Have now switched my television and surprisingly a message on the video of ProSieben HD discovered; I could not believe when I read the abdominal binder, which announced that s.15.2. HD Channels are available! And the very short term without any announcement, despite the fact that the series "Eureka" as HDTV broadcast was announced.
Not only as a camera man and producer but as a pure consumer synonymous, I am full of confidence and conviction on the HD wagon train and got home for a PS3, an HD-DVD Player and Humax HD Receiver with Premiere HD purchased because the existing SD television on the big 42-inch screens just do not look good. And now, as soon as everyone at home is a device has to be broadcast in 2010 to break? Can not really understand. Especially this year, all the HD-predicted breakthrough, as many now (forced or voluntary) will buy a flat screen. And there is HD ready already minimal standard. This is like a Penalties Missed!
Apart from the fact that I now have 2 Premiere HD Channel and Anixe have the Humax box gets little food. Even if no ProSieben HD HD broadcast, was the picture but much better, because the compression is not as Building hochgedreht like was that you could count the Splinting. I had my choice in this program designed per HD, simply because the more fun or less pained eyes has. Sounds a little superficial, but it is so.
Anyway, ProSieben & Co now believe that HDTV is not as developed as expected. A huge step backwards, in my view the prestige and the technical quality of ProSieben advantage diminishes somewhat. Must we now on the same level as in the RTL and buntgefärbte mutants Stadlober-ARD and ZDF issued (?), For this technical innovation also pushed the year 2010, while the Americans have for years HD diet may enjoy?
But perhaps the Germans are synonymous own fault. While many 500 again for a beeping cell phone with apple logo issue, nobody seems to be a better Picture daheim s.Television interest. Why is that? Because you do not like the television to the mobile striking Querstellen to the disco can take? *
Perhaps all the channels go back to black. Maybe yes then grows with the demand for some progress.
In this case, first all punished in the future and have invested in HD, because their equipment is no longer fully or no longer used. My HD-DVD player will probably soon the same fate as my Betamax recorder suffer, because it eventually no longer exist replenishment. HD-DVD will soon yes the tap off. At least there is next BlueRays. A small ray of hope ....
I do not watch much television, but when, I put emphasis on quality. And even if the content is wrong, should be the least appealing his Optics. What do you think? Stimulates the only forward to? At least, that traders in the video - and TV industry, this should be a little interested.
Antwort von theorizee:
I would say - do not panic -- At the moment there are enough customers stop, because the price is wrong, yet we blithely weiterproduziert in HD, which still leaves hope.
Antwort von smooth-appeal:
Why do we need HD synonymous when it almost never is broadcast?
That was before it and this is now. I personally have only HD equipment invested in the future to secure halfway Page to be my own recordings and "fair" to be able to play.
Personally that's enough for me pleasant-looking picture on my large tube in the living room.
Does my opinion is much better than SD material on HD displays.
Antwort von Pianist:
"rptelevision" wrote:
What do you think? Stimulates the only forward to? At least, that traders in the video - and TV industry, this should be a little interested.
I am personally not so much because my little films for television but intended primarily at fairs and other special events are shown. And then yes, I can clearly specify what the booth for technology to be installed. The very worthwhile, and therefore the change was correct. And even on PAL format has reduced a significant qualitative leap result, because I came of Beta SP and Digibeta the same era have been omitted.
Matthias
Antwort von Pianist:
"smooth-Appeal wrote:
Personally that's enough for me pleasant-looking picture on my large tube in the living room.
Does my opinion is much better than SD material on HD displays.
Just so I can see the synonymous. Fortunately, there are still some good tube TV, even with 16:9-tube.
Matthias
Antwort von der lachende dritte:
Hopefully all remember now slowly Tro ** el, that you are with HD-ready and the whole HDV Gedo just a pawn of industry. Ich finds super and s.besten is that, until high definition in D. prevails (if any), all previously purchased equipment already outdated and are decommissioned. But is no preference ... after all the publicity that you said yes without HD is no longer able to live and even get PAL yes eye of cancer and brain shrinkage ... LOL ... please next power so, otherwise there is nothing to laugh more.
Antwort von Kay:
Well, that rumor's been longer the HDTV off Pro7 wanted. At least there have been internal talk. But we must not stop to remember that the "store" is a company which is mainly Wirtschafltlich think. The few "user" HD itch really watch the bosses of the shop did not. If so can save money, then make the initial das if doing so can earn money, then it will switch. And who has already NEN HD receiver? Honestly? Pufvolgen Grandma and Grandpa Bräsigmann definitely not. There are always exceptions, but that is probably still very rare. The public thinks we need more übrigends, the HDTV broadcast start to pull in front and not until 2010 to start with. Docus now want to have in HD. What I finally ne intelligent HDCAM zulengen could. HD rulez:)
Antwort von Kay:
"the laughing third" wrote:
... get PAL yes eye of cancer and brain shrinkage ...
Tja. Apparently some have already ...
Antwort von weitwinkel:
na because I am glad that I last year a new tv bought and converted'm of 4:3 to 16:9! gabs and although as a phillips 32'röhre with HDMI input always cheaper, as I had access to synonymous continue the current TV picture to be able to enjoy ... synonymous the HDV material looks very good because of it. gruß cj
ps. until 2010 can I best to wait and Better LCD TVs, procedural and send players hope.
Antwort von r.p.television:
"smooth-Appeal wrote:
Why do we need HD synonymous when it almost never is broadcast?
The thinking of course, and most prefer to buy an old box again. However, if the people were also held back, we would still have SW-TV. Can not understand this somehow. For PC & Mobile is the two-year rhythm upgedadet to Megapixel & ringtones in mobile phone and PC Gigaherz haggled. Only the good old television, each with the quality of the 70s satisfied. Since the Germans are somehow backward.
I was always dirty video. Because of its size and contrast to the lack of resolution. Finally, renewed and it does not seem to be interested.
It is of course true that on an old 32 16:9 television most SD diet (if they are not so strongly compressed as many stations) looks good. I personally wanted me but not as a big box in the living room that is 70 centimeters in the room rises.
"the laughing third" wrote:
Hopefully all remember now slowly Tro ** el, that you are with HD-ready and the whole HDV Gedo just a pawn of industry. Ich finds super and s.besten is that, until high definition in D. prevails (if any), all previously purchased equipment already outdated and are decommissioned. But is no preference ... after all the publicity that you said yes without HD is no longer able to live and even get PAL yes eye of cancer and brain shrinkage ... LOL ... please next power so, otherwise there is nothing to laugh more.
You seem to you so very wise to keep the whole market has understood. I do not think it very appropriate to deride people who invested in the future, so people like you later dumped get what other yesterday for the zigfache have done. These spotters are the same people who are constantly on cars & drivers angry, but because every little as passengers themselves invite. There are always changes in technology, so are not to understand. Were all around with a Betamax video system synonymous idiot? I wanted to stop me, not every week, two porn films from the video here. The mass, however, and therefore has the shitty VHS dominated the market and better quality with everything suppressed. I was not forced to switch to HD, but I was simply tired of the old quality. And because of the pawn industry: as stupid herd animals, I can not not be stamped, because if you go by statistics, I'm more of a Herdenausreisser, the grass on the other riverside tastes better.
Antwort von K.-D. Schmidt:
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na because I am glad that I last year a new tv bought and converted'm of 4:3 to 16:9! gabs and although as a phillips 32'röhre with HDMI input always cheaper, as I had access to synonymous continue the current TV picture to be able to enjoy ... synonymous the HDV material looks very good because of it.
ditto
Antwort von weitwinkel:
@ rp television: "Goods every time with a Betamax video system synonymous idiot? I wanted to stop me, not every week, two porn films from the video here. The mass, however, and therefore has the shitty VHS dominated the market and better quality with everything suppressed. I was not forced to switch to HD, but I was simply tired of the old quality. "
yes but if you by the looks and media markets, the current TV picture on this cool new LCDs, I could not watch say yes, because it is a qualitative step backward would have been ... gruß cj
Antwort von Axel:
HDTV comes. The train is rolling already. But rather not with the ear on the tracks lay, it is already some eingenickt about it. Or has already ereifert so that the blow hit him. Now for adding more hardware HDTV set is a bit of a hurry. If it is there, that's true, the stuff is long outdated.
Antwort von Pianist:
"Axel" wrote:
Now for adding more hardware HDTV set is a bit of a hurry. If it is there, that's true, the stuff is long outdated.
That's why I voted for a solution which when I assume that in the coming years, not so quick to stand in the shade is. And since I left simultaneously from the tape, I have spent even less than I was ten years ago would have been for a Digibeta camcorder and a Digibeta-MAZ must spend.
Matthias
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
This is so knowledgeable yet least discussed ... who on the issue would like to laugh at times, may be heise forum read statements like this pearl of wisdom:
"A professional in the Heise Forum" wrote:
Wow, that has but one idea:) The fact is that for over 10 years, all programs are recorded in 1080p. The Content is not expensive and the bitrate of the current range transmissions ÖR loosely synonymous to H264 HDTV broadcasts.
Apart from HD will come. The individuals are the guarantee only temporarily, until they paid someone to invest ... BG, Andreas
Antwort von zuschauerin:
"Pianist"
"smooth-Appeal wrote:
Personally that's enough for me pleasant-looking picture on my large tube in the living room.
Does my opinion is much better than SD material on HD displays.
which is nothing to add!
"Pianist"
"smooth-Appeal wrote:
Just so I can see the synonymous. Fortunately, there are still some good tube TV, even with 16:9-tube. Matthias
this is true (unfortunately) not. there are only very few remaining stocks. s.einer certain (rather small) size and 16:9-devices for the production of röhrenfernsehern worldwide (!) forever (!) is set. that is probably for the first time in the history of technology, so that the industry makes a radical cut, but the flachmaten offer for the manufacturers and dealers only advantages: lower costs, fewer failures, less mass and volume etc.
but the eye remains on the track ...
... because, at least in Europe, no significant opportunities for the brave new technology there, because the sh *** flatscreens are - in no instance - for SD in either PAL or SECAM.
but it is too late! ! !
Antwort von HeikoS:
This would be synonymous am interested to know which tubes you mean: The last "good" tubes have been later than 2004 / 5 from the program made. "Good" because I am therefore of the quality of my 82er Philips in Comparison to my 72er Siemens of 1996'm pretty disappointed. Ultimately it was only an oversized computer monitor, which with all sorts of technical gadgets and image calculations, the video was made palatable. Accordingly now artificially affects the Picture ...
Antwort von r.p.television:
"weitwinkel" wrote:
@ rp television: "Goods every time with a Betamax video system synonymous idiot? I wanted to stop me, not every week, two porn films from the video here. The mass, however, and therefore has the shitty VHS dominated the market and better quality with everything suppressed. I was not forced to switch to HD, but I was simply tired of the old quality. "
yes but if you by the looks and media markets, the current TV picture on this cool new LCDs, I could not watch say yes, because it is a qualitative step backward would have been ... gruß cj
Because I give you of course 100% right. Of course, a deinterlace inflated and signal to the most middling scheisse from LCDs and even convinced it is less expensive. For the latter, it is then no longer s.schlechten panels and deinterlacer, but because a PAL signal to 42 inches simply inflated the air runs out - especially when the signal is heavily compressed. As you can see what the first stop in SD for a quality hundsmiserable send. All the more annoying I find it just now so that the light ausknipst ProSieben. These are just this year, the HD-capable receivers cheaper. Now of course people have much less incentive in the HD technology to invest. Sun will continue to have no standard to define the prices are cheaper.
Antwort von Stollwe:
Can this be the synonymous with the issue related to copy protection? How is because HD material at Pro7 via satellite will be protected? Question this because I just have a Minority Report HD Fernsehrip of Pro7 HD've seen ... maybe Hollywood can not release the material until the entire transmission (like HDMI) is protected?
Antwort von theorizee:
This can not only be but it is so. The same thing is going HD-DVD so that BD + Bluray with the race makes.
Antwort von WoWu:
Quote:
... Hollywood is perhaps the material is not released until the entire transmission (like HDMI) is protected?
The release is not the problem, but of course only to the regular license and the price depends on the amount of viewers and are available at the (clear) Distribution profile of P7S1 a lot. Perhaps the program of the German sender buyers now look at the funnel, not just the junk from the USA shop, but once synonymous with European content creators shop. Until now, the colleagues of the purchasing program boniert so that you always said ".... we deny our content from international treaties ...." Now they are around the ears .... klasse flown, I can only say. Congratulations. Hopefully they come in the contracts in a few years no longer purely because others they have bought up ...
Antwort von Bernd E.:
"weitwinkel" wrote:
... if you ... the current TV picture to send to this new LCD screen sizes, I could not say yes because it is a qualitative step backward would have been ...
That is the point of synonymous to me to think there: HD is the future and a qualitatively high picture on a big screen is certainly impressive. At the moment, but is the whole system of broadcasting to the receivers too much in its infancy, as large as that one would like to invest.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Quadruplex:
"HeikoS" wrote:
Accordingly now artificially affects the Picture ...
The Philips is running in the factory setting?
Antwort von naside-88:
HD as a "standard" not really worth it, the HD picture quality is only at certain Programm-/Filmtypen what the eye. For example, the nature of film can be worthwhile, but the newscaster makes mE in HD is no longer synonymous ago. HD content costs / requires more, especially in the transmission. In the existing transmission channels and especially in the HD cable networks can actually really only at the expense of other, existing SD-Programs are sent. The range is - still - is rather limited. It is but with the expansion of networks and increasing compression increase. FullHD will in the coming years, primarily on the disc come into the house. New flat screens up to 32 inches can now SD recordings look fairly decent to good play, often better than older tube equipment. For larger flat panels, however, will be critical.
Antwort von Pianist:
"Anonymous" wrote:
New flat screens up to 32 inches can now SD recordings look fairly decent to good play, often better than older tube equipment.
Then make me look a proposal with which 16:9-flat device (may be synonymous smaller than 32 inches be) I PAL TV with a good overall impression can look. When I traveled through the electronics markets go and watch the pictures, I would like s.liebsten no new television buy. But perhaps I have the right not yet seen. For me it all looks totally grützig from.
Matthias
Antwort von naside-88:
"Pianist" wrote:
Then make me look a proposal with which 16:9-flat device (may be synonymous smaller than 32 inches be) I PAL TV with a good overall impression can look. When I traveled through the electronics markets go and watch the pictures, I would like s.liebsten no new television buy. But perhaps I have the right not yet seen. For me it all looks totally grützig from.
Matthias
Unfortunately, SD is no longer synonymous, making it the purely terrestrial ÖR times times was. The private address is still at least a portion of the program with lousy bitrates (or lousy quality?), Which appears on the bottles very well to be visible. Since the program is lousy image, advertising sometimes significantly better. This is even on my tube so that still the best SD picture delivers. In addition, the signal now has X running stations and distributed and will be changed. In the markets, the devices are often poor and / or on the demo images of the Manufacturer with little movement and a lot of color set. Look at times, Philips, Sony, (Samsung) - in that order. Take s.Besten a DVD with its own material with known and most with their own settings. Goes well with a smaller s.Besten Dealers. I have since 2 years a 32 inch tube and had in the last 2-3 years from time to time an opportunity, several flat screens of trademarks (and others) in various sizes for a few days / weeks to try out. The quality has improved in my opinion, this time clearly improved. Also the change of analog to digital has apparently at least in the picture quality of the ÖR helped. The difference is tube to my flat with an optimal signal / Material now minimal.
Antwort von Pianist:
"Anonymous" wrote:
Unfortunately, SD is no longer synonymous, making it the purely terrestrial ÖR times times was.
Unfortunately das Schlimm it was here in Berlin a few years ago, when the head of the cable networks have been digitized. Since the data rates were so low that you correct pixels in crossfades seen, sometimes remained Picture are completely synonymous. So, still in DVB-T, one of the worst inventions, since it is television.
Later, the quality of the cable TV again but better. It is just not good, digital image signals to various times and convert it to low data rates to use. Ultimately, I would like the few programs that I regularly see in the chart of acceptable quality. Only I am always amazed at what other people are for "acceptable" hold. Television digitalization and flat for me in any event, not necessarily a step forward.
People who regularly go to the movies, on this subject have a similarly rigorous way, as I think. Must be really compared s.den possibilities. Now I have the news or the Lindenstrasse not cinema quality, but the picture should be on a certain way, "pleasant," to appear, so smooth surfaces should be smooth (without artifacts) and detailed areas appear to be synonymous show these details without compromising on sharp, rauschig or muddy them. But I fear we are as an insider simply too sensitive.
Matthias
Antwort von naside-88:
At 8-10 channels at 8 MHz bandwidth can only be worse.
Antwort von naside-88:
"Pianist" wrote:
... DVB-T, one of the worst inventions, since there are television ....
I do not live in D, we run 4 digital channels on 8 MHz (terrestrial) and the image is on both my CRT as synonymous flat screen is better than with my analog antenna signal (60 dB). But you did right, of course. If you are 30 years professionally with television images employing schaut has perhaps synonymous to exactly the way :-). With the many influencing factors and the commercial television is the picture today, or rather an optimization task.
Antwort von Quadruplex:
"Pianist" wrote:
When I traveled through the electronics markets go and watch the pictures, I would like s.liebsten no new television buy.
Typical case of the event - because it's in the shops generally much brighter than in the typical living room is, the manufacturer adjusted. The factory settings are completely exaggerated and aggressive. For this reason, in the clever test magazines (mostly) optimal image settings - such as in the 'audiovision'.
Even if current LCDs are now passable - black, they may still not. Dark picture to see lots of things still and flat, milky-turbid from. For this reason, I stole all of the LCDs remain.
If you really only goes to SD, I would like to have a simpler look at Panasonic plasma (with 1024 x768 pixels). If FullHD it to be: They have at CES for the U.S. announced new models - which are expected to follow soon synonymous in Europe to get his. On the German-Page Panasonic is quite a lot: http://www.panasonic.de/presse/detail/ct_detail.aspx?newsID=676ae1bc-6ad5-4ff2-b314-744260c451eb&refer=recent
Antwort von Jan:
HDTV Television with PAL 576i material - because yes, I must give you fairly.
However, if you are a true HD chain used is a tube TV mercilessly unsuccessful. But you should not synonymous old technique used.
Many now have times older LCD devices often with 50 Hz, and grouse about the bad movement representation.
My tip - SonyKDL 40 & 46 X 3500 AEP 100 Hz LCD Television with HD material look. No, not on a 576i PAL Recorder & Player of the signal must inflate. Zb a Blue Ray player ala SonyBDP S 300 with HD material to use. A multitude of TV & Hififoren are synonymous enthusiastic.
The case is currently quite expensive, which I will sometimes. Well this will change with the times. Stop making money for the industry.
Yes, the picture settings are often completely off like contrast, brightness and color (no time & no desire of the seller?) In our markets, LCD devices have daheim synonymous a very different picture.
VG Jan
Antwort von HeikoS:
"Quadruplex" wrote:
"HeikoS" wrote:
Accordingly now artificially affects the Picture ...
The Philips is running in the factory setting?
No.. That was really cruel. Have him in the service menu sensibly adjusted (reference: Hardwarekalibrierter Eizo) Comparison to my 10 years old (!) Siemens is in the score he has been unsuccessful: Black value: In the bright daylight disturbs picture tube, which glows in the dark black, when in the vicinity of a high level drawn. Black and white transitions will be gray-white. Uneven-color: Page The left has a lower color temperature than the right. This is especially in SW images. Artefact formation (blocks) although all Bildverbesserer off. -Kammartefakte for me only to have to understand that the monitor no longer represents interlaced natively. -synonymous due a lower resolution (median filter) than my old television, which is fortunately in its 100Hz mode, only the large area flicker is reduced, ie in AaBb mode. The Philips offers this mode is no longer, a further indication of its non-interlace Nature (angry that the tube of the Philips s.sich-sharp crack is much longer and could dissolve, as it then by Signalverbiegung arrives) Double contours (ghost images) s.feinen lines, due to a non-deactivated image processing circuit. miserable-drawing in the lights. Even if I have the contrast is reduced to a minimum, it outshines in areas which are on my old TV still have reasonable drawing. This effect particularly skin tones quickly and artificially overexposed. Quality of glass: clear to recognize the unevenness of the piston, so that dark stripes on plain surfaces are visible.
And the times called himself top model among the tubes ....
The latest generation of Pioneer plasma at least, now provides that, synonymous with SD material fed to a better and more coordinated Picture.
Gruß, Heiko
Antwort von Quadruplex:
"HeikoS" wrote:
And the times called himself top model among the tubes ....
OK - that sounds really not so great. And the last I 16:9-tube TVs of Philips not have such a bad memory.
"HeikoS" wrote:
The latest generation of Pioneer plasma at least, now provides that, synonymous with SD material fed to a better and more coordinated Picture.
