I'm looking for a clever Microphone for dubbing when. Only Language; no vocal or instrumental recordings.
I look at the online guides of www.thomann.de leisure, and yes it is probably only a large-diaphragm microphone question.
I think this audio interface with diesem oder synonymous the Micro is not a bad choice? Has anyone of you this combination ever tested or continuously in use?
Admittedly, the Micro is extremely sensitive, and my calculator is pretty loud. I think I will still need something.
And if you wonder why I use the online guide of Thomann prefer but the Gates of Music Links here stelle - quite simple: the times to be synonymous. Thomann is so constantly in conversation. And then there is still productive and Music and Other ..
The greatest of all they are anyway, according to self-promotion ;-)
Gruß Johannes
Hello
Test times with the ZOOM H2, so my experience is very satisfactory. Gruss Rolf ...
Antwort von shipoffools:
"Rolf Hankel" wrote:
Test times with the ZOOM H2, so my experience is very satisfactory. Gruss Rolf ...
uh ... that someone who has a prior Rode NT-2A for almost 300 euros to buy and to have a relatively good audio interface (Tascam 122 L) a Zoom H2 for ADR recommends that you can actually just a joke intentioned, is not it? The above combination of large diaphragm and micro audio interface is already in a much higher league than the Zoom recorder.
@ Nicecam I think with the Rode NT-2A and the Tascam 122 L, you can hardly go wrong. This semi-upscale wagon likely claims, without further requirements. However, I know both from personal experience.
... and you should really have a silent calculator and / or a well-damped speaker enclosure, because with a large membrane micro synonymous still take the fart of a mosquito on ... o)
Antwort von Rolf Hankel:
"shipoffools" wrote:
"Rolf Hankel" wrote:
Test times with the ZOOM H2, so my experience is very satisfactory. Gruss Rolf ...
uh ... that someone who has a prior Rode NT-2A for almost 300 euros to buy and to have a relatively good audio interface (Tascam 122 L) a Zoom H2 for ADR recommends that you can actually just a joke intentioned, is not it? The above combination of large diaphragm and micro audio interface is already in a much higher league than the Zoom recorder.
@ Nicecam I think with the Rode NT-2A and the Tascam 122 L, you can hardly go wrong. This semi-upscale wagon likely claims, without further requirements. However, I know both from personal experience.
... and you should really have a silent calculator and / or a well-damped speaker enclosure, because with a large membrane micro synonymous still take the fart of a mosquito on ... o)
Everyone should stop after its Fasson happy Gruss Rolf ...
Antwort von newsart:
Sure is a high-end large-diaphragm condenser microphone is the first choice for the perfect voice recordings. But without a speaker cab, clean noise decoupling and Ansprechfilter is actually not. If even the PC in the same room in the house or running some other people are (Treppenhaus, trucks on the road, etc.) is a drama.
Mei unusual but very practical tip: Sennheiser MD421. Dynamic super-cardioid. And so synonymous sensitive to electromagnetical disturbance in environments as Nahbesprechungsmikrofon use. The new price is 330, - Euro for 190's which are used (eg for me, including me wei ne whole battery of them for our reporters have purchased).
Greetings, Carsten
Antwort von shipoffools:
"Rolf Hankel" wrote:
... Everyone should stop after its Fasson happy ...
That's right.
... and even a small suggestion s.Rande: What if you do not always have the full contribution, you have to relate, would cite only the relevant passages? This saves space.
Greeting shipoffools
PS: @ newsart That with the MD421 is really 'ne worth.
Antwort von Meggs:
"shipoffools" wrote:
uh ... that someone who has a prior Rode NT-2A for almost 300 euros to buy and to have a relatively good audio interface (Tascam 122 L) a Zoom H2 for ADR recommends that you can actually just a joke intentioned, is not it? The above combination of large diaphragm and micro audio interface is already in a much higher league than the Zoom recorder.
Synonymous One could say: The fact that someone so much money for Micro and audio output interface, and then the recordings in a normal room with noisy PC place, but can only be a joke. The technical equipment is often overestimated, which reception conditions usually underestimated. In secret rooms with Zoom H2 recorded voice recordings sound pretty sure much better than recordings with Tascam 122 L, Rode-NT2A and noisy PC.
Antwort von Jake the rake:
The NT2-A is yes (in kidney and eight position) synonymous addressed. In the quiet corner with the noise sources "Off-Axis", the sites where the first reflections occur with Molton mattresses or covers, a midway verünftige recording possible.
XLR Kaben cost not synonymous the world so you can simply synonymous to a quieter space walk ...
(Of course it's still no comparison with a real studio, but here it goes around the hobby, no?)
Antwort von Meggs:
"Jake The Rake" wrote:
XLR Kaben cost not synonymous the world so you can simply synonymous to a quieter space walk ...
.. the doors or leave times fast with a few of the Hilti drill through walls ..
Sure, you can manage and it's about a hobby. If you do not want to push too much effort because of the shooting conditions, it is a mobile recording device, such as the H2, used for example in the loo, not only cheaper, but as a result of synonymous better than expensive technology in hostile areas.
Antwort von Jake the rake:
In more than loo to flush the sample, or my test you serious?
Antwort von shipoffools:
"Megger" wrote:
Synonymous ... One could say: The fact that someone so much money for Micro and audio output interface, and then the recordings in a normal room with noisy PC place, but can only be a joke. The technical equipment is often overestimated, which reception conditions often underestimated ...
And that is why on top of me clearly written:
"... and you should really have a silent calculator and / or a well-damped speaker enclosure, because with a large membrane micro synonymous still take the fart of a mosquito on ..., o)"
Who really good dubbing wants, needs the appropriate level of effort.
Greeting shipoffools
Antwort von nicecam:
Oops, I come with my response not so fast as answers to them ...
First, many thanks s.alle that replied.
I had written that I am not the problem of optimal environmental conditions'm aware.
I am also not on the Rode NT-2A fixed, but did so as an alternative, the NT-1A. The sensitivity, is the same.
@ Newsart I have now once more at Thomann nachgeschaut. The Sennheiser MD421 is rather in the field of PA, but you seem to do to live well.
@ Rolf, @ Meggen The Zoom H2 is certainly worth a consideration.
"Megger" wrote:
In secret rooms ...
and
"Jake The Rake" wrote:
XLR Kaben cost not synonymous the world so you can simply synonymous to a quieter space walk ...
However, I would have on Picture of dubbing and therefore would rather sit in front of the calculator.
"Jake The Rake" wrote:
In the quiet corner with the noise sources "Off-Axis", the sites where the first reflections occur with Molton mattresses or covers, a midway verünftige recording possible.
My editing computer is in a rather small room, while living and sleeping area and office spokesman perfectly cabin size, and then Molton / Matratzenausstafierungen - does not.
Seems to be a new act, which may solve the noise problem would be? The cheaper of the products I mentioned my wallet would then but maybe not overburden. But cheap it is still not.
"Megger" wrote:
... then is a mobile recording device, such as the H2, used for example in the loo ...
In case of doubt, but perhaps more to the loo ;-)
But is clear that less is sometimes more.
Further advice and suggestions to me at any time, open-minded.
Gruß Johannes
Antwort von Meggs:
"Jake The Rake" wrote:
In more than loo to flush the sample, or my test you serious?
You'll laugh, I have 3 toilets and in one (by that I mean the room), the acoustics are not really bad, go in the direction of Speaker cabin - without continuous irrigation of course.
I actually wanted to give notice that the voice recording room acoustics is very important, and how to make a fairly good result with rel. hinkriegt modest means.
Antwort von Jake the rake:
Thus we have clarified:) (So, with the acoustics)
On the subject Verton: and VGA Cable + webcams cost no more synonymous the world ...
Have it in one of my studio so synonymous solved. Screen, 16:9 19 "about 150 ¬, 10 ¬ per Webcams + ev splitter cable and switcher, etc. Nowadays, I think is not a big deal more
Antwort von Pianist:
"newsart" wrote:
Sennheiser MD421. Dynamic super-cardioid.
Kidney. Super cardioid is the 441st MD Is for the discussion here no preference, I just wanted to mention.
Matthias
Antwort von Franken 1:
Microphone for voice recording - the comments
The firm Audio Technica has some time ago a condenser microphone with cardioid Richtkarakteristik on the market. Since I am always a good Microphone've searched, I made an attempt with the AT2020 USB. I was immediately excited. This is not a mixer or other technical equipment needed. The AT2020 USB is easy via USB s.den PC and then in the System Preferences, Sounds and Audio Devices audio recording device as a logged in, and then it's been synonymous.
The actual Microphone following items are included: Rotatable tripod adapter, tabletop tripod and 3.1-meter USB cable. So everything for voice recordings s.PC.
The recording quality is very good and one's own voice is also very natural. Noise from the PC are not perceptible. As already said, I'm very satisfied, and the price of 149 euros for this quality with safety is not too high. I would like the AT2020 USB no longer miss.
System Requirements: Windows XP Home Edition or XP Professional, USB 1.0 or 2.0, 64 MB RAM or higher. Frequency response 20-16000Hz, Resolution16 bit, weight 374 g.
Was purchased at the Microphone Musikhaus Thomann.
Antwort von Pianist:
"Frankenstein 1" wrote:
Since I am always a good Microphone've searched, I made an attempt with the AT2020 USB. I was immediately excited. This is not a mixer or other technical equipment needed. The AT2020 USB is easy via USB s.den PC and then in the System Preferences, Sounds and Audio Devices audio recording device as a logged in, and then it's been synonymous.
Can you times a typical voice recording as a WAV file upload? Eventually, a brief factual enough, yes. I am interested in what such a small solution to offer, because I just s.einer very expensive and cheap solution to the happy times would Comparison.
Matthias
Antwort von domain:
What I do not really want to be obvious, is a rather costly for the Micro PC to buy and thus possibly even life to discuss the film. I think so quietly, the PC can not be that I in this way would make. But please, correct their hobby hobbyists want to hold gold. Some buy a golden Dunnhill lighter for the cigar from the weekly Klimaschränkchen :-))
Antwort von Meggs:
"domain" wrote:
What I do not really want to be obvious, is a rather costly for the Micro PC to buy and thus possibly even life to discuss the film. I think so quietly, the PC can not be that I in this way would make.
And if so, then I would a good dynamic vocal micro, which is quite unempfundlich is the ambient noise and greatly attenuates. Cardioid polar pattern with a condenser micro-nothing good, because the PC sounds are reflected everywhere.
Antwort von nicecam:
@ Franken 1 My solution, I will look closer. And the request of pianist s.dich, sometimes a small example upload host, I can only?.
"Pianist" wrote:
I am interested in what such a small solution to offer, because I just s.einer very expensive and cheap solution to the happy times would Comparison.
Does your solution around synonymous in the direction which I have outlined here?
@ Domain Something more constructive please. I wanted to be here so no solution of present and you can rubber-stamp, but search Council!
Gruß Johannes
Antwort von newsart:
Matthias You're right. MD421 is ne kidney, but nevertheless, especially for the near field around with super-quiet noise fit. I would lower the PA area assign as many years at any public-radio reporter rumlief so (and still synonymous today rumrennt). Whether it's your believe or not - we have so many 60 min-reportage of public law and private TV channels composed, although a studio condenser micro-KSM-44 for about ¬ 800, - standing right next to it ... On what rauskommt, is what counts.
Antwort von Pianist:
"nicecam" wrote:
Does your solution around synonymous in the direction which I have outlined here?
No, I have a Neumann TLM 103, a very good speaker room, working with 30 cm distance meeting, listen to two Klein & Hummel O96 and have recently been a voice of processor
Antwort von domain:
Ad dynamic vocal micro-insensitive: I just think in this particular situation synonymous for suitable .. For amateurs and dilettantes, there is actually a pretty good chance, so to speak, all in one:
6. Conclusion ZOOM H2 In the price range up to 300 euros to the background noise is normally accustomed. This is where the Zoom H2, in our opinion, new standards. There is no comparable good recording quality in this price range and without the external microphone! the result is broadcast recordings.
Well, opinions about pretty well apart, I myself work with the Edirol R1 and integrated microphone, or proboscis earwigs or the Mk 400, all on a music stand and everything temporarily mounted in the central, relatively shielded anteroom schallmäßig (not far away of loo), imposes various linens with room for soundproofing.
Antwort von newsart:
Even though I am with my productions must earn Money: amateurs with amateurs, I believe that equate to disrespect. The intersection of professionals / amateurs should at least just as big ...
Antwort von Meggs:
"newsart" wrote:
Even though I am with my productions must earn Money: amateurs with amateurs, I believe that equate to disrespect. The intersection of professionals / amateurs should at least just as big ...
Source: Wikipedia:
Quote:
A dilettante (ital. dilettare from lat delectare "enjoy") is a non-professional, amateur or layman. The dilettante exerts a matter for their own sake, which is of private interest or pleasure.
It might be he perfect knowledge and skills they have. As long as he does not start working professionally exercised, so his livelihood, or an appropriate, accredited training has completed, it is considered dilettante.
Antwort von domain:
There is a certain increase in this mountain cliffs in the semantics. A Dillettant is still a real Stümper, but has already a murder joy with his hobby (Jörg from Cologne, for example). The word comes of dilletto to s.etwas delight, something to enjoy, s.etwas joy, but is not in our vocabulary quite a negative connotation. The next stage is the amateur, is of amare, to love something so, so synonymous a certain (financial) commitment is connected. This term is quite positive.
The next increase is prosumer, who has quite a lot more technical stuff and expertise not only in the head, there is a lot of money from his hobby and is potentially s.Sprung the professional.
The professional, in turn, this poor pig must be smooth with the Money lovable hobby deserve.
Antwort von nicecam:
@ Pianist Okay, so high so now I will not!
@ Meggen Verflxt because you were quicker. On the Wikipedia article, I wanted to refer synonymous.
@ Newsart And yes domain has paragraph No.3 of the said article is not even considered ;-)
Gruß Johannes
Antwort von nicecam:
"nicecam" wrote:
@ Newsart And yes domain has paragraph No.3 of the said article is not even considered ;-)
But he knew him.
Antwort von newsart:
Top! Schmunzel ...
Antwort von nicecam:
Sign me back ...
Was on the loo - Acoustic Testing
Conclusion: lousy acoustics.
Have now the spokesman for the loo cabin expanded.
Is now a new toilet. Had only one ('m not Meggen).
@ Domain you show us hieryour quiet village. Do you like it leave me? I would be satisfied. Sell you hold one of your motorcycles and afford you a new toilet.
The components of my proposed were applauded. My suggestion, in the vicinity of me reported use was heavily criticized.
The alternatives were:
[list] 1 Zoom H2 2. Sennheiser MD421 3rd AT2020 USB [/list:u:46f72d4f78] Nr. 1 wurden of Rolf Hankel and Meggs als brauchbare Lösungen gehandelt. Nr. 3 wurde of Franken 1 höchst gelobt, and Pianist war s.einer Vergleichsaufnahme interessiert.
Beide Mikros werden bei Bedarf über USB s.den PC angeschlossen. Sicher wohl nicht die qualitativ beste Lösung?
Nr. 2 wurde of newsart sehr souverän ins Spiel gebracht and of shipoffools ebenfalls als sehr interessant empfunden.
Meggs and domain waren sich einig, dass in meiner Situation ein dynamisches Gesangsmikro of Vorteil wäre.
Das Sennheiser MD421 ist dynamisch.
Also einigen wir uns auf dieses?
"Megger" wrote:
AT2020 USB [/list:u:46f72d4f78] Nr. 1 wurden of Rolf Hankel and Meggs als brauchbare Lösungen gehandelt. Nr. 3 wurde of Franken 1 höchst gelobt, and Pianist war s.einer Vergleichsaufnahme interessiert.
Beide Mikros werden bei Bedarf über USB s.den PC angeschlossen. Sicher wohl nicht die qualitativ beste Lösung?
Nr. 2 wurde of newsart sehr souverän ins Spiel gebracht and of shipoffools ebenfalls als sehr interessant empfunden.
Meggs and domain waren sich einig, dass in meiner Situation ein dynamisches Gesangsmikro of Vorteil wäre.
Das Sennheiser MD421 ist dynamisch.
Also einigen wir uns auf dieses?
... then is a mobile recording device, such as the H2, used for example in the loo, not only cheaper, but as a result of synonymous better than expensive technology in hostile areas.
AT2020 USB [/list:u:46f72d4f78] Nr. 1 wurden of Rolf Hankel and Meggs als brauchbare Lösungen gehandelt. Nr. 3 wurde of Franken 1 höchst gelobt, and Pianist war s.einer Vergleichsaufnahme interessiert.
Beide Mikros werden bei Bedarf über USB s.den PC angeschlossen. Sicher wohl nicht die qualitativ beste Lösung?
Nr. 2 wurde of newsart sehr souverän ins Spiel gebracht and of shipoffools ebenfalls als sehr interessant empfunden.
Meggs and domain waren sich einig, dass in meiner Situation ein dynamisches Gesangsmikro of Vorteil wäre.
Das Sennheiser MD421 ist dynamisch.
Also einigen wir uns auf dieses?
And the Sennheiser MD421 is new, at least not exactly cheap. Also do I need to always have an audio interface, either the Tascam or another - I see that right?
But the Sennheiser is good? And
AT2020 USB [/list:u:46f72d4f78] Nr. 1 wurden of Rolf Hankel and Meggs als brauchbare Lösungen gehandelt. Nr. 3 wurde of Franken 1 höchst gelobt, and Pianist war s.einer Vergleichsaufnahme interessiert.
Beide Mikros werden bei Bedarf über USB s.den PC angeschlossen. Sicher wohl nicht die qualitativ beste Lösung?
Nr. 2 wurde of newsart sehr souverän ins Spiel gebracht and of shipoffools ebenfalls als sehr interessant empfunden.
Meggs and domain waren sich einig, dass in meiner Situation ein dynamisches Gesangsmikro of Vorteil wäre.
Das Sennheiser MD421 ist dynamisch.
Also einigen wir uns auf dieses?
"newsart" wrote:
AT2020 USB [/list:u:46f72d4f78] Nr. 1 wurden of Rolf Hankel and Meggs als brauchbare Lösungen gehandelt. Nr. 3 wurde of Franken 1 höchst gelobt, and Pianist war s.einer Vergleichsaufnahme interessiert.
Beide Mikros werden bei Bedarf über USB s.den PC angeschlossen. Sicher wohl nicht die qualitativ beste Lösung?
Nr. 2 wurde of newsart sehr souverän ins Spiel gebracht and of shipoffools ebenfalls als sehr interessant empfunden.
Meggs and domain waren sich einig, dass in meiner Situation ein dynamisches Gesangsmikro of Vorteil wäre.
Das Sennheiser MD421 ist dynamisch.
Also einigen wir uns auf dieses?
... for 190's which are used (eg for me, including me wei ne whole battery of them for our reporters have purchased).
AT2020 USB [/list:u:46f72d4f78] Nr. 1 wurden of Rolf Hankel and Meggs als brauchbare Lösungen gehandelt. Nr. 3 wurde of Franken 1 höchst gelobt, and Pianist war s.einer Vergleichsaufnahme interessiert.
Beide Mikros werden bei Bedarf über USB s.den PC angeschlossen. Sicher wohl nicht die qualitativ beste Lösung?
Nr. 2 wurde of newsart sehr souverän ins Spiel gebracht and of shipoffools ebenfalls als sehr interessant empfunden.
Meggs and domain waren sich einig, dass in meiner Situation ein dynamisches Gesangsmikro of Vorteil wäre.
Das Sennheiser MD421 ist dynamisch.
Also einigen wir uns auf dieses?
Still other suggestions?
First, thank you for advice and
Gruß Johannes
Antwort von Jake the rake:
Sennheiser rate. It is a solid professional product that you do in 100 years, still can use. (If "No. 3" I would not be so sure)
Zoom H2 is great for Atmo stop recording, so that would du 2 flies with one stone, you should be interested.
Basically, I believe that you have with all 3 solutions erziehlen useful results can ... ;)
Antwort von newsart:
I think that is a good solution. Yes, an audio interface (or even a small desk - as old-fashioned ...) is necessary because the MIC inputs of sound cards usually no good. Just as important is a good opponent for Headphones and control behind. I propose as the Sennheiser HD-25 before. When interface is important to make sure that the MIC during the recording VERZÖGERUNGSFREI on Headphones exist. Some models only the sand via USB through the Windows Mixer, or even the editing program, which will then be very unpleasant delays and each speaker from the train throws. The old-fashioned desk in my view, has many advantages haptic (Gain, Equi, display, Talk-Back ...) By the way: Who is the Sennheiser s.einer components (MD421 or HD-25) has used interest, may at times my synonym in the bay to fish ...
Antwort von Kabelträger:
And the 421 is not to be forgotten almost as stable as a SM58 - men can almost nails into the wall cut;)
Hast echt what of! (There are even people who claim you could run it in an emergency even as a listening monitor use - but have only heard of it and it probably will not try;)
gruss, flo
Antwort von Pianist:
I still s.einer Hörprobe with this USB Microphone interested.
Matthias
Antwort von Jake the rake:
"Pianist" wrote:
I still s.einer Hörprobe with this USB Microphone interested.
Matthias
While not a reference to the studio that you know is useless but anyway ... At least, almost .... since, as we are synonymous in this thread again have learned to a large extent synonymous space makes the sound ...
Antwort von Pianist:
"Jake The Rake" wrote:
While not a reference to the studio that you know is useless but anyway ... At least, almost .... since, as we are synonymous in this thread again have learned to a large extent synonymous space makes the sound ...
Of course. But I'm interested just like a voice recording of someone who sounds just like that of a part s.seinen Calculator stöpselt and drauflosredet. That is an approach synonymous times. Our One is now fully operational dust, so loud Neumännern, compressors, limiters and so next.
Matthias
Antwort von nicecam:
@ Newsart The TASCAM US-122 L says of himself that it was free latency. What is "small, old-fashioned desk with the many advantages of haptic" floats before thee? It has no greater purpose, my relative ignorance to deny :-)
