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PC aufrüsten - beste Kombinationsmöglichkeit?

PC upgrade - best combination possible?



Frage von Movie-Peter:
April 2009

Hello,

since this topic already exists, I had tried a few synonymous experience for me herauszulesen, but the last entry is a few days ago.
That's why I ask for your experience and the inclusion of a well currently harmonizing PC system + external HDD.

I want my old PC system upgrade for AVCHD transfer and backup to DVD / HDD (synonymous for viewing on TV) and for subsequent processing to miss.

It may well have a system with Intel Core 2 Quad 4x 3.00GHz his.

It is important for me that chip, motherboard, RAM and graphics card well together in harmony!

Thank you
Gruß Peter



Antwort von Daigoro:

"Movie-Peter" wrote:

It is important for me that chip, motherboard, RAM and graphics card well together in harmony!


For more combination possibilities than ants on this planet, there you have two choices:
- Dell or HP (; not just Medion or other Supermarktgurkenresteverwertrechner)
- The dealer s.der corner, you ne synonymous warranty on the entire system exists.

Depending on how old your current calculator, you can always upgrading to meet tonne - as can still keep keyboard and mouse - with a little luck, the casing, if what's good, was expensive.

i7 seems at the moment rather overpriced.

Generally for upgrading (and if the new complete system but not in the budget's matches):
Brand components take
Components at the same level of performance - a quad with 1GB of RAM is pointless, lame system disk is useless, with no current Billigstboard or down Chipset: pointless, too little power is useless to dangerous, too big is pointless and a waste stream.
For You do not need gaming graphics card - a passively cooled card lower middle class (; brands!) Is better.
External hard drive (n) for backup, but the more (for example, in the raid) is internal, so much the better.
And take brand components.



Antwort von Movie-Peter:

Thanks for the tips ...

Yesterday I have a PC with the following system configuration for AVCHD video editing together:

ATX power supply Enermax PRO 82 + 425W ATX Version 2.3

ASUS P5Q-E P45 S775 FSB1600 PCIe ATX

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83GHz 1333MHz S775 12MB 45nm

2x2048MB Kingston DDR3 1066MHz Kit

512MB PowerColor Radeon HD4650 GDDR2 Dual DVI PCIe Dual-DVI

750GB Seagate ST3750330AS Barracuda 32MB SATA2


Somebody has an identical or nearly identical in configuration operation?
If you are of suggestions for improvement, then I take this love to!

Gruß Peter








Antwort von soahC:

I work with a similar system:
- Mainboard: Asus P5Q
- Processor: Core 2 Qouad Q9550
- 8Gig GEIL Black Dragon Ram (I can only recommend, and in general it would be foolish in the current prices are not equal to 8Gig upgrade! Whether you are from an advantage of DDR3 Ram draw I venture to doubt, but I may be wrong)
- Hard and have always been, I recommend Western Digital (at the moment have 5 WD plates inside, in my life, I am still not broken)
- Graphics card: XFX GeFroce 260GTX (do not know the Radeon, NVidia am a loyal customer:)
- Otherwise I would still be a reasonable guess CPU coolers. The Intel cooler is not the yellow of the egg
- And the 64bit operating system will not forget
- Whether you are in the graphics card and the processor with a 425er, I would get power synonymous check again (but more than 500 need not be)



Antwort von Movie-Peter:

Thanks for your tip with the RAM memory.

Have just seen that these 8GB of RAM for 80 euros gets ;-)))
Of course, then all slots equally synonymous equipped!

For graphics cards, I know I niocht so good, but I know that I at least want to have dual DVI to 2 TFT's operate them.
HDMI should be synonymous course and at least 512MB of RAM!

The Enermax PSU is synonymous for 525Watt - not even an issue.

MS Vista 64bit is synonymous with order and possibly Magix Video Deluxe 15 Premium.



Antwort von Daigoro:

"Movie-Peter" wrote:

ATX power supply Enermax PRO 82 + 425W ATX Version 2.3

ASUS P5Q-E P45 S775 FSB1600 PCIe ATX

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83GHz 1333MHz S775 12MB 45nm

2x2048MB Kingston DDR3 1066MHz Kit

512MB PowerColor Radeon HD4650 GDDR2 Dual DVI PCIe Dual-DVI

750GB Seagate ST3750330AS Barracuda 32MB SATA2


The Board does not DDR3 (if that is me ausgespuckt Google has), but huge speed advantages of DDR3 are not synonymous.
Kingston goes completely the 'ValueRAM' - hauptsache brand memory - all the "OC" "Gold" "Superduper" series offer a maximum speed of homeopathic benefits.
8GB and 64-bit operating system would be ne idea

graphics card, ok, if it is http://www.preis.de/produkte/PowerColor-Radeon-HD4650-SCS3-512MB-passiv/256177.html.
I would not actively gekuelte card, if you do not want to play. For the graphics cards performance (unfortunately) quite irrelevant, since no manufacturer which promised support for GPU's encoding has been provided.

CPU Cooler like I said above, one should take what better.
Scythe Mugen (which is good, a bit more expensive) or Thermaltake TMG i2 (good budget cooler) - your ears will thank you's.
The Boxed Cooler are long not as bad as earlier and, thanks to temperature control fairly quiet at idle, but under load will start to se s.ganz schoen turbines.

The Enermax power supplies are very good, the 400 should be for the system, but if you plan more plates / optical drives clean build (can be cut at his computer ever be), I would advise synonymous to 500s.

Harddisks synonymous: WD or Samsung (I like at the moment prefer the Samsungs, but the WD are synonymous ok).
And s.besten the same 1TB Model - 1 usually faster than the kleinerne and 2 not much more expensive (from her sometimes GB price) 3 then you have a cable almost 'up' evidence.



Antwort von Movie-Peter:

UPDATE:
"Movie-Peter" wrote:


ATX power supply Enermax PRO 82 + 425W ATX version 2.3 (or 525W)

ASUS P5Q-E P45 S775 FSB1600 PCIe ATX

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83GHz 1333MHz S775 12MB 45nm

Thermaltake TMG i2 Heatpipe Cooler

GEIL 8 GB DDR2-800 Quad Kit (GB28GB6400C5QC) CL5 5-5-15 PC2 6400

1024MB PowerColor Radeon HD4650 GDDR2 Dual DVI PCIe Dual-DVI

1000GB Samsung SpinPoint F1 32MB SATA 2 7200rpm

(MS Vista 64bit + Magix Video Deluxe 15 Premium)





Antwort von Movie-Peter:

"Daigoro" wrote:

The Enermax power supplies are very good, the 400 should be for the system, but if you plan more plates / optical drives clean build (and may at his cutting machine ever be), I would advise synonymous to the 500s.


Will see how the situation develops ;-)

2x 1000GB HDD External HDD 1x and 2x DVD and BR ... it will certainly work closely ;-)



Antwort von unodostres:

If DDR3 is used MUST be a 3er Kit so you notice the speed difference. So either 3x2GB or 3x4GB or so.
Otherwise günszigeren prefer to use DDR2. But not necessarily with the 800 but something to Prozi Passt. I use DDR2 RAM 1033er

Review even before that if your GEIL memory is supported by the Board. I know that it so often problems.



Antwort von Daigoro:

"unodostres" wrote:
If DDR3 is used MUST be a 3er Kit so you notice the speed difference.


If you are with 'remember' do, with the benchmark according to his memory to be able to measure, you do right.

If you are with 'Remember me' mean that something like this in the application notice, then a maximum of 'homeopathic' - my favorite word in connection with computer performance.
Degrees at its Quad CPU with 64-bit operating system in the video editing seems more memory (8 or 16 GB instead of 6 or 12) with the lowest possible latencies bring more than triple channel.

(Bit off topic, but: There was times ne investigation long ago of what some computer magazines, where the user only s.ca. 20% overall difference between the faster and slower the calculator could be distinguished.)



Antwort von Movie-Peter:

Thanks for the tip.

Take 4x 2048MB DDR2 1066MHz.

How important is the graphics card?
Is a HD4650 or would prefer a 4850?



Antwort von Movie-Peter:

Hi,

must again seek ;-)
Except for the graphics card as far as everything is put together on paper:


ATX mode power supply Enermax 82 + 525W ATX Version 2.3
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P P45
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400 4x2.67GHz 1333MHz S775 6MB 45nm
Thermaltake TMG i2 Heatpipe Cooler
GEIL Black Dragon 8GB Kit DIMM PC2-6400U CL4-4-4-12 (DDR2-800) (GB28GB6400C4QC)
Graphics? - ATI 46xx or 48xx? With which runs the video applications redundant?
1TB Samsung SpinPoint F1 32MB SATA 2 7200rpm
(MS + Vista 64bit video editing program?)


Can we improve something s.System or better yet save a few euros?

Thanks for hints and tips.

Gruß Peter








Antwort von Daigoro:

graphics card is currently no preference.
The promise of video encoding on the GPU to run so far are still mere promises.
To decode everything s.ner ATI 3xxx or Geforce 8200 soon enough.

Take what passively cooled.



Antwort von Maui:

s.welchen components should be geared for now? I'm no specialist in this field.
video card, cpu, hdd, memory ....???
I'm in the moment synonymous on average superior to my new computer up to XDCAM EX material of my ex3 quickly with liquid premiere or after effects and editing.
what cpu providers to offer more to this? amd (2 x4 Phenom 955) or Intel (i7 920) - have heard that there are large geschwindgikeitsunterschiede admissible, because the processor utilization of the internal interfaces is different.
How much RAM: 4, 6 or even 12GB DDR3 ram?
how far (and) supports a newer graphics card to work faster?
what's with hdd? at the moment, I am using a built 7200U/min

Many thanks in advance for your help



Antwort von Bruno Peter:

Quote:
For the graphics cards performance (unfortunately) quite irrelevant, since no manufacturer which promised support for GPU's encoding has been provided.


Well, with the PowerDirector 7 Ultra and recommended to the NVIDIA graphics cards does the final encoding.




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