After some experience with the programs premiere pro (cs3) and Avid Media Composer with which I am both on the Mac, as synonymous to the PC have practiced, I am a small but subtle difference between the Mac and PC version have. The timeline of Macversionen is much slower and more cumbersome than the PC versions. They act almost emulated! (Of course, equally mighty on their systems). I know this is nothing but earth comes to an explanation? Finally, it works rather well but with a liquid timeline or can I not here with these experiences?
Thanks for your answers!
mfg beat maker!
Antwort von Beatfabrikant:
None has an idea? Why is the Mac in terms of slower than a PC?
Antwort von WWJD:
In FCS Benutzhandbuch I recently read that there is a picture omission may occur if the compiler is too warm. Perhaps this is your and my problem with that due to who knows, I am nerv always synonymous, but unfortunately we have to accept ...... I work synonymous with Premiere Pro CS3 on a Dual Core PC, without ever schlapp to be .......
Antwort von Jörg:
But a fruit machine is so much nicer and more stable and ever ...
Antwort von PowerMac:
"Joerg" wrote:
But a fruit machine is so much nicer and more stable and ever ...
Sweetie!
Antwort von geid0r:
Mac is synonymous with other programs slower than a PC with Windows.
For example, synonymous with Adobe Photoshop, this experience, I have already made. Until the program is first opened, jumps to the icon in the dock almost to death! Working with Photoshop, I feel on a PC much more pleasant. Have time with a MacBook Pro worked.
The move back to the PC was needed because there are no reasonable Programs CAD, at least not the standards, such as Pro / E or Catia, for Apple there.
Greeting geid0r
Antwort von Jörg:
But a fruit machine is so much nicer and more stable and ever ...
Antwort von Beatfabrikant:
Even with Final Cut Pro that I am finally at a buddy antesten could effect the scrubbing very emulated. Tjoa times .... look what Snow Leopard brings mitsich. Otherwise, the next notebook will probably win again based ....:(
Antwort von masterseb:
this is probably because the adobe products have not really optimized for mac. the apple products are all liquid and fantastic. problem can still synonymous s.filesystem subject: Just run the disk check, or lack of performance updates to install. Final Cut Pro is anyway better than premiere. vorallem the quicktime implementation.
Antwort von Beatfabrikant:
"masterseb" wrote:
this is probably because the adobe products have not really optimized for mac. the apple products are all liquid and fantastic. problem can still synonymous s.filesystem subject: Just run the disk check, or lack of performance updates to install. Final Cut Pro is anyway better than premiere. vorallem the quicktime implementation.
In my experience, Premiere Pro is running on the PC liquid as Final Cut Pro on the mac, if only the reaction times in the timeline window and composer considered. Can someone else confirm?
Antwort von masterseb:
I do not: D
Antwort von schlaflos011:
... I do not synonymous PS but I tippp on the mac much faster than on pc ;-)
Antwort von Zizi:
Well the fact is clearly just the software smithies rather for the broad mass producing! I generally like Apple's version of CS3 is not! The whole graphical Dockinstation the rubbish and make me crazy every day! As a pure box is working for me, a Mac's largest rubbish! The aim of the office laptops and iPods / phones remain for which it is necessarily want. because they can be really good .. the rest provide only for wirwar among the users None really like to have! Think about times s.BlueRay and HD-DVD ..
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But a fruit machine is so much nicer and more stable and even
Jaja .. . the times were once .. Now construction and the Intel work in the same way as a PC .. question are not a bit more stable! It is where you've got a favor or a Beweiss link me a better attention! (except Apple's advertising)
Antwort von PowerMac:
Zizi, s.in the cave.
Antwort von KlausZ:
AAAAB very quick!
Antwort von Zizi:
Yes, I think I make myself from the field before the Apple elite aufkreuzt and again on "Crusaders" desist! Yes Apple is better, prettier, cheaper, easier, faster and above all! Oh prestige they bring synonymous with a lot .. therefore, they are in Europe among the proletarians represented! ;-) I think Apple is simply not fit to me because I am not a Fanboy or wants to send me lots of money to save (no no Aldi PC)!
Antwort von KlausZ:
ich mach's kurz: DUMMSCHWÄTZER!
Antwort von strike300xxx:
So Macs are synonymous to good work, Zizi. Especially for cutting. Music. Photography and anything creative. (Yeah, sounds like cliché IS SO!)
I know hardly a professional recording studio or media company in the Mac's not the grunt.
I remember because all s.Zeiten Pro with Avid's cut ... Avid and there were once only for Mac!
Antwort von strike300xxx:
EDIT: But PC's are actually not synonymous worse!
Antwort von schlaflos011:
YES EXACTLY - ACTUALLY --
;-)
Antwort von Jörg:
... maybe some day we could in principle pro / contra Win / Mac debate, or something ....??
Antwort von Beatfabrikant:
If a Mac so good for video, photo and audio editing is why the program will run worse than on the pc? So here I will not somehow bad mac make'm MacUser himself but I'm already a little "confused"
Antwort von KlausZ:
Something like me would be totally new and is apparently synonymous for the first time here in the forum have been discussing? I can in any event no difference between the PS on my Mac and the version on my FirmenPC (both CS3) can be observed. If the vote would certainly already in relevant magazines, forums.
Antwort von immanuelkant:
"Joerg" wrote:
... maybe some day we could in principle pro / contra Win / Mac debate, or something ....??
No, please not yet so pointless thread!
Antwort von Jörg:
.... where are they ... oh, the topic nicely green ....
Antwort von Zizi:
A Mac is just getting used sache! The slower the programs running on it, I already noticed synonymous! But this is only noticeable in direct comparison .. ! Abstürtze / hangers in my SAE circles if any more people with Mac than with Vista! (I can not prove, however, is so) In any case, there is a PC into a Mac or back-to-None, quite the contrary .. through the dissemination of Winbugs obentrein there are still a lot fewer problems between all the programs, formats, tools, etc. etc. freeware available! The only one where the Mac is better, the easier handling! But anyway since everyone in the nursery windows with "literate" seems to be / should find in the PC for no more difficult with such a fine expensive Mac! An experienced Windows users can at least provides faster more effective working as an equal on a Mac! Especially if you then with the remaining 95% of PC user is working! In any event programs such as CS3 are slightly better optimized for PC .. What indeed is only logical .. because in this sector is much better and synonymous to sell PCs to be written! Also according to the few SAE hp, Flash gurus can be found in the same .. yes before the Mac even louder stink! Each has its .. But when allegations such as: Mac is more stable, better, etc. sucks me up! This is Fanboygelaber of types and is said that with Vista have never really busy! The times where Mac> Apple had are gone! Mac = PC with a nice utopian luxury prices and its own operating system .. (not more) The man synonymous so well cut, work can doubt I garnicht .. but only the "Mac is much better" fuss of people because the white color in the head is just stuck because they are better able to work.
Antwort von strike300xxx:
So Abstürtze I often times synonymous. (MacUser)
I think this statement is the "Mac as stable walk" comes of people who only use Safari and iTunes.
Antwort von KlausZ:
As often as yet, Zizi? The None really wants to hear more. Thus this nonsense that you continually runterbetest he is synonymous not true. If I already SAE hear ... Aaargh. You just look at your blog, it becomes clear: There was a desire to tinker, because has a lot of time and since has agreed to a complex of an austerity: Zizi, the bargain hunters, part 3 - now in your movies ... What can the world make you wrong for SAE to go with violence and there have to use Macs, you now have such a frustration. Throw all the stuff out the Macs s.die wall (liberating effect, perhaps), buy what you like nice (SchnäppchenPC) and spirit is not everywhere like a homeless person, instead of a tip for a cheap platform to its rancorous begged. The work is not so.
Antwort von Axel:
"Zizi" wrote:
The times where Mac> Apple had are gone! Mac = PC with a nice utopian luxury prices and its own operating system .. (not more)
Zack! This blow zizt, uh, sit! Three, zwo, one that I wake up, and lo and behold, all Doofheit falls s.of me, I can clearly see what was lurking in front of me. It is time to admit it, above all, I am one of deception aufgesessen. Because I'm a small-important consumer Heini am Apple has brainwashing campaign caught with me. But no longer! Now that my eyes were opened, I want to liberate other synonymous. Same time I am opening a new thread.
Antwort von Kino:
"Axel" wrote:
... Same time I am opening a new thread.
Then there's' ne of my petition, which has washed - promise!
Antwort von Bernd E.:
"Zizi" wrote:
... Rubbish ... rubbish ... wirwar ...
That is almost nothing more to add ;-)
"Zizi" wrote:
It was the ... you have a link to me one better by ...
Gladly: www.rechtschreibpruefung24.de
Antwort von Zizi:
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Gladly: www.rechtschreibpruefung24.de
eh it was clear that the fanboys here with her sarcastic gequatsche off of mac weaken try! apparently you can in google will find nothing better to me to prove the stable running osx? @ klaus and axel: ye well the wisdom eaten with the spoon? have you ever ever with a real vista pc longer worked for it so scheiße find / scream? bs I know both equally well and I am in a great many things dear vista .. clear both before and disadvantages .. but stability simplicity vista is guaranteed no worse when you make a mistake so beshcäftigt! But as in so many forums is synonymous here: the proletarians themselves what an expensive and has paid, will always be the best proposition synonymous wenns waste is only a comparative one who has 0!
Antwort von Axel:
"Zizi" wrote:
... bs I know both equally well and I am in a great many things dear vista .. clear both before and disadvantages .. but stability simplicity vista is guaranteed no worse when you make a mistake so beshcäftigt!
Could be that I was cutting concerns will soon change because my colleagues fully to Adobe on the PC itself. I've never tried him of Apple to convince. Among friends such ridiculous prejudices should not be the creative impulse in the way of.
I hope so - seriously - to be aufgesessen prejudices, and that Vista does not cut plus unequal stability, and that I was not too long as you write, "to employ" must.
Antwort von Spielkind:
and I've had angst, this discussion is over, thank you for your strong support in the battle against boredom!
Antwort von Meggs:
"Axel" wrote:
Could be that I was cutting concerns will soon change because my colleagues fully to Adobe on the PC itself. I've never tried him of Apple to convince.
How error-free or fast Premiere on the Mac or the PC is running, neither Apple nor Microsoft are responsible, but first and foremost Adobe. In the case of "crashes" you have to distinguish between program crashes or crashes of the operating system. A blue screen in Windows, I had not been more, but Adobe Programs rush out and starting again. Adobe After a few years, the Mac platform is no longer served, CS3 was probably first created for the PC, then ported to the Mac. Good possible that at this order the Mac version is unstable or slower - until Service Pack XY. Synonymous, I think the statement from the first post, that "same powerful" hardware s.werkeln was to verify value.
Antwort von KlausZ:
"Zizi" wrote:
@ klaus and axel: ye well the wisdom eaten with the spoon?
Besides just s.die own hearts, then a shoe draus
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have you ever ever with a real vista pc longer worked for it so scheiße find / scream? bs I know both equally well and I am in a great many things dear vista ..
8 and I work more hours so s.Tag. Is my company laptop and there is no alternative. Even those colleagues with me in the room was still prefer XP.
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clear both before and disadvantages .. but stability simplicity vista is guaranteed no worse when you make a mistake so beshcäftigt!
This want, however, not many, because they must work in order to earn money or simply do not deal with technical Krimskrams want. Can you understand?
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But as in so many forums is synonymous here: the proletarians themselves what an expensive and has paid, will always be the best proposition synonymous wenns waste is only a comparative one who has 0!
Haste the award from the newspaper picture copied? Do about you, with your Proleter You seem very appropriate role here have described. I know quite well what I'm talking about here, Vista is still clearly behind OSX and if you get your next spell weakness synonymous nor something simple like a Google search engine with useful terms could equip, you need (such as next above) not to ask any links.
Zizi, you're staying here and break the clown. Bin next to your posts tense - and let's really time yet?
Antwort von shodushitanaka:
Is it really the boring winter in Germany?
My humble observation: That after the 14-page thread "Mac or PC but here again einsteigt is so childish and ridiculous.
.... sort of s.fremdschämen grad ..
Antwort von Beatfabrikant:
"Megger" wrote:
"Axel" wrote:
Could be that I was cutting concerns will soon change because my colleagues fully to Adobe on the PC itself. I've never tried him of Apple to convince.
Synonymous, I think the statement from the first post, that "same powerful" hardware s.werkeln was to verify value.
I have on my Macbook pro early08 Windows on bootcamp installed and the Win-version (trial) of Premiere CS3 and the Media Composer 3 (out of school) and it installed angetestet. The result is the first post of this thread has degenerated Assessment.
Antwort von Axel:
"Beat maker" wrote:
I have on my Macbook pro early08 Windows on bootcamp installed and the Win-version (trial) of Premiere CS3 and the Media Composer 3 (out of school) and it installed angetestet.
XP then? Sorry for the stupid question. Will probably make it synonymous provisionally, in any case just to test everything. A little crazy, everything.
"shodushitanaka" wrote:
.... sort of s.fremdschämen grad ..
We should have a winter musical rehearsal, after Jesus Christ Superstar. Zizi sings the evil high priest, the one point with the bass and the Ka-nödelstimme: "Most enu, most ger, ger dis Opple most!" We are different as a choir in the background, obviously in white with sequins and pompoms Cheerleader: "Shame, shame, shame, shame on you!"
Antwort von Beatfabrikant:
Jap XP! But I think that in terms of no preference is whether you use Vista or XP.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
"Zizi" wrote:
... obviously you can in google will find nothing better to me to prove the stable running osx? ...
Much worse: I have absolutely no attempt to do your homework. Who so great herumtönt and s.laufenden tape up allegations that without Google as nonsense identifiable, but the can - you have it in other threads already proven - his rigid worldview not by any facts ruin. Do not take everything so seriously, Zizi, the whole discussion but anyway here is largely of sense, but better than some TV Comedy ;-)
Aaaaaaargh ... is like the "Knights of Never!" here
;)
Antwort von Meggs:
"Beat maker" wrote:
I have on my Macbook pro early08 Windows on bootcamp installed and the Win-version (trial) of Premiere CS3 and the Media Composer 3 (out of school) and it installed angetestet. The result is the first post of this thread has degenerated Assessment.
Adobe and Avid are with these products of competitors, Apple's Final Cut. Who knows, maybe the interfaces that Apple reveal, not as efficient as that which they themselves used. For Microsoft gabs something like that. Some operating system functions work in MS Office, not the competition.
Antwort von Beatfabrikant:
"Megger" wrote:
"Beat maker" wrote:
I have on my Macbook pro early08 Windows on bootcamp installed and the Win-version (trial) of Premiere CS3 and the Media Composer 3 (out of school) and it installed angetestet. The result is the first post of this thread has degenerated Assessment.
Adobe and Avid are with these products of competitors, Apple's Final Cut. Who knows, maybe the interfaces that Apple reveal, not as efficient as that which they themselves used. For Microsoft gabs something like that. Some operating system functions work in MS Office, not the competition.
Final Cut pro is not synonymous, however, "better" in terms.
Antwort von Jörg:
"Bernd E." wrote:
but better than some TV Comedy ;-)
what the hell you look for the transmitter, Bernd? ;-( (
Antwort von Zizi:
these mac vs. pc forums are really ridiculous and entertaining at the same time! mac if really so much better about how many here think they would have in every household are! but the success of prescription pcs is still flawless! is proof enough that the people prefer / can work better and not much time / money / pleasure have an apple and to buy back as a novice in front of a computer, the time must beat tod! As previously mentioned 10 times: it is just a getting used to ask! everything else as more stable, better, etc., everything is full of rubbish! so want the Mac fanboys just their crates s.die spitze bring so they are not always alone in the PC go to mass more compliant, were cheaper, software, support, etc. too! this is the same as ZBS. bmw audi drivers make bad and vice versa! all the shit just is not true anyway and is greatly exaggerated! Sure OSX is in many ways a logical and beautiful gestalltet been .. but if you interested in ~ 70% if it is under windows anyway know how to do it? because you do not have an overpriced box of it almost makes itself ..
Antwort von KlausZ:
Rare, but very rarely heard such a nonsense. The Zizi creates it again and again ... My tip: Even you can use the edit button!
PS: Will you actually narcotics? :-O
Antwort von Beatfabrikant:
"Zizi" wrote:
these mac vs. pc forums are really ridiculous and entertaining at the same time! mac if really so much better about how many here think they would have in every household are! but the success of prescription pcs is still flawless! is proof enough that the people prefer / can work better and not much time / money / pleasure have an apple and to buy back as a novice in front of a computer, the time must beat tod! As previously mentioned 10 times: it is just a getting used to ask! everything else as more stable, better, etc., everything is full of rubbish! so want the Mac fanboys just their crates s.die spitze bring so they are not always alone in the PC go to mass more compliant, were cheaper, software, support, etc. too! this is the same as ZBS. bmw audi drivers make bad and vice versa! all the shit just is not true anyway and is greatly exaggerated! Sure OSX is in many ways a logical and beautiful gestalltet been .. but if you interested in ~ 70% if it is under windows anyway know how to do it? because you do not have an overpriced box of it almost makes itself ..
Ok dus apparently have not yet (after so many posts, my goodness!) Understood. The Mac is not better or worse, as your primitive mind might like to believe. He is merely an alternative to a PC, and depending what you start with your chest is just like a Mac or a PC to the "better" or "stable". And now listen to such ridiculous posts to make.
Antwort von Zizi:
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The Mac is not better or worse, as your primitive mind might like to believe. He is merely an alternative to a PC, and depending what you start with your chest is just like a Mac or a PC to the "better" or "stable". And now listen to such ridiculous posts to make.
Yes because I'll give you absolutely right! Have I ever claimed the contrary?
Antwort von Beatfabrikant:
"Zizi" wrote:
mac if really so much better about how many here think they would have in every household are!
Why should he do it? The Mac also has its strengths when it comes to video editing or other graphic work, which also are very computing intensive. But its weaknesses in terms of office and games (Only an example). Is this Haushaltstauglich? For some yes, for some, but not synonymous. As I said "better" is used here as a "better suited for ...." interpreted.
Antwort von pailes:
"Beat maker" wrote:
Why should he do it? The Mac also has its strengths when it comes to video editing or other graphic work, which also are very computing intensive.
Because I must themselves as Mac users oppose. A Windows box expects at least as reliable and fast as a Mac. If yes, the same hardware, and if there are differences in speed, it is bad idRsder Optimization of a program for each OS.
I would say that the Mac has advantages especially in terms of usability, consistency, reliability, maintainability of the system, etc.
(Apart from this there are a number s.Programmen for the Mac, which are so good that one reason alone is no longer wants to work on Windows)
"Beat maker" wrote:
... But its weaknesses in terms of office ...
You mean well weaknesses in MS Office. For the Mac, there are numerous Office applications and many of them are really good. For the average user it is enough to hold all and who really dependent on MS Office, which should really 2x superior if he has a Mac with OS X will.
Antwort von KlausZ:
I would never iWork 08 with the fully loaded MS Office 2008 want to share! The three applications Numbers, Pages and Keynote are sort of insufficient and easy to use (have never seen a manual set up must) that you have the office stuff really laughs. Excel has its strengths when it needs to be complicated (calculations, reporting, complex reports), but for the regular spreadsheet users, it is easy to phatt. And Keynote is better anyway PPT. I have for years worked to PPT (and there must be still in operation), but as quickly and as appealing as I am with Keynote warrior with PPT (2007) that no presentation. The list is endless, when I do, however, is anyway the whole time ;-) OT
Antwort von Meggs:
MS Office has at least since 1992 with Winword 2.0/Excel 4.0 the whole functionality, which in a normal office use. In principle, could have Multiplan / Word (DOS) from the 80zigern more than most users need.
Antwort von Zizi:
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Zizi has written the following:
mac if really so much better about how many here think they would have in every household are!
Why should he do it? The Mac also has its strengths when it comes to video editing or other graphic work, which also are very computing intensive. But its weaknesses in terms of office and games (Only an example). Is this Haushaltstauglich? For some yes, for some, but not synonymous. As I said "better" is used here as a "better suited for ...." interpreted.
I have never claimed that a PC is more like a Mac .. but the Mac is not much better as a PC! easy! And why would a Mac in the video or graphic field better like a PC? Just because Mac is better represented here is not the car they are better here .. at least as far as you can with a Mac, what with a PC could not do except splurge? " And now do not come with stable and faster .. because I too often the opposite has suffered! Mac is like you've already mentioned differently and a good alternative boring for the PC, no more .. Stable as anything, etc. Apple was once ..
Antwort von pailes:
"Zizi" wrote:
at least as far as you can with a Mac, what with a PC could not do except splurge? "
I can love you like a list of things, which is with Windows / Linux does not do.
But it is not so much about the "if", but the "how". But you're sort of stubborn, so you do not realize what the "Mac Fanboys" you are trying to say.
Antwort von Axel:
"Zizi" wrote:
Just because Mac is better represented here is not the car they are better here ..
Right. That means it is not. They are perhaps more popular? And, as you say, this increased popularity is based on prejudice, which in the past often confirmed, but no longer. The claim you are from my own experience. Your credibility as an expert on both platforms is apparently not highly traded. It may be that Windows is now better than ever, I am not up to date, but when it would become even worse than I know, it would have been abandoned and without a doubt among the 30% savings compared shitted Mac (he I provide an argument for Windows).
Mir is absolutely no preference, so other work, and you actually synonymous. You like, it is not about to convince others that you had skillfully employed. I, too, is about entertainment, not truth. But so slowly, the arguments are stale, and the joke goes flutes.
Antwort von Zizi:
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I can love you like a list of things, which is with Windows / Linux does not do.
Yes, please?
Antwort von pailes:
"Zizi" wrote:
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I can love you like a list of things, which is with Windows / Linux does not do.
Yes, please?
Ok, first example, we do not want to overwhelm you:
My vector graphics tool can be any vector graphics in the PDF format in the clipboard and then I can of these PDF graphics into my text document in Pages, or my presentation in Keynote (or elsewhere) to embed. Then I can move them as PDF export and it is still all a vector graphic. This workflow is possible because of the quartz layer in OS X is based on PDF, and so each application is available. In other operating systems is not possible.
And please no workarounds now enumerate. I want an application of vector graphics in PDF on the clipboard into another application to transfer.
Antwort von Zizi:
Aja .. very important argument! I buy me tomorrow like a new Mac .. I am convinced that this works on PCs synonymous .. maybe just stop komplitzierter or otherwise as it has only a few need. else dir nix Ein? " So nothing to me and I work since 3 years with Mac! It is on Mac as good as nothing more gravierentes on as on a PC .. just stop some things go easier or harder synonymous rare .. the isses synonymous already gewessen! That reminds me of PC. significantly more benefits in what could be opposed to a Mac can do! Of course, synonymous s.dem the user whether he can use the synonymous / wants for example games, overclocking, hardware upgrade more compatible with popular software freeware synonymous, etc. .. Of course, no Mac user is missing because he has enough money to buy anything and no loss has rumzuschlagen with some things you can buy anyway. Mac, but no preference is simply a different and a good alternative for those who have too much money, and anyway only essential functions to use!
Antwort von Axel:
"Zizi" wrote:
Of course, synonymous s.dem the user whether he can use the synonymous / wants for example games, overclocking, hardware upgrade
You say it ;-)
"Zizi" wrote:
... more compatible with popular software freeware synonymous, etc. .. Of course, no Mac user is missing because he has enough money to buy anything and no loss has rumzuschlagen with some things you can buy anyway.
You say it ;-)
"Zizi" wrote:
... Mac, but no preference is simply a different and a good alternative for those who have too much money, and anyway only essential functions to use!
I see you've never created a presentation or scientific s.einem worked. But your spelling is perhaps synonymous better so we do not want to, that the audience gets eye cancer.
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I am convinced that this works on PCs synonymous .. maybe just stop komplitzierter or otherwise as it has only a few need.
No it does not. And you're pretty limited when you think that this is only a few need. That is a really great feature.
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else dir nix Ein? "
Sure, but you will always have the same Blabla reciprocate, because of the "no one will need." Maybe it's the many little things that in the sum makes a big difference. Think need more heart.
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So nothing to me and I work since 3 years with Mac!
Hahahahahaha ... You're great. I work with Windows for decades and for many years with Macs. I am a software developer professionally and develop Windows software. I know things about computers, of which you have not even the slightest clue. Do what I do not even talk about computers fun?
Antwort von TheBubble:
"Pailer" wrote:
My vector graphics tool can be any vector graphics in the PDF format in the clipboard and then I can of these PDF graphics into my text document in Pages, or my presentation in Keynote (or elsewhere) to embed. Then I can move them as PDF export and it is still all a vector graphic.
It is running Windows of course possible, vector graphics via the clipboard exchange.
Antwort von KlausZ:
Our Empress Sissi here is already the sensation of what? Looking yes nothing, so early because I do not even argue s.zu. The can not read (or perhaps do not understand), has a pair of left hands, which is the handling of the Mac is concerned (probably holding too much PC pollute because it is indeed long after-effects type) and is anyway only blinded when he was only Mac hear. So something is with the youth in the wrong. The poor ...
Antwort von pailes:
"TheBubble" wrote:
It is running Windows of course possible, vector graphics via the clipboard exchange.
You read my contribution not. It is about PDF, not a vector graphics ansich. What Windows as a vector graphic in the clipboard can (WMF, EMF) is perhaps a good joke, but more are not synonymous. Ie it is not useful and certainly not applied across when you are not just limited to Office wants.
Antwort von Meggs:
"Pailer" wrote:
You read my contribution not. It is about PDF, not a vector graphics ansich. What Windows as a vector graphic in the clipboard can (WMF, EMF) is perhaps a good joke, but more are not synonymous. Ie it is not useful and certainly not applied across when you are not just limited to Office wants.
PDF is applied across only if both the giving than the receiving synonymous Application PDF, just as WMF. In any case, it is not a problem, a vector graphic of CorelDraw to Adobe Illustrator on the Clipboard to copy. Obviously they can be synonymous with Illustrator save as PDF. What is not useful to me to be cryptic, with Office, the two programs to do nothing.
Antwort von pailes:
"Megger" wrote:
In any case, it is not a problem, a vector graphic of CorelDraw to Adobe Illustrator on the Clipboard to copy. Obviously they can be synonymous with Illustrator save as PDF. What is not useful to me to be cryptic, with Office, the two programs to do nothing.
I'm impressed. That means you can be a WMF file with Windows-board resources to export to PDF, you must only buy Illustrator. Hey that's not bad. Not that I am at Illustrator come ;-)
The key message of my postings, however, was not PDF and vector graphics. That means you can a piece of PDF from the Adobe Acrobat Reader via Copy 'n paste in the clipboard and then paste in Word? Or in Coreldraw? And then with Coreldraw / Word again the result in PDF export (without extra printer itself).
Antwort von Chezus:
as we all know: the whole leads to nothing, it is only to amuse.
Zizi: you argumentierst you here in the ditch! You say in one post: that Windows has 90% market share, which reflects so that it is better
below and next you say: just because Mac in the video field is better represented, it is not that it is better
But finally listening to! People that work with Mac does not mean that they have too much money! We have already discussed everything!
You widersprichst you, you take arguments are not correct or simply are not relevant!
Each to his own I say only. If you're happy with Winbugs, beautiful. I know many extremely halt frustrated Windows user who wants to OSX would change. Only they say, for my applications is too expensive to me. that is, not that it is overpriced.
I got my MacBook Pro yesterday and receive processing is enormous. I have never had such a robust notebook in his hand. For the part knarzt purely garnix, although it is very thin. I would argue now that there is just not there Windows laptops, which only roughly synonymous processing s.diese ran last.
For my purposes (After Effects, Final Cut Pro, Photoshop, DVD Studio Pro, Resulum etc.) is more than enough power and I need more connections are not synonymous. Shit on video games that keep me just above them s.with programs to earn money. The argument falls away completely for me. So for me the first choice!
Reich, I am certainly not, but so happy to be able to work without being disturbed by the MacBook to have been impoverished.
Seis drum, you will always return a number of arguments Winbugs search and make the bad part ...
Antwort von Meggs:
"Pailer" wrote:
The key message of my postings, however, was not PDF and vector graphics. That means you can a piece of PDF from the Adobe Acrobat Reader via Copy 'n paste in the clipboard and then paste in Word? Or in Coreldraw? And then with Coreldraw / Word again the result in PDF export (without extra printer itself).
I do not know why you have to ride around PDF. If I want a PDF, then I have at least 5 different tools to generate the. The internal format of the clipboard is me, at least no preference as long as the data exchange between different programs to work, and he is doing. You can on his Mac with wmf probably not much use to us, and this annoys you just as much, I suppose. As you surely know, the Windows users via OLE even the possibility of any data from any applications that support OLE in documents discouraged. Of course, I can order a PDF into a Word document embedding. Your argument is about as conclusive as the following fictitious case of a fictitious Windows user: PDF is a joke and is good for nothing, the only true vector graphics format is WMF. Can you not on your Mac as a WMF graphic to the clipboard in another program, and then save as wmf, without detours. No? Siehste!
Antwort von KlausZ:
That is it ... 5 different tools and all so half-baked, if not equal neatly in an Adobe Acrobat invested the only tool that really works. Our graphics department has all kicked out after months of trouble with third-party tools. When I have a Mac functionality, which I published anywhere can generate a PDF. And everybody could read this PDF yet. This is Mac - to do exactly what it should. What should I be with 5 (or more) tools? I am a long time Windows user and that is really just one of many examples that proves that there is a little bit, but really is not. When I think remains synonymous - I was able to experience the past few years to collect enough. Be happy with your Windows. I am in any case quite happy, after a working day with only MS-OS evening to turn on my Mac and I can with all the unnecessary rubbish must not rumplagen.
Antwort von pailes:
"Megger" wrote:
As you surely know, the Windows users via OLE even the possibility of any data from any applications that support OLE in documents discouraged. Of course, I can order a PDF into a Word document embedding.
And thy OLE Importer plugin can then deichseln so synonymous that the word transparency in PDF and recognize the text correctly in the light of transparency in the PDF content wraps? If you have achieved, then take a video of them on and I think always guarantees the edge ;-)
Sorry, but you just do not understand what I'm talking about. I am not with any 3rd-party ActiveX plugins s.meinem s.meinem Office rumschrauben. ActiveX and all the COM-Geraffel is anyway s.der the greatest crimes of humanity.
"Megger" wrote:
Your argument is about as conclusive as the following fictitious case of a fictitious Windows user: PDF is a joke and is good for nothing, the only true vector graphics format is WMF. Can you not on your Mac as a WMF graphic to the clipboard in another program, and then save as wmf, without detours. No? Siehste!
Only PDF is a platform-independent and de facto standard WMF cripple a proprietary solution. And no, this is not a matter of opinion.
I never doubted that Windows is any form of vector graphics. Zizi wanted an example of something that was on the PC is not so. I have one called him.
I can synonymous other examples, then someone will come back and give me a highly amusing workaround for Windows present, but how to do that, theoretically, can somehow hintricksen. One has to only 5 freeware tools and install and it will be somehow be. But that is not in the sense nunmal a Mac solution.
Antwort von Meggs:
"Pailer" wrote:
I am a software developer professionally and develop Windows software. I know things about computers, of which you have not even the slightest clue.
"Pailer" wrote:
And thy OLE Importer plugin can then deichseln so synonymous that the word transparency in PDF and recognize the text correctly in the light of transparency in the PDF content wraps? If you have achieved, then take a video of them on and I think always guarantees the edge ;-)
I was until now assumed that you are on the Windows platform as somewhat familiar, and know what you are talking about. I speak of Object Linking and Embedding (OLE 2). This is integrated in Windows since 1994 and no third-party Ole importer plugin. If I have an Acrobat 2.0 OLE document into a Word document, it contains the Word document, not just the PDF, but the overall functionality of Acrobat, including of things you mentioned. A video I will not start when it's you are interested you can find loads of material on the Internet. http://www.at-mix.de/ole.htm
Antwort von Meggs:
"Pailer" wrote:
Only PDF is a platform-independent and de facto standard WMF cripple a proprietary solution. And no, this is not a matter of opinion.
PDF is just as proprietary is DOC or WMF and is usually cited as an example with explanations of the word "Proprietary". http://www2.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~baierer/multimedia/proprietaeres.htm
Word documents can be with the same privilege as a platform-independent Defacto standard explain how PDF documents. Proprietary cripple solution: Pithy statements of this kind which are neither justified nor occupy, are not so rare. Because someone somewhere times what aufgeschnappt, but not so well understood. What he understood is that Microsoft only makes garbage. That he then disseminated synonymous industrious next without having to justify. Sure, he may indeed not synonymous.
Antwort von pailes:
"Megger" wrote:
I was until now assumed that you are on the Windows platform as somewhat familiar, and know what you are talking about. I speak of Object Linking and Embedding (OLE 2). This is integrated in Windows since 1994 and no third-party Ole importer plugin.
Meggen Dear, your Power User links can give you, I know what OLE is. Do you OLE plugin works without technology? Adobe PDF has the appropriate functionality via COM available, otherwise you can not PDF content embedded in Word.
A COM DLL is nothing more than a plug with an interface to which all applications can access.
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If I have an Acrobat 2.0 OLE document into a Word document, it contains the Word document, not just the PDF, but the overall functionality of Acrobat, including of things you mentioned.
Of course there is then an Acrobat Reader PDF view in your Word document, but this is still a long way with Quartz in OS X and comparable so that you can not synonymous, the same results.
Attempt what I said above you have a look. Try it. It will not work. Achso, Word can break inside the transparent area of an image will not accomplish. I'm sorry but:-P
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A video I will not start when it's you are interested you can find loads of material on the Internet. http://www.at-mix.de/ole.htm
Yeah, thank you, maybe you read something about myself OLE, ActiveX, COM and how they are implemented. Do you OLE functionality is magic? Behind normal DLL and a DLL is nothing more than a plugin and if you want to have this functionality, then you need Adobe this "plugin" to provide and this is then a 3rd-party plugin. Or do you think Microsoft itself offers PDF functionality "out of the box" via OLE / ActiveX to?
Do you think what I post here is all just hot air? I know what I'm talking about. Read the times here: http://www.objs.com/x3h7/ole2.htm
Happy reading.
Antwort von pailes:
"Megger" wrote:
PDF is just as proprietary is DOC or WMF and is usually cited as an example with explanations of the word "Proprietary".
PDF is synonymous proprietary, but nonetheless a de facto standard and largely plattformunabhäbgig and you can easily measure s.Verbreitungsgrad. DOC is probably synonymous a de facto standard, I do not deny that and I've never been synonymous. This discussion drifts too far I've, I've never said anything about DOC.
"Megger" wrote:
Proprietary cripple solution: Pithy statements of this kind which are neither justified nor occupy, are not so rare.
Do you feel any responsibility or do you work for Microsoft? WMF / EMF are the best will not be par with PDF. Neither the feature set nor the penetration.
This haste was to laugh: http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=pdf&word2=wmf
Did I win?
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Because someone somewhere times what aufgeschnappt, but not so well understood. What he understood is that Microsoft only makes garbage. That he then disseminated synonymous industrious next without having to justify. Sure, he may indeed not synonymous.
The same could I say of you synonymous. Ta, I did not. Or what you already know about Quartz? Still think you can judge that what you have in Word OLE with PDF can reach gleichmächtig of me on the above feature.
Btw. Microsoft actually produces a lot of garbage. From and to are synonymous with good things (. NET for example). Often they make it but then over time, again broken.
I am by far not as "biased" as you like it perhaps appears. For example, I believe that Visual Studio is a great development environment is, the NT kernel ansich a good kernel and that Vista is not as bad as everyone claimed. But with OS X, Windows, unfortunately it does not record, maybe it's working with Windows 7 ;-)
Antwort von Meggs:
My dear Pailer, I had you this power users posted links to German, because your statements because I had the impression that you just do not know what you are talking about. Thanks for the link with the English content. Is well intentioned, but I know enough about COM, ActiveX,. Net, Visual Studio. I deserve for many years so my buns.
Antwort von pailes:
Nothing for ungut I wanted you to meet your feet. We sit in a boat anyway. I thought You're just a windbag, I take your arguments to me very much to heart and in fact can be with ActiveX with very powerful things accomplished. I hope you take my apology :-)
