tube cameras work with a prism, the incident light into three color decomposed. Each of the three intake pipes scans the projected picture with the help of an electron from. These effects occur as Blooming Comet Tail, Nachzieheffekt and baking on. The electromagnetic deflection in the recording tubes or their suspension leads to problems such as grid and cover mikrofonieren. The three color channels of the camera, either in a component signal, or into a CVBS signal.
Sounds not so great. Now, you know, where the Nachzieheffekte come. On the above link you will get more synonymous information about each technical terms!
A tip when shooting: Eighth exactly to how you have the keys Aperture and movies directly into the sun, to avoid burning. Overexpose too easy, which is a cheap digital camera does nothing, the tube camera (seemingly) even at low aperture to wide open after some time break. (According to what I have read, maybe talk on the other hand, experience)
Many greetings,
Constantin
Reply etch:
I would be away. The thing is old and has not bad quality.
Have you ever with such a camera rotated?
Reply PaoloCastello:
Hello!
The technique that you've mentioned, I already know. With soft colors "I actually felt rather the Color performanceund not the sharpness! The sharpness of the camera is 1A!
In the film, I would even Ikegami HDTV prefer a modern, because the HDTVs we use s.der Academy, a much too small sensor and thus have not really Schärfenuntiefe style is beautiful. By contrast, Ikegami a dream because of the great tubes!
The Nachzieheffekt for my needs is not of importance - I shoot with a fixed camera settings without pans! There is therefore no Nachzieheffekte on.
The baking process is also known to me. Man with the Camera may not be directly in sunlight or halogen light filming - but I tend to turn Lowlight no backlighting and general situations, but with artificial light and guidance Aufhelllicht.
Comment of the PowerMac I find superfluous and not just professionally competent. A camera tube, in contrast to the ever-shrinking digital technology, some charming advantages to offer, despite the aforementioned drawbacks.
It was me in the technology field to include more technology and not about the technique of tube cameras in general.
Especially in the field of art is not everything old is = scrap. Consider that the film cameras, which expose on film, also very old, if the aesthetics of celluloid, however, want to use, always against a digital camera yet so great are preferable.
Who, for example in a retro look to film wants rather to prejudge synonymous tube camera with a lot of depth of field margin, instead of a MiniDV or DVCAM, which depict everything sharp.
Where is the sense of the artistic aspect, PowerMac?
Reply PowerMac:
It was about technology, not about art. You want to talk about art? There.
Reply Wolfpeter-Hans-Dieter:
So I'm away for synonymous! Then just have to say in what is the garbage that I can bring them to me.
Reply etch:
The target audience of the films is somewhat synonymous Bigger and especially in the arts sector, offering ...
Thought that it would become clear ...
Reply PaoloCastello:
So I'm away for synonymous! Then just have to say in what is the garbage that I can bring them to me.
What then? What willste because that then? Poor poor quality films in turn? : D
Reply Wolfpeter-Hans-Dieter:
Hohoho very funny! :-) The Qaulität is perhaps not so great, but then I've pretty NEN Retro Look! And moreover, I always rotating only good things! :-)
Reply PaoloCastello:
I only cited PowerMac:)
Eben retro look that I wanted to have!
The times achieved with digital cameras ... a lot more expensive ...
Reply Wolfpeter-Hans-Dieter:
Yes was not meant bad if you did that now. Silly question: what distinguishes the Aparatur actually occur? And you can not synonymous to me arrange such a war, or where I sowas her and how much it cost?
Reply etch:
Yes was not meant bad if you did that now. Silly question: what distinguishes the Aparatur actually occur? And you can not synonymous to me arrange such a war, or where I sowas her and how much it cost?
Ask PowerMac, which has, I believe, already Riefenstahl advice :-)
Reply Jürgen F.:
Hello Paolo,
tube with the cameras is such a problem. You can download the individual tubes only "warm" Syndicate. So only 10-20 min. run.
(I do not know if I can that still - is already so long ago)
There was in the late 80s a chart "grid" 14 / 9, it means that I have here are, on the other is a Graukeil. Size 35cm x 24 cm on board. Bosch has had times of 350th - DM tasted, I could submit it as new for 50, - ¬. Synonymous, but you can come here and bring a scanner and scan it ... Coffee's free.
The lens mount at Ikegami was a special. So, your quest for a "B4 mount" (Sony, Pana ect ..) would be in vain. You need to definitely take a Ikegami connection.
True, at that time was on cable on U-Matic or 1 "VTR portably recorded. But a pure CVBS signal. As you have a DV-Cam unit wants, and with what quality, one must try.
Everything else on the camera tube has more or less answered in the forum.
Grüße Jürgen F
Reply etch:
Thank you, Jürgen. But why 50 ¬?
Reply WINner:
Ask PowerMac, which has, I believe, already Riefenstahl advice :-)
If one reads his contributions, we must assume that he did not even know.
But he is always here for the more cheerful contributions jurisdiction.
And that makes it quite neatly.
Reply PowerMac:
Yes. I'm terribly formed.
Reply Pianist:
Silly question: what distinguishes the Aparatur actually occur?
Not at all. This is a simple camera, as was customary at that time. Since coming back and ran a cable then you draw on what you want. The ITC-735 was also a real milestone in the camera industry, you can certainly say so.
When the lens mount, I am just not so sure, but under the Ursprungsfrager www.ecctv.de can call someone who knows quite sure.
Matthias
Reply Hollinizer:
Yes. I'm terribly formed.
Well, too bad it's not synonymous. Rather, "awful" :-)
Reply PaoloCastello:
Not at all. This is a simple camera, as was customary at that time. Since coming back and ran a cable then you draw on what you want. The ITC-735 was also a real milestone in the camera industry, you can certainly say so.
When the lens mount, I am just not so sure, but under the Ursprungsfrager www.ecctv.de can call someone who knows quite sure.
Matthias
Thank you!
Synonymous You notice that the camera quality is good - heavy, unwieldy and almost unkaputtbar:) The depth of focus is a dream and the Picture synonymous aesthetics can no wish left - what others with expensive plugins try style (film look) I get the same here with, for the same price and in real.
So, what should s.der Camera so bad? :)
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