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Orginalakkus vs. andere Akkus

Vs. original battery. Other Batteries



Frage von Klausi2000:
März 2007

Hello,

I want to buy my replacement battery and have of course - as probably all - a look at the prices on eBay is thrown.

Comparison to about 190-220 ¬ for a normal original Canon Battery (BP-945) products can be found there for only 20-30 ¬ ... apart from the fact that these batteries might not last long and quickly exchanged, it is in any case a huge price difference.

1) Are there reasons against the use of these Batteries speak?
2) Is there a danger that the camera is broken on it or is just scaremongering from the original manufacturer?
3) Are there any brands Noname companies? => I think therefore Manufacturer with a good reputation is still cheaper than the original are?

Thanks for your info!
Klausi



Antwort von Rene K:

safely from the model-dependent. I have panasonic compatible battery with a very good experience.

www.akkuinternational.de



Antwort von Peter06:

1) No. The price difference does not justify the minimally better quality.
2) scare.
3) I do not know.








Antwort von Matze60:

to 3) Varta, Ansmann Hähnel

There are differences everywhere, the techn. Details of lithium technology, you can watch on wiki ..... BP-945? if you for the new XH - Series want to buy, look synonymous according to whether they really fit.

ghost



Antwort von AndreasBloechl:

I use in my digicams always of Hähnel and run fine. Also, the TRV 33 of Sonyhat so no problems with Sony Always caution. The Batteries Of Hähnel have even a year longer warranty than the originals.



Antwort von tv-man_sh:

In so-called low-Batteries are usually not high-grade cells, which leads to the Battery in Batteries Comparison to cells with high, often after a very short time s.Kapazität lose. Also it can happen, which is cheap Batteries in a shorter time, "vacant".



Antwort von Cameron:

Thank you once ... My Conclusion: Manufacturer Buy Batteries others!

Klausi



Antwort von aef100:

Hello,

I have ordered the Panasonic GS320 and now wanted an extra battery Battery international order.
Unfortunately, I am faced with the problem that I do not know what I should take.
To something better would be to be able to compare me with some helpful information.
What is the capacity of the original battery, and how long you can cut in so that "work"? How long will a 1360 mAh Battery-ca?

When the battery is internationally 320er in the compatibility list is not listed. Can I still assume that the 300 Batteries synonymous in the 320er fit?

Danke schon mal in advance.

MfG



Antwort von Peter06:

know the consumption of the GS320 is not exactly but with 1360 mAh you'll get a good hour.



Antwort von arionworks:

Hello

The GS320 is a 640mAh battery with it. Maturities of Batteries you can see the user guide. The stands on the Panasonic site for downloading.

I have downloaded a Vivanco BP 1637LS increased with 1400mAh, which works flawlessly.

Greeting
Peter



Antwort von aef100:

Thanks for your help. I have now for the 1360 mAh version decided. Should rich.
Now I need only enough motives and situations on holiday, so I can use the camcorder.

MfG



Antwort von seven21:

Where can I get the Ansmann Batteries Hähnel her? Is there a larger online store?








Antwort von Jan:

Yes when you get to think of Canon goes, one should never
Fremdfimen use.

I would be synonymous but the fingers of the cheap Ebay Batteries (5-10 ¬) can partly be cheap already charging built. I had time for a professional Electrical Battery training director of a company known as that gave me the complete Battery explains, and provides 8 enumerated disadvantages of outsourcing - it was quite confusing for the non-Diploma Electrician - only professional Chinese (redox potential, ”EN, inner resistance, low discharge)

Yes it could happen that the battery is not as a long lifetime, or not as long as the power of comparable originals (I had often found himself at the CGA DU 21 - almost all contractors are created and only the 1 / 2-3 / 4 of my time). Because of the 21 but synonymous costs ¬ 100, you should really scout for alternatives.

There are even opinions that some contractors last longer than the originals, very well-known example of SonyL Battery NP - F 960th

But it could also synonymous error ends of the film are, Lion Batteries to be used long lying forever leave their life deteriorated dramatically.

When it comes to Panasonic and Canon is known to you and outside (eg Ansmann) go, I see no problem. When JVC and Sony as it looks different.

VG
Jan



Antwort von AndreasBloechl:

I do not think the warranty 2Jahre Hähnel vain if they are not sure which would be synonymous for so long they hold. I can now say jedenfall my best SonyTRV33 clearly comes. I would return to use this product because it is cheaper and just as good as I think.



Antwort von Peter06:

a li-ion battery lives 3 years.



Antwort von AndreasBloechl:

I can not confirm. My Batteries of the Nikon CP885 are already determined 5 years and still running.



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Peter06" wrote:
a li-ion battery lives 3 years.

Nothing on Earth lives forever, but a flat rate so you can not say. The lifetime of a lithium-ion batteries of various factors (eg the number of charge cycles), but one who after three years would have abandoned the spirit, I have not met. Sonyhat times five to six years as the expected life called, and a colleague of me now since turning ten years with the same Sony LiIon batteries. NoName Batteries that total less than original, but is very likely - in the often huge price difference but not an issue synonymous.

Gruß Bernd E.



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"AndreasBloechl" wrote:
I do not think the warranty 2Jahre Hähnel vain if they are not sure which would be synonymous for so long they hold.

This is less of s.guten feeling Hähnel s.der as a legal obligation. And two years is a short period so that it would be very worrying if the battery fails - especially not any Hähnel NoName provider.

Gruß Bernd E.



Antwort von AndreasBloechl:

Already but everybody battery brand like Sony or synonymous with all notebooks is always only one year guaranteed. Even with my Nikon battery is only a year. The same phone.



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"AndreasBloechl" wrote:
... but with every brand battery ... is always just one year guarantee.

Honestly, I have it no more extra attention, since Germany in 2002 the EU directive into German law, according to which the warranty (warranty is actually something else, if one synonymous in everyday life both in a pot raises) when commercial sale s.private two years s.Lieferung end user is not below. Exceptions are only in a private sale or second-hand goods.
As a non-lawyer, I can in this case, therefore, only assume that the battery manufacturer may be only a year for its products, the dealer would have to espouse, but Hähnel voluntarily for two years doing. Compared to the retail dealer must be two years or so to make sure that the battery is working properly.

Gruß Bernd E.



Antwort von Markus73:

Hello,
"Bernd E." wrote:
Compared to the retail dealer must be two years or so to make sure that the battery is working properly.


Just do not synonymous is a very common misconception! The "full" warranty is exactly 6 months. Moreover, only if the customer can prove that the defect already existed at Purchase. In practice this is nearly impossible.

See for example here:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gew%C3%A4hrleistung

Guarantee, however, is a fully independent and voluntary performance of the manufacturer, the law is not regulated.

Gruß,
Markus








Antwort von AndreasBloechl:

Exactly it is Markus. The same, it is synonymous with other matters such as ext. Synonymous panels have only one year and internal 3 or more. Since you have to really watch.



Antwort von FelixBernhard:

Quote:
This is less of s.guten feeling Hähnel s.der as a legal obligation. And two years is a short period so that it would be very worrying if the battery fails - especially not any Hähnel NoName provider.


Hiho

plus one, in particular to Batteries.

Batteries of any kind are consumables!
That means no preference whatever Manufacturer / Distributor is from a strictly legal situation None warranty or other obligation!

The life of a pure Li-ion batteries is approximately 210 to 250 charge cycles (average purity, the cell phone batteries do any statistics pfutsch here: P).

ghost



Antwort von AndreasBloechl:

Notebook Batteries are excluded but there already, right? The various opinions should be according to 1000 cycles cope.



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Anonymous" wrote:
Batteries are consumables ...! That means no preference whatever Manufacturer / Distributor is from a strictly legal situation None warranty or other obligation!

Since I like to know where the law is laid down! Faith's, I can not in any event. Thanks but s.Andreas and Markus for the clarification.

Gruß Bernd E.



Antwort von Pianist:

"Anonymous" wrote:
Batteries of any kind are consumables!

Unfortunately, this is so, therefore you have to regularly with new acquisitions always account. My first eight Nickel-Cadmium Batteries (SonyNP-1A), I have used 1994 of a cameraman bought it used two years and always has good restentladen. When I have more then proper treatment again until 1997 held a total of five years. And now comes the Hammer: All eight Batteries are s.gleichen day. That what I call a small manufacturing dispersion. Then I have eight of IDX NP-23dx bought, which had the capacity of the SonyNP-1B. These eight synonymous Batteries have again four to five held, but not all of equal length. Currently I have four NP-1DX of IDX from the years 2003 and 2004, which so far show no weakness. The new camera is then nonetheless reveal four fette Lithium-Ion Batteries of IDX, where you said to me that probably no longer hold as long as the old one. I would but since reluctantly fette BP-90-Batteries ranmachen, which are really too hard.

Matthias



Antwort von Markus73:

"Anonymous" wrote:
Batteries of any kind are consumables!
That means no preference whatever Manufacturer / Distributor is from a strictly legal situation None warranty or other obligation!


Everything you buy is ultimately something of a consumer and wear.

The warranty (from manufacturer) has already voluntarily and must not be granted.

The warranty (Jur term "defects") is guaranteed by law and therefore can not be restricted (for Virgin). That your battery over time decreases, is in the nature of matter. Is it within the first 6 months do not show up, it takes the course of the dealer warranty and he is not with "wear" to talk to.

Dispute is just exactly where the boundaries between "weaker" and "broken" lie. And just to live from the lawyers :-)

Gruß,
Markus



Antwort von topgun:

"Peter06" wrote:
a li-ion battery lives 3 years.


I can not confirm synonymous. My BP945 s.XM1 holds since 1999!
Topgun



Antwort von Pianist:

"TopGun" wrote:
I can not confirm synonymous. My BP945 s.XM1 holds since 1999!

That is good news, hopefully this is true for the pro-Batteries as well. I would dislike every two years for 1,500 EUR buy new batteries. And I do not synonymous reports on the life of large Profuktionsfirmen and broadcasters do, because with the material simply is not as good as I deal with my own stuff.

Matthias



Antwort von Jan:

You must be careful as hell when a company 2 years at the Camera there, this means less than 2 years for the Battery.

In the photo industry (where I work), it is depending on the manufacturer 0-6 months for the battery to give, so there's really belongs to the company Batteries 0 days guarantee - (if I remember rightly, it was Nikon), the majority are 3-6 months on the battery. But there are companies synonymous with pure 2-3 years warranty on the battery.

That is not the defect in a battery replacement, the company never makes it retains at least to decide for themselves how much the customer entgegenbringt truth.

If I do the wrong battery, with a budget for my sake, I can charge the battery synonymous already achieved in a week (overcharging & overheating).

Casio has zb synonymous of me 4 L-ion Batteries (3x broken after upload - red light flashing at the right) immediately exchanged Sonyhat however quite long refused a similar action.

VG
Jan








Antwort von AndreasBloechl:

I have three NikonCams and can not confirm. To my knowledge there are 1year, and the of my D50 was synonymous for a recall campaign with no problems and great expense and even exchanged against a stronger.



Antwort von jotemwe:

Original SONY Batteries, for example, the HDR-FX7

See eBay 220115312043



Antwort von Fr0stbeule:

hi

Although original battery and a mention of the corresponding warranty as proof of purchase dealer available.

in combination with a bit of the next listed below:

private sale without warranty / invoice / redemption.

not quite fit.

ghost

ps: = italic writing from the first quote above aufgefühten Offer



Antwort von jotemwe:

*

But that fits very closely:

The buyer will receive from private eBay member of the original proof of purchase of a renowned German authorized Sony dealer from May 2007.

Batteries were extra! ordered - however, meanwhile Camera was sold - so that the dealer does not need to take back.


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