Frage von Mountaineer:
Hello Beloved,
I'm absoluder Beginners, I have only pictures.
Now I would like, mainly for the holidays to buy a camcorder.
I thought s.einen with hard drive and memory card, but then I read in an article, if I then cut the film, etc. .. wants
would be a mini-DV (tape) better, since this procedure is still every Picture
stores and therefore easier to edit is.
Can you take a advice, what direction should I pursue?
In Manipulating understand I have a header, after clamping and before each new day, a fade which can be seen.
I hope I have expressed myself clearly enough.
Grüßle
Mountaineer
Edit from Mod: thread under the heading "camcorder purchase advice" postponed.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
Beginners absoluder am ... ... for the holidays a camcorder times ... Can you give any advice in which direction should I pursue? ... Hard disks and memory cards, camcorder in this category, I was not previously interested in next, so I can say little about this. But perhaps it would be helpful if you have the choice sometimes it defines, by establishing what a good piece may cost?
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Meggs:
but then I read in an article, if I then cut the film, etc. .. wants
would be a mini-DV (tape) better, since this procedure is still every Picture
stores and therefore easier to edit is.
The material from the mini DV tape is synonymous of quality than the MPEG komrimierte more of the hard drive / memory card.
In Manipulating understand I have a header, after clamping and before each new day, a fade which can be seen.
In practice, when you still post other requests arise.
Antwort von Mountaineer:
Hello ...
I would have cost me a framework to put the 500 Euro.
Grüßle
Mountaineer
Antwort von der henne:
Outside holiday = = = daylight = 3CCD Panasonic GS320 + WW-Converter
Antwort von Mountaineer:
Outside holiday = = = daylight = 3CCD Panasonic GS320 + WW-Converter Is there something synonymous with more zoom?
Or then suffers because the picture quality?
Grüßle
Mountaineer
Antwort von Markus73:
Is there something synonymous with more zoom?
Or then suffers because the picture quality? Firstly, yes, and secondly, what do you want with more zoom? Have you ever viewed in real terms, how much is 10-fold?
With high zoom captures you ignorant buyers, nothing else.
Gruß,
Markus
Antwort von fantomaz:
Is there something synonymous with more zoom?
Or then suffers because the picture quality?
Firstly, yes, and secondly, what do you want with more zoom? Have you ever viewed in real terms, how much is 10-fold?
With high zoom captures you ignorant buyers, nothing else.
Gruß,
Markus Hi Markus,
I already have a digital camera s.meiner optical zoom of 10-fold.
That's why I wanted to s.meinem camcorder already more than that
Or is that not the same thing?
Grüßle
Mountaineer
Antwort von robbie:
No, you can not compare. Both camera are you doing A Picture. With a video camera at 25 frames per second. And now hold your video camera 10Sekunden times so quiet that you have 10x zoom with no wobbling see. I do not accept that you have a tripod with you ...
Antwort von Markus73:
I already have a digital camera s.meiner optical zoom of 10-fold.
That's why I wanted to s.meinem camcorder already more than that Why? For "normal" everyday life situations is completely unnecessary. I own a GS180 with also 10-fold zoom. I think more than to 5-fold-it attitude, I have never been sensible use of some gadgets apart.
Basically, that is only for Optics A focal optimally can be corrected. Therefore, zoom lenses are always compromises. The larger the zoom range, the more luminous and go figure performance in the basement. The 32-fold Superzoom lenses of cheap consumer cameras seen synonymous, I can well remember s.die color bleeding, which produced a small Panasonic, which I'm a few days here had.
Apart from this: For such zoom, it is not possible without a peaceful Tripod Picture to get.
Good cameras can usually recognize that they just do not have excessively large zoom range.
Gruß,
Markus
Antwort von Mountaineer:
Hello ...
many thanks dear for all the suggestions.
Fortunately, there is such a forum, which otherwise I would have hoped
the completely wrong camcorder purchased.
Grüßle
Mountaineer
Antwort von kayburg:
In your budget you get already a HDV Camera - eg SonyHC 5th I think that you are better served than with a Pana - synonymous when these 3 (seeehr small) has CCDs.
Antwort von Markus73:
In your budget you get already a HDV Camera - eg SonyHC 5th I think that you're better served [...] With all the HD-hysteria that currently prevails everywhere: I would not go so far and a beginner, who himself writes that he wants and sometimes (still) without too much right something on film, and a lump sum equal to an unconditional HDV device advice without the detailed facts to know.
Standard PAL systems (in particular, MINI-DV) are far from dead and neither is HDV, the system of the future!
Gruß,
Markus
Antwort von der henne:
Standard PAL systems (in particular, MINI-DV) are far from dead and neither is HDV, the system of the future!
My speech. Personally, I would have something like s.liebsten only my GS320 with a progressive mode and a HD, like a Fire doors just as the computer records at the plate. I do not understand why all the need to record in MPEG2, probably just about as large recording capacity on the box print.
Antwort von kayburg:
In your budget you get already a HDV Camera - eg SonyHC 5th I think that you're better served [...]
With all the HD-hysteria that currently prevails everywhere: I would not go so far and a beginner, who himself writes that he wants and sometimes (still) without too much right something on film, and a lump sum equal to an unconditional HDV device advice without the detailed facts to know.
Standard PAL systems (in particular, MINI-DV) are far from dead and neither is HDV, the system of the future!
Gruß,
Markus As for the "Beginner's" so busy, I do not understand - or drivers you recommend a car synonymous with only 2 seats and a small trunk?
The fact is that the HD recording principle and detail of quality is richer than the SD recording. I would be a HC 7 anytime a GS 230 / 320 etc. prefer. I had even 2 years keep a GS 200 - which has really only under absolute ideal conditions made better pictures than 3 years older SonyTRV 11 E. In enclosed spaces and in inclement weather, the larger the chip Sonyden 3 small chips to the Pana lengths ahead.
Synonymous, but the fact is that HDV is not the "ultimate" future standard will be - that there is never. But in the osBudget (~ 500) is no longer there and there is, in my view, the HC 5, the better choice.
I walk times assume that the questioner is not in 2 years before the same problem would like. In one to two years to be HD ready or Full HD TV devices of the standard - and not later than are people with a tube television in a 4: 3 format absolutely exotic. Sure you can flatscreens synonymous to the old SD recordings play - but then you sit and do it constantly it could have been better (personal experience - 2 years ago bought SD Cam - a year ago purchased LCD device - 2 months ago bought HDV Cam ... since then no more SD Cam touched - now second (additional) HD Cam Cam bought and sold SD)
Antwort von Markus73:
As for the "Beginner's" so busy, I do not understand - or drivers you recommend a car synonymous with only 2 seats and a small trunk? I have neither one nor the other recommended, I have only said that I do not generally on the "HD-to-any-price" train would jump up, without knowing more details.
In the Dir of 2 years is called HDV, perhaps in favor of synonymous AVCHD or what ever again the same as today s.absteigenden Branch Mini-DV. The idea may have something better, you will always exist. Mini-DV is a proven and robust system, HDV in its current form, I see as a transitory phenomenon with uncertain future.
And when you consider that with the above 500 EUR perhaps less than an HDV Camera could be realized that to meaningful work but still Batteries, Tripod, Filters, Bag, possibly editing software ... should expect, then it seems to me much more useful with the limited budget A COMPLETE with standard definition equipment to purchase and to learn, so technically good recordings to make, as with the last euro HDV Camera to purchase high-resolution and will then botch to produce, because Money for the necessary accessories missing.
That sounds bad now, but it does not mean it. I say this as someone who is always with this kind of "amateur films from the relationship is anguished. My opinion, therefore, good and careful work is far more important than HD. Both together is of course even better, that's true :-)
Gruß,
Markus
Antwort von kayburg:
... And when you consider that with the above 500 EUR perhaps less than an HDV Camera could be realized that to meaningful work but still Batteries, Tripod, Filters, Bag, possibly editing software ... should expect, then it seems to me much more useful with the limited budget A COMPLETE with standard definition equipment to purchase and to learn, so technically good recordings to make, as with the last euro HDV Camera to purchase high-resolution and will then botch to produce, because Money for the necessary accessories missing.
... My opinion, therefore, good and careful work is far more important than HD. Both together is of course even better, that's true :-)
Gruß,
Markus There remains the question of how far the aspiring filmmaker on vacation s.die purchase of such things thought - was the top issue of 500 for the Camera ...
But I am of the opinion that he with the HC 5, the camera gets better - despite 3 CCD ...
Have you ever tried beyond a cloudless sky and not in the middle s.Tag with a GS 320 to film? I think it is not a bad camera, but the words "3CCD" in this class is more a marketing gimmick than a technical advantage.
Antwort von Markus73:
Have you ever tried beyond a cloudless sky and not in the middle s.Tag with a GS 320 to film? With the 320, but with my 180 (should be comparable), several times longer synonymous sequences in closed rooms with problematic Lighting. Here I had some direct comparison to a small Einchipper of Panasonic (GS20). The GS180 is not as bright as the older cameras a few years ago, but it provides a relatively full picture, the lengths to better than that of the Einchippers.
At least within the Panasonic devices, you can see the difference (if only s.den 3CCDs is, I do not know) that I was painfully aware, as I have a wedding video from the recordings of the GS20 and the GS180 had cut together. Especially in bad light had the Einchipper major problems with the colors and image noise, while my GS180 is still not very much noticed.
Gruß,
Markus
Antwort von Meggs:
or drivers you recommend a car synonymous with only 2 seats and a small trunk?
Why should you agree with an recommend a sports car drivers?
Antwort von stef08:
Why not?
When it comes to "dead drive" is synonymous enough for a duck ...
