as I said in the near future, some projects would be cut in HD, I have before me a HD-LCD Television as monitor zuzulegen. With the PC I will connect it via HDMI with the Blackmagic Intensity card.
During the regular work, I have a tip-top tube video monitor (price: about 10 000 euros). I know that the basis of the figures in LCD TV may not recognize. So - how about this: Have a good camera, the very color photos. I photograph so the color bars and (now do not know how to get the calls) sharpness bar (?) Of the 10 000-euro-Monitor. And burn the two graphs on DVD. In the shop I then compare the photos with the LCD television pictures, where I play the DVD. The television, the colors and sharpness s.nächsten coming, but actually have a very good television, or? However, all of which are otherwise set in the store, how do I set it as?
Moreover, I have that they have a HDMI - DVI-input and (stopgap) have a good reaction time (2-5 ms) and full HD resolution Was. Right?
Another question: Prefer a television, the 50i or 25p can? Or both? What is the standard for HD? As far as I know but rather 25p .. But I have been synonymous of 50i LCD TVs belongs.
perhaps for you rich, is already favorable to ¬ 3400th - available. It has very many parameters to adjust, a part of it is just about the hidden service menu.
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Pete quite honestly, have you not made slightly too much? The problem is not just that your two monitors / TV look the same, but that Your Picture synonymous to other devices (outside of your sphere) as well come over. There are painstakingly prepared and color conditions, the synonymous to your workplace, light temperature, etc. Include with. Since there were already discussions (search engine). Adapt your monitor so s.Besten on the destination, for the films you make. Because you should you decide ... for tubes or for Flachsmann. For both targets, there will be a perpetual compromise remain. Find yourself a good monitor, where you (usually via a look-up table) can influence the parameters. My recommendation: Receive no TV devices, because there are now so many extra features, there is the Picture visible influence without it later on your recording again. This is slightly as you would in a recording studio many heights (or of me synonymous bass) in Abhörweg raise, so that it sounds great in the studio .... What you do in artificially interception / monitor increase is obviously not on the recording ... elsewhere then hears the inevitable no longer so great. So, you like such an "honest" monitor. If you want something really good, look here: http://www.eizo.com/press/releases/pdf/CG232Wpr.pdf (Is it only in January) Or EIZO 24 "ColorEdge CG241W-BK It is of course synonymous easier: TVlogic LVM242W Synonymous Remember that you are between TV-(tubes)-device and a monitor that you hang s.der BM did well just 6-10 maturities have different images ... is no such direct comparison. Times I'm curious to see what you decide ... but that, with the Still Image, let the times be ... this brings nothing.
Antwort von domain:
"WoWu" wrote:
Adapt your monitor so s.Besten on the destination, for the films you make. Because you should you decide ... for tubes or for Flachsmann.
That is the crucial point. Consequently, the tube is equal to times forgotten. And one course already synonymous: all Bildverböserungsroutinen with a TV for an assessment must of course be turned off. With an impending purchase of a HDMI-capable TV monitor "I would therefore only make sure that his picture at normal TV broadcasts to the standards, which could be synonymous sell a normal unit, if the main parameter for Picture in a good set may be sufficient (especially in a good Durchzeichnung lights and shadows). The idea with the reference photos is no oversight because sometimes color is not the active screens have brightness of the color space and thus may not close.
Antwort von Pete21:
Sure, a tube monitor, I suppose for HD of course not. Since I am in direct comparison already get an HD video monitor (3500 euros) and a HD Television (400 euros) have seen - and the picture looked almost identical, I would rather a HD television for little money here. I do not need a high-end device, and I do no advertising in the run movies. And the tube monitor at work do not belong to me, that is synonymous not have such large claims. The Television will halt only a reasonably sharp picture show true colors show and full HD resolution Was. I think there could be for 500 euros but with security already get something useful.
Then stay me yes but only the technical data and Controls, is not it?
Antwort von Quadruplex:
Guckst here: http://www.videoaktiv.de/Artikel/PRASENTATION/Einfach-riesig.html In short: The plasma wins ...
Antwort von tatita:
Hi,
I will soon me a MacBook Pro growth and am still in search of a 2nd screen for your home. I would like if possible screen for the color correction to use. What should I purchase because the look out for? I think I have a couple of reads the 50Hz to do, and why?
Antwort von domain:
If you are under the general title "Screen" ev TVs for my monitor should be 50 Hz in any of the normal case and 60 Hz in our latitudes rather the exception. The question is whether your Grafkkarte the 50 Hz display recognizes you or the 50 Hz playback via the PC to force it. The Intensity card for a second display but after WoWus statement about the 6-frame delay in the real-time preview rather a joke and thus ever to forget. Of course you can color with all the "monitors", where there is the problem lie?
Antwort von WoWu:
.. perhaps as a complement ... The delay in the image you see of course only if you, for example, an analog monitor to a parallel Flachsmann server that otherwise is not next to ... and it is of course synonymous not only the map ... HDMI carries a large part.
For a possible choice ... see above. It always depends on what claims you s.eine Color correction is experience and what you have.
In relation to the MacBookPro is the question, which one? If there is a Young is, you have a need MXO.
Antwort von domain:
Do you mean to say that I have with the intensity and jog shuttle for about a quarter of a second would have to wait until the next frame up? Did this just for me with Full HD and HDMI testing. There is none 6-frame time delay between them but no more than 1 / 6 of the time of a frame, that is almost immediatly (in 1/25/6) sec. audible click appears at the next picture.
Antwort von Pete21:
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Guckst here: http://www.videoaktiv.de/Artikel/PRASENTATION/Einfach-riesig.html In short: The plasma wins ...
I am looking for no Television, which is a particularly good picture making, but one that shows me how the picture really looks like.
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The question is whether your Grafkkarte the 50 Hz display recognizes you or the 50 Hz playback via the PC to force it.
When I look at the BM Intensity card that I need not, of course, the TFT s.der graphics card connected. And the intensity with which it works.
Although I have an analog video monitor, but I only have the SD A - an A / D converter, via the FireWire s.PC connected.
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Of course you can color with all the "monitors", where there is the problem lie?
With all the video monitors, perhaps, but as I already said I am looking for a HD television, the video monitor as I want to use, since the price / performance ratio with a high-definition TFT video monitor is absolutely miserable, because they are of the average medium-sized TFT-HD -Television in the quality hardly differ.
Okay, I hold times: - He should have HDMI - TFT - 50 Hz - 2 max. 5 ms response time - Konstrastverhältnis no preference, if I'm in a room where no light stört (that's me)
There still remains the question as to what I can see whether the Television me relatively true colors, so if he ever for Color correction to be used.
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Domain
That would be great if the frame would be only one ... You can get out, s.welchen points of the route each picture must be saved. This begins with the conversion to HDMI transmission over TMSD and then at the demultiplexer in the sink is another Picture. In your BM, you have therefore determined 3 frames. Hang it out in parallel with an analog TV off and let images run times ... Then it goes to your monitor. The first times it grabs the scaler s.and deinterlaced and it takes a couple of necessary corrections. So another frame. Now it depends on what your monitor so organized. This may Syncabtrennung, or clamping, or the copy protection detection. Everything is on the internal 60Hz converted to, a place Bewegunsanalyse and if the well should be, is not a single frame of this. The Spacer is it a uniform color conversion, for example YUV to RGB and a time-synonymous base Correktur here, to the separation of front-end to be achieved, because LCD and plasma only a very narrow frequency range offer, so another frame. Think you now, however, the signal was now all processes durchlau-fen, it deceives you again because after the scaler and de-Interlacer still follow various procedures for image enhancement: These include algorithms for noise reduction and to improve the sharpness and Luma Peaking how-and Chroma Transient Improvement (LTI / CTI). That can now all sorts of additional means, but faster is the Picture in no case more. If you like Overdrive in the monitor have to rise faster flanks to make the picture that is stored again. HDNI even has a feature called "lipsync" heist. The fact ensures that after the sound right, after the Picture as long as "en route" has been ... as a function you need now synonymous. So, if the synonymous quasi weitershutteln of the image as "immediate" looks, but there are some frames that are in between. And especially, it is just annoying when you have a analog TV stand beside you, on the CVBS signal to them, which is absolutely no Framesore knows best, yet the minimum PAL delay line ... Well, it was not all bad in the same way.
Antwort von hannes:
> Everything is on the internal 60Hz converted ...
this really true? I have understood the data sheets so that 24P, 25P and 30P only "passed through" to be.
If everything is truly converted, it is not meaningful, in 30P or 60i to work? Today's cameras allow so what yes. As with the export function of the NLE's looks is another matter.
Antwort von domain:
"Pete21" wrote:
There still remains the question as to what I can see whether the Television me relatively true colors, so if he ever for Color correction to be used.
Do not know where the problem should lie. If you anyway later on LCD / TFT to your videos will look, then just such a device synonymous for your perfect color match you exactly the right monitoring. Furthermore,
http://www.belle-nuit.com/testchart.html
everything exactly describe how a monitor should be adjusted so with super white and black right values, etc.
@ WoWu Have understood the shuttle retrieved images practically exist already in the cache
Antwort von Quadruplex:
"WoWu" wrote:
Everything is on the internal 60Hz converted
Most current TV run with the clock source or multiples thereof. Simple devices without 100-Hz technology to make 24p sources 48 Hz at 50 Hz 50 Hz at 60 and 60, the 100-Hz-boxes according to 96, 100 or 120 Hz
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Throats but times - and then spit out more beautiful!
Antwort von PowerMac:
The Quato 240m for HDTV, the new Eizo CG241W the JVC DT-V24L1 or something expensive of E-Cinema. Also possible: the Marshall V-R231-IMD. Similarly in 3000 to 10,000-euro offer league Tamuz and TV Logic. For broadcast applications, Panasonic is quite popular in Germany, especially its "BT" monitors. They are more likely located at 3000-5000 euro. Sony Can only s.5000 euro seriously, anything everything is crap in comparison to the competitors.
It is synonymous just a cheap LCD (via HDMI from the DeckLink) of media market. Thus, it is home to the people. The LCDs and Plasma are so packed with additional features Bildverbesser that it is worthwhile for 500-900 euros to buy any box, just in the latest television test won. However, new devices come out constantly. As is the winner with the best picture for consumer probably a good choice. A good overview: http://www.mpec-gmbh.de/dv/_herstellerlist/monitore/videomonitore/all.html
