I already realized that I no Ferrari to get 5,000 euros, but perhaps yes a replica for 6,000
Image Stabilization opt ... has convinced me ...
Lärmarm yes you should be doing and it cost around 250 ¬. The Battery is not a hit, the equipment is quite good, but the connections are not a hit.
What say ye on the Cam? Unfortunately, nothing had as to the values found Lux. I've viewed a few vonSony and they were all> 4Lux, it is a bit much, right? The zoom is quite synonymous:)
The zoom is very good, besides many other cameras of the highest optical zoom.
Sorry, I mean with the very good zoom, that this camera even at high zoom erziehlt good image quality.
In addition, the zoom very much with the personal handling to be done: To "play" for example, a lot of amateurs with a total zoom around.
NightView in Color: night vision function in color, not the usual green light stich. But not to recommend the mode, very choppy.
Stereo Zoommikrofon: If you record a video while zooming, auto is the sound source increased s.die you zoom.
PS:
Reply Aljoscha.Niko:
So, thank you in advance for your comprehensive answer:)
... but that is synonymous for such a light, or not always?
Jap, that isser as synonymous. ;)
... Mhhh, more so as a last resort, if I necessarily want to record and not just light it? ...
Yes, correct.
... but since the name "Zoom-sound" or something in the art .. Is it synonymous bemerktbar or rather only in theory?
Well, it really does not buy very much, it is simply the volume hochgedreht, but not really s.die sound source herangezoom. I would leave out.
And same question with the wind. Such a function does not my old, it uses only minimal or something?
As you remember but one - although only slightly lower, but noticeable difference.
So as with the old cams anyway? So where you sort through the hole looks? * g *
I do not know what you are now "old" understand, but yes, to "look through the hole." ;)
... As I have seen it, here it is "true" 16:9, right?
Yes, real cinema format. ;)
MfG
Aljoscha
Reply Markus73:
... but since the name "Zoom-sound" or something in the art .. Is it synonymous bemerktbar or rather only in theory?
Well, it really does not buy very much, it is simply the volume hochgedreht, but not really s.die sound source herangezoom. I would leave out.
I have this mode s.meiner GS180 something accurately tested because I do not synonymous really knew what I expect of them. For me personally, apart from the volume above all synonymous noticed that in the telephoto position noise became audible. Since I use this function no longer works.
The Panasonic microphones are otherwise really quite good and a Laustärkeanhebung get in the editing program in general better way. So I would say synonymous: Somewhat off.
Gruß,
Markus
Reply MFH-W9:
Good,
the "zoom effect" I will probably be times. Had me now quite nicely presented, aer probably unnecessary Schnick Schnack.
So eigenltich had thought that 32x zoom opt not too bad. Are they probably are not synonymous, but rather unnecessary. With these figures, I have never been handled, have at my Digi-Cam for example, 3x zoom and a ticker more precisely, it could happen. had 3.6 x digital again and you can totally forget, so I was of 32x Opt been thrilled with 10x but probably enough, especially in view of the diminishing effect of Insensität.
Good, may I see a hole of Panasonic 3CCD. The 180er perhaps that would be yes 400 ¬ cost at Amazon. The would have a 3CCD, but do not opt stabilizer, which I really would like to have. Good, but not know in how far the quality changes. Is it recommended to have a 180er than 80 to get? On Panasonic.s.ist the 180er only to find, so now I can not directly compare, but the stabilizer falls flat immediately. The zoom is 10x so with just good enough.
What is it with tape noise? Or is there between them, perhaps even synonymous something interesting for me would be? On Panasonic.s.bzw. Com is only one choice Begrentzte and most just not quite my price range.
60
80
180er
These are the ones at the moment so would be affordable and there are listed, where could I look for as yet. The best would be a list and the opportunity to compare. Well, direct or suggestions, I am finally no preference:) You notice s.meinem text is now probably a little bit that ichetwas'm confused and some may not assess or evaluate. Hope you can ear me (again;)) explain:)
I am just missing the experience and knowledge because it is compact to be seen. White just that opt stabilizer better than an electric, but, other component, such as CCD and 3CCD added synonymous although I know that the 3 is better, but still synonymous with an electric stabilizer? Hope you understand what I mean:)
Mfg W9
Reply Markus73:
Good, may I see a hole of Panasonic 3CCD. The 180er perhaps that would be yes 400 ¬ cost at Amazon.
If this price you actually get more, it would be a superior alternative.
I had previously never been a GS80 in hand, however, several of the small Panasonic 1CCD devices. I'm just about synonymous, from a video recording of the GS180 (my device, 3CCD) and a GS20 (of acquaintances, 1CCD, roughly comparable with GS27 and GS37) zusammenzuschneiden. In good light is synonymous to "small" rather ordinary pictures. If the light is weaker, the differences are clearly visible, synonymous for laymen. If hot, sharpness and color of the GS20 go into the cellar. As I said, hands-on experience with the GS80, I have none, but it uses a sensor with comparable data, such as the aforementioned "small" device. So I would expect similar quality, maybe a little better because a larger lens.
As GS180 user can, I'm going stabilizer relating to say the following:
- A difference in image quality (resolution) with and without stabilizer can I personally do not notice (does not mean that there is no there, but I do not see him)
- The stabilizer operates in 16:9 mode
- Even with stability, there is no perfectly calm Picture
After some tests with and without me he is usually off, I film with Tripod, wherever it goes. With some practice you can get out of hand synonymous good recordings achieved if greater zoom actions waived.
At least I was the opt. Stabi the surcharge to Upper Model not worth it. However, I am pleased every time when I see my pictures that I had my little Einchipper (GS27) to test recently returned and fetched me the GS180 had. This difference can be seen. MY estimate is that the difference 1CCD-3CCD important in practice than between electr. and opt. Stabilizer.
Band sounds: If you listen to at all in very quiet environments, but not synonymous then really annoying. After my experience this is true for all Panasonics.
I can tell you only the Council give you possibly the GS80 to buy a return option and to ensure they are at rest to be tested. In good light, you'll have no problems, but try synonymous of how the camera reacts to bad light: Movies in the building synonymous in darker corners and burn a DVD of these images, just so they can be well judged. If you like what you see and if sufficient for your needs, great.
So I was synonymous's done, was not satisfied and I have therefore decided for the GS180, with which I am very happy.
Thus, the end of my novel, I wish you that you really decide :-)
Gruß,
Markus
Reply Markus73:
Small addition:
Here's test pictures:
http://www.videoaktiv.de/content/category/4/44/57/
GS80 and GS180 are, like many others. What particularly synonymous with good light striking thing is the higher Resolutionder 3-Chipper. For example, in the grass s.ersten Still Image details are clearly visible, while the total GS80 somehow "muddy" effect without really bad to be. Also I find the colors in the GS180 pleasant.
Reply MFH-W9:
Super, I like it here, thank you again for your help!
You go at least to my questions and give no 0815-Copy & paste answers. Or I put my questions to these answers fit * g *
Well, joking aside. I am now strongly about whether I get the 180er hole. I'm on Amazon angewießen, because I am used to finance vouchers with Cam and if necessary to pay a little thing, I must see. In any event, I looked at the pictures test times and even the 80s and 180er compared and must say that I use the 3-Chipper irgendwie mag. Knew only that he is better now but I was able to convince himself. Above all, he seems so synonymous inthe darkness to be better, what I also ascribes.
The 10X zoom is okay with, 15-20x while I would have been happy to play, but I can be happy, since it is probably not even with Tripod is very simple and other reasons were indeed synonymous already mentioned, why it is not worthwhile. I'm really curious how it is with the zoom. And if the stabilizer synonymous electronical quite okay, I can live with just that in 16:9 mode "fails" is not so nice, but will anyway usually the 3:4 film. How is 16:9 then? From the Qualiflyer ago.
So, yes've said that I am bound s.Amazon, there is the
Panasonic NV-GS180-EC http://www.amazon.de/Panasonic-NV-GS180-EG-Camcorders/dp/B000EWBJWC/ref=pd_bbs_1/028-3819787-0676566?ie=UTF8&s=ce-de&qid=1182982701&sr=8-1 What is it with the "S" mean? They do look ever so different, but otherwise?
And in a recession, I have read as follows:
Components on the top of the camera allows for example the construction of an additional video light, but not of the camera is fed, or an external microphone.
What is a passive Zubehörtschuh, yes I know now, but how is it with the "will of the Camera is not fed" mean?
Hoffe external links to Amazon etc are not banned, so do not advertise, otherwise simply bescheidsagen, then do I remove the link:) (achja, so just the ¬ 400 cost of the "S" version anymore? Since you said that they the price is okay)
Mfg W9
/ / Maybe make the link a mod nice white slightly smaller, by some way the HTML will not work.
Reply Bernd E.:
What is it with the "S" mean?
If you mean the rearmost points of NV-S-GS180EG mean, says nothing other than that the cabinet is silver. Some dealers write the official model designation halt, others leave the "S" away - there is always the same camera.
... how is it with the "will of the Camera is not fed" mean?
As you know, passive accessory shoe of a purely mechanical connection, but has no electrical contacts, such as those with a lamp of Camera Battery mitversorgt, just "fed", could be.
Gruß Bernd E.
Reply MFH-W9:
Hehe, well, how I love these codes yet. The "S" is rather unimportant and hat with the cam itself or its Qualiflyer nothing to do.
Have some more of what Eurpaware heard what's that?
And maybe even someone with something to the quality of say 16:9.
Good, then he has only the passive Zuberhörschuh defined, then so good. Somehow thought that he might not be 100% accurate paast.
Was heue at Saturn and did a bit with the Zoom Cam played an up and 10x gezoom. That should probably synonymous rich, you could zoom up to 12x. So as I said before, 15x would be perfect, synonymous when it then I would rarely use. Nungut, now I will probably get höchwahrscheinlich the 180er. Or even some things to consider?
Will probably be a few cassettes and mitbestellen Battery for a second look, because I will be on something to look out for? Should I prefer an original Panasonic get it or do replicas synonymous? Because of the light, I will later look at ebay or something. Perhaps the Cam fits even in my old bag, that would be super, but you'll see.
Mfg W9
Reply Markus73:
Have some more of what Eurpaware heard what's that?
These are devices that are actually for sale in another European country, are usually a bit cheaper than the "German" model. Technically, there is no difference, and occasionally appears on the rumor, then it would have been in the case of a warranty repair issues and long waiting times, since the device's to be sent abroad.
I've had a bit rumgesucht, supposedly, this problem is not specific to Panasonic, as long as the account of only one German dealer comes. But the absence of exact knowledge there is no guarantee, then I have just a few euros more pay, because it was annoying to me, nor rumzufragen long until I get a definitive information.
And maybe even someone with something to the quality of say 16:9.
Well, there's really not much to say: There is an "anamorphic" 16:9, ie the "good" solution with no black bars above and below, ie the same Resolutionwie at 4:3 and the pixels horizontally slightly to the length of and therefore a small loss of resolution, as usual in this method. Subjectively, the same good impression as synonymous Picture at 4:3.
Will probably be a few cassettes and mitbestellen Battery for a second look, because I will be on something to look out for? Should I prefer an original Panasonic get it or do replicas synonymous?
Brands such as Ansmann or Hähnel are generally recommended. I have a "Noname" of Reichelt ordered. Cost about $ 20, I thought, therefore, he would be synonymous gut. Now I am annoyed, because he after a short use in the performance collapses, therefore unreliable. But generally it's probably not original, if not the cheapest on Ebay purchases.
Gruß,
Markus
Reply Bernd E.:
... Devices that are actually for sale in another European country is technically no difference ...
If the camcorder is not in question for sale in Germany or the EU was (not the abbreviation "EC" is), it can be quite technical differences. There are, of Panasonic cameras for the Eastern European market, where German Menusprache as missing. Some have an additional synonymous DV input, where the EU model for customs reasons, only one has DV output. That would be the case in Switzerland for the imaginary GS180EK.
Gruß Bernd E.
Reply Markus73:
... Devices that are actually for sale in another European country is technically no difference ...
If the camcorder is not in question for sale in Germany or the EU was (not the abbreviation "EC" is), it can be quite technical differences. There are, of Panasonic cameras for the Eastern European market, where German Menusprache as missing.
Ok, that I did not, thank you ...
Some have an additional synonymous DV input, where the EU model for customs reasons, only one has DV output. That would be the case in Switzerland for the imaginary GS180EK.
The contrast was obvious to me. Except that this particular version never here as "Europe version is offered, probably from this very reason. What I've seen to date, were overwhelmingly equipment for the UK market (abbreviation EB) or even several Eastern European countries without DV-IN.
Gruß,
Markus
Reply MFH-W9:
Good, has a link viewed? Is there any place to hook up on that a few more stickers draufgebappt, I can not see anything. And yes synonymous ultimately not very much about it is what I think is not very nice ...
Mfg W9
Reply Markus73:
Good, has a link viewed? Is there any place to hook up on that a few more stickers draufgebappt, I can not see anything. And yes synonymous ultimately not very much about it is what I think is not very nice ...
I've just viewed. GS180 is GS180, I would say.
The only thing that surprised me is that this camera is still there at this price. You will probably since a few months ago are no longer built and since then the price within a few weeks of almost exploding. Apparently it's now back down ...
I do not know where there might be a hook. False are you doing with the GS180 sure nothing. The stickers are in my way, synonymous drauf :-)
Gruß,
Markus
Reply MFH-W9:
So,
the Cam is now ordered and should be the week * * froi
Still wanted to thank you again for your help, echt super!
Well, I just think about the Zubehört after. Cassettes, I will be a 10-pack at Amazon (for 25 ¬ or so). A battery should I still seek. But wanted so synonymous have a video light, but again because I know not what I should pick you and ask for advice
If just a plug for his own and Battery have. Who has given a tip or suggestion?
Mfg M-9
Reply C.I.W:
To 2nd Camera Battery:
I have a bought of Hama. I think I was at 50 ¬ + -. Works flawlessly.
Reply C.I.W:
To 2nd Camera Battery:
I have a bought of Hama. I think I was at 50 ¬ + -. Works flawlessly.
PS: The Sticker, I can remove, but you must langsamm, so that the adhesive remains synonymous with going down.
Reply MFH-W9:
Have now 180er, einfach geil:)
Many many thanks for your help. Have not yet all too much filmed, but so far I am fully satisfied.
So, now ¬ 150 for accessories.
¬ 25 for 10 tapes and 50 ¬ for a Battery, makes 75 ¬.
Have compatriots because Cam did not fit so well in my old bag, but. As a result, 75 ¬.
I would still like a video light and a "fish eye" fetch. Can I add someone to say something?
Mfg M9
Reply Bernd E.:
Have now 180er ... dignity ... I still like a "fish eye" fetch. Can I add someone to say something?
http://forum.slashcam.de/suche-panasonic-nv-gs-180-objektive-vt44489.html
Gruß Bernd E.
Reply MFH-W9:
Good, I will probably now get the following things:
Fish eye:
http://cgi.ebay.de/0-42x-KCW-042-Fisheye-Weitwinkel-Fischauge-Digital_W0QQitemZ230155085617QQihZ013QQcategoryZ31174QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Lamp:
http://cgi.ebay.de/Kompakte-Zoom-Videoleuchte-30W-10-20-Fotoleuchte-OVP_W0QQitemZ190136851655QQihZ009QQcategoryZ15449QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Battery:
http://www.camcorderakkus.de/ -> Item: Battery for Panasonic NV-GS180 2160mAh
Perhaps synonymous with the 1440 mAh, wg times must the dimensions look to be indeed synonymous net too large.
What say ye to the Choice? If shipping something with a little over 150 ¬ and thus affordable for me. But if the quality is always not to go, then my money is already too bad for that.
The fish-eye, I have chosen based on the thread, which I kindly Bernd E. White has been made. Therefore, it should probably be ok. The light I'm not quite sure. So if I have the lamp on the back burner have (ie 10W) as it is worthwhile at all? Wusstenämlich not forget it or have not thought that the duration of such lamps are not very long. So at 30W peak power lights up the part only half an hour. So I just wanted to know how it looks with 10W, then it would already 1.5 hours. Can I imagine as little about the search and I have unfortunately found nothing.
And the battery seems to be yes noname. Is something of discouraged? 2100 mAh is what ever, would not be bad and then 30 ¬ ... Schaut euch mal bitte him, it can not directly link.
Mfg M-9
