Does it make in the coming era of high definition ever make sense to get an SD zuzulegen?

Is SD in HD at all times?

No..

Deti

of: B. DeKid:
An XL2 to the filming of bathing family members to use, I do not for good!

of: B. DeKid:
A starter, I would never wish for example XL2 recommend it especially if the Cam synonymous private use.

of: B. DeKid: An aspiring film student or videographer is more, because "car mode" but then filming it better with newer cams.

of: domain:
It is important you see above more documentary or more in Rosamunde Pilcher will be kept on.

of: displayed:
The other hook HD thing is that the AVCHD cams still not really mature.

of: charletto:
If you but your films for you as synonymous for any events or other occasions when you have these films on DVD will have to burn, as this is no BD player, then you can be a good buy SD Cam

of: charletto:
or alternatively, ne Cam SonyFX like 1 or just ne JVC 110 or 111, with which you both



Reply Meggs:



He considered whether he buys the XL2. The XL2 has a 16:9 chip and delivers excellent quality in 16:9 SD.

The XL2 is an outstanding professional with many features and excellent picture. If you have a video in SD wants to produce, the XL2 in its price segment hardly be topped. If you have a video produced in HD or will be, it is unusable.

For the one SD for a long time makes sense. For the other SD is now completely out.

I make videos of music and theater events on DVD's in the small to medium quantities sold. Until now I had never seen a contract or a request in HD. I make about 10-15 projects per year.



Reply Alex_HH:

Hello again,

So as prospective film student, I would be but for an SD-Cam decide. Especially if you currently have a little "experiment", I think it would be easier because of the post, etc. in order to try yet.

I think the majority of productions for television are currently still synonymous with SD rotated.

I would now not yet in the relatively new HD technology to invest, but just wait for the direction in which you ultimately want. In the SD area, you can now synonymous certainly some "bargain", since many now slowly changing to HD.

I think it is synonymous with shooting in SD in the next 4-5 years have not laughed. Be it for TV stations still at film festivals, etc.

On the content that counts!



Reply deti:


Excuse the Reality Check: With SD you can today in the professional field no longer points.

The content of argument is what idealists - the technical quality is now almost exclusively decisive for the acceptance. You can now deliver the largest scrap metal, as long as he is top quality. This is synonymous much cheaper, because the content will cost money. That is, at least for the broadcasters so. As for her wedding videos, is another matter ;-)

Deti



Reply Alex_HH:

So the camera people I know, turn to public service television is still in SD. Of course on DigiBeta, but not HD.

And here is synonymous to Resolutionbzw. the number of rows, but not the only criterion for broadcasting capability.

It is even so far that on television youtube movies in normal broadcasts are presented.

Clearly the material must be OK, but the camera was filmed with the is only ONE factor.



Reply Bernd E.:


In the professional field plays SD still quite a small role, but I would be synonymous with buying a camera today at HD set. After all you can with these cameras in SD just needs to really deliver HD over to ask - and whether through conversion in the NLE.



Reply Bernd E.:


These cameras are HD cameras present, so that you do not sacrifice quality s.der have feared. Many of the HD cameras can either record in SD (but usually does not make sense) or their internal HD recording and convert SD signal as a calculator on s.den play.



Reply deti:

Of course it would be very uneconomical today all existing SD equipment away. But when it comes to new acquisitions or new productions, then HD is a big issue - at least for the Öffis.
If the thread starter, I have understood correctly, is it a new acquisition.

Deti



Reply Alex_HH:

Yes, it's probably a new acquisition. However, a new acquisition for an aspiring film students and so I would just stop with an SD cam experiment and see what HD system in the semi-professional area prevails. Apart from the fact that he currently still relatively expensive Calculator for the post required.

My First Cam, I would prefer something "cheaper" option, because I certainly after no more than 1-2 years was "fabulous" wanted to have, and then perhaps have more insight. The Shooting learned synonymous safely on the SDCam.



Reply schlappen:

The XL2 and DVX100 are of course in many tests against.
The majority of the test but rather tended to DVX100. What makes your opinion, because the XL2 the DVX superior?

Then on Alex: Postprocessing simpler? Because SD less computing power is needed, or why exactly easy?

And the TV stations are currently upgrading all. Even small regional offices will be equipped with HD. So, in so far suspended the next no more. Only through the letter box before you notice the shift may not be so aware.

For the content, I must unfortunately synonymous deti in parts right. If it is for the mainstream market wants, naturally enough content alone by far not enough. That is not synonymous to what the common mob, the rabble lower viewers not interested in (around the times a little on the tip to drive). If you are not from films, but for marketing purposes, the mass turns, but a certain clientele wants to talk to the film or maybe just wants to rotate, then surely synonymous slightly cheaper and the quality may be somewhat less from.

But where I tell you then, unfortunately, contradictory, is that if I shoot a movie, I like not only to want to restrict the content, but like a symbiotic relationship between content and form would have. Both should agree. For me it would be purely on the content, then I would probably synonymous, the Handycam range. And the ever take in FullHD on: P

The question now, just because you raised so that it is not yet worth now in the early HD technology to invest, but just wait and to bargain from the SD area to allow: Were the circumstances not of Purchase of SonyFX-1 worth it? The SD can absorb, but again synonymous HD, if not halt synonymous as perfect as it is in a few years go, but for the moment quite acceptable?


~ edit: Since I am lagging behind a bit of time and during the time when I've written, yet again so many new comments were, I still just einklinken:
Yes, it is a new purchase.



Reply Manuell:

http://dvxuser.com/articles/shoot3/

Helps you maybe next :-)

Greeting
Manuel



Reply Alex_HH:

According To Edit / Cut HDV requires more computing power than SD. At a media academy in Hamburg, the problems promptly when I arrived with HDV material. From AVCHD, etc. not to mention .....

Of course, a Handycam NOT to see good movies to be able to rotate. You simply lack the controls of a semi-professional camera and the handling of such a cam. A swing with a shoulder mounted camcorder, a ride or work with Steady Cam learned safely with only a semi-professional cam. The jump to an HD-Cam is no longer so crucial.

I regret it sometimes, I just only one HDV Handycam for about 1000 euro bought. Material looks great, but to the professional learn how to shoot, would be used safely XL2 better. Because the workflow is not far away of professional formats.

All a matter of taste!



Reply wolfgang:

So if you want to cut HDV, you eigentlch with a good 2-core PC is on modern quad is absolutely no longer an issue. AVCHD is still expensive.

And no, still to shoot in SD is probably outdated - long one should really only go to HD.



Reply B.DeKid:

Gude slippers

So if you're a student film I would put myself on what the focus should be.

Also the output s.Money plays a role that has not been discussed.

Yes you can with Cams alá XL2 learn but this is synonymous with SonyCams as the FX class.

You can see many reasons really minimum for HDV.

A XH A1 or so would be quite synonymous your service done.

.........................

The argument on SD, you can not rotate, I probably need to vote, but I will complete my current project to turn - because with the next config material that I would like to use its Resolutionvon 800x600 and it makes no sense to put on HD -- in my case. I will then shortly afterwards but synonymous change to HD. But now I can every euro saved well in the Project can enter and use.

So if you eg only 2000 euros available to be straddling the XL2 or the XL1S, she is reaching out all sorts of things in the handling and etc to realize.
Consider the cost synonymous factor Equitment, the more quickly again 1000 euros (+) swallows.

If you then want to produce high-quality, bond Cams - I've already made synonymous or make it permanent in photography - so I can not with Hasselblad Phase One back and justify afford.

Also I've just synonymous to me the last few years where I've now synonymous money and experience, and after after everything which I bought years ago could only dream of. And believe there are times sweetie synonymous with the cost still needed today, what a good current (Pro) Cam consumer costs - especially with my funds and large format (analog) cameras.
I do not know why the quality to me years ago today begeistete so badly to be. I rather feel that the current consumption of less quality viewer to appreciate.

(Example Super HD Cam and where is the video - on Youtube)

I started with analog Still Image and 8 mm - landed in VHS and Hi8 SD - and until now have never had complaints.

Remember always the quality is only as good as can be what you made you what you do and especially you can afford or justify it. Then you will succeed in life are synonymous.

And since it makes more sense with good conscience s.solche sophisticated investments to go.

MfG
B. DeKid

PS: My first XL1S, unfortunately I bought 3 months before the release of the XL2 and although I was annoyed but would like all my Errungenschafften you do not sell but make the best of it.



Reply Kabelträger:



Since I must speak to you again. Most (Bavaria - in the other, I am pretty sure but synonymous) have HD cameras, or in such plan to invest. In particular, since the currently very favorable. The remaining equipment is usually designed exclusively to SD and it is synonymous in the next 5 years min. remain.

Gruss, flo



Reply charletto:



The contrary, I, because it is not true. The fact is - as previously mentioned, the stations all with DigiBeta rotate and this in the foreseeable future, not synonymous change. In the next 2 years is the first time the planned conversion to 16:9 and Full HD, there will be in Europe anyway, but 'only' 720p. The earliest date for HD 'Standart'ist eg at ZDF in - maybe 5 years, I know that from a safe source, because in our last week a team from ZDF EP arrived, and the statements came during a conversation with the team out. So why now this question, just a good cam for his personal needs to buy - and do not necessarily follow a so-called trend, of the marketing experts? on the market have been thrown into - the statements do not necessarily fully trust.
HD is not fine, but ultimately requires quite a change (from Rotate started) and of course the equipment is synonymous as synonymous the entire hardware and software - and all has its price. Ultimately you have a wonderful film - and it may be most interested did not pass - not for lack of existing hardware. Speaking of course, only the dedicated amateur to ...

LG
Charly



Reply deti:

That is not true! Your reliable source of information is absolutely not. Please do not spread such falsehoods in a public forum. If you want to see how far the switch now, then drop me an email - then you may perhaps come synonymous times.

Deti



Reply charletto:

Imbecile, then turn away s.die editorial hub of Germany and inform you when the EP team, if you have ne other statement - with sound indication of the data - you can not email me - or known here! I'll give back the only thing I had, and nothing else! Covers, of course not necessarily with the announced HD fever ... at the stations!

LG
Charly



Reply Jürgen F.:

@ charletto
"deti" looks quite right and is probably better informed.
You should have the freedom to "EB" team have been intensively searching for the whole truth to know.
Many free teams, mainly for the private sector to work, take advantage of "digi-beta", because this format is synonymous with the ÖR accepted. That means not that the ÖR turn on DigiBeta. In any case, it is not the "house size" for the EB team, for example, in the ZDF. Here is DVCPro 25/50 for years and since about 2 years, "P2" announced. This can be achieved by the structure of each country Studios handled quite differently.
As before, however, DigiBeta (Mpeg2/50mbts) and DVCPRO50 like in the studios used as MAZ (synonymous with the ZDF)
Even old items from the archives (yet to 1 "Mazen) were at the ZDF in the last 5 years using sophisticated error correction on DVCPRO 50 transferred.
It is true that in the HD-ÖR train ride comes slowly. Apart of the short-term test runs "one festival" - again at Easter - and the LA World Cup in Berlin in mid-August 2009, the ZDF officially - in parallel or in SD - the World Cup Winter Games in Canada in HD720/50P transferred.

Viele Grüße Jürgen F.



Reply Alex_HH:

Hello,

was just another extra cameraman asks a lot of free work for the NDR.

Here are more complex productions, the internationally synonymous sold are to be rotated in HD. The daily current matters and reports to be rotated next to Digibeta. Likewise, contributions to magazines, etc. ... Interestingly, the format is usually whether it synonymous for the international market that is. The foreign countries (especially USA and Japan) seems to be something next.

Another example: Did the late summer for the TV production of the Germany tour worked. The day was broadcast live on ARD transferred. Man in the Picture (SD) 16:9 produced, but only because of the international market demands, not the ARD (at least not at that time).

I do not understand that "deti" and others always feel personally attacked when they say that public broadcasters are lagging somewhat behind (or at least not yet HD standard). If the sender of the press releases of the last 10 years on this issue I can think of no other conclusion. Is synonymous not so bad, that our fees in recent years, not for technology, not yet fully mature was rausgeworfen was.

I was admitted to the fact that the NDR for (earliest) 2010 purchase of HD Cams plans, based on BluRay and not on record card. Whether this is so, or the plan is rejected again, then was asked. Synonymous But this is a sign that the market is still very much in flux and a final standard has not necessarily been found.

And in this thread was indeed primarily a question of how one moment in the film can not even now almost extinct format. That is a different question than whether a broadcaster or a production company yet again in SD technology should invest. Since then the answer of course, only loud NO.

Nothing for ungut!



Reply DWUA:

Slippers @

As for the "house" Slashcam broadcaster Up
breitwürfig of themselves, is consistent, if it is synonymous
may sound contradictory at first.
;))
If you initially but unhelpful.
As a "prospective student film" you should first know that
your HS / FHS in equipment seem to
Years back has remained what the technical equipment is concerned.
(It is a fat rat's tail s.veralteter Postpro equipment behind it.)
That is a fact, not only financial reasons:
Viewed purely educational, it is useful for example with a Camera
work to learn the optimal illumination s.Set
requires in order to get good pictures;
- Without the "LOWlightautomatik" instructed to be.

Now we should know with what area you
mainly involved.
"Film Student" alone is not enough.

Would also be interesting to visit here to hear
what your "people" so you can recommend.

ps
As a film student you should not practicable, as mentioned above of
you mentioned on "Biography" kaprizieren and calibrated.

;))

You see s.obigen contributions that your question about the
Secondary system. It is purely a question of your
student's purse.



Reply B.DeKid:



Exactly ;-) (-;



Reply charletto:



Knew not, for a series of magazines such as Germany, the hub is now a 'free EB Team'den contribution would have been created. Below I understand something else - according to my knowledge, the cameramen and the presenter of the program for ZDF - and for whatever reason, my questions are answered incorrectly?

LG
Charly



Reply Bernd E.:


I would be synonymous not assume that a standard ever again as it is found with Beta SP analog times. Unfortunately, yes synonymous each format (XDCAM HD vs. XDCAM EX vs. AVC-I) and each recording medium (disc vs. PF. SxS vs.. P2) its own advantages and disadvantages. Fortunately, someone who wants to shoot short films, but not synonymous decision criteria in s.den broadcast oriented.



Reply Bernd E.:


Evil's intention was certainly not, but EB-cameramen are synonymous only human: one is more interested in changing his professional life, the other less. Since not everyone has on the current state of development.



Reply schlappen:

So,
First many many thanks for all your many contributions and suggestions. Ultimately, the purse has now triumphed and I got such a good as new Canon XL2 rise to very very good price.
Today came and was therefore synonymous today outside the whole afternoon .. And I must say I regret it for the moment absolutely not, my SD-Cam purchased to have;)

I hope that this feeling will last a long time. The XL2 is really a super camera.

Thanks again. You have me really very helpful.

Only the best greetings and a radiant smile,
Tim

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