| What different time-code?
Question of mann:
Hey folks,
I read just on its Canon camcorder on a Page: "The SMPTE time code module allows the recording of consecutive time code or the events in real-time favorite time code."
I just climb on a DSR 250, which has these options, I believe synonymous. But why exactly?
So time code is running cars as soon as I start with the recording, or will, as an option for special cases, written on tape in a single pass of the tape without the simultaneous recording.
What is then the real-time code?
Danke schon mal in advance for an explanation.
Reply WoWu:
Imagine that you take with 5 other colleagues at a concert. Each has its own time code and maintains its Gusto Camera s.oder change tapes. If you are the material of the 5 cameras in the Post did, the editors mad, because he will not bleed anymore.
But all have a common time code that is synonymous continues when the tape, it looks like a clock and the cutter is looking only at the same time the other tape and he did when the initial synchronization went smoothly, the exact frame of the incision Camera others.
Reply PowerMac:
(...) If you are the material of the 5 cameras in the Post did, the editors mad, because he will not bleed anymore. (...)
Some years ago I had this pleasure. However, there were only four cameras. Some signed free-run time code to record again the other run-time code. Then about 20 time code jumps, because s.and s.ausgeschaltet was. Tapes were made ... The cameras worked in 4:3, only one had letterbox bars inside. A Camera vibrated as it is based on a sweeping staircase stood. Fantastic. The lowest common denominator was just crap.
Reply WoWu:
Alter Schwede, which is really bitter ....
Reply mann:
Achsooo - just like the name says ... ECHTZEIT Code runs next synonymous when Cam stops. So we recommend that this principle, real-time code when recording with 2 Cams (eg one for the intermediate cuts) - at least if the O-sound to be maintained, for untergelegtem Voice-kanns yes no preference, as I see it.
Reply WoWu:
That you can see right ... Of course he is synonymous well, for example, in the NEWS people synonymous document the time to "stamp" .... So not only the continuous sound to ensure a chronology but synonymous.
How stupid the example may be synonymous: For reports from conflict zones have been better to reproduce the sequences. And much more ...
Reply PapnMartien:
.... have a question:
So if two cams on the tc freerun is made, must be done synchronously so ...(??). But as I have two warring Cams synchronously started?
Reply PapnMartien:
But as I have two warring Cams synchronously started?
This goes from basic physical reasons: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativit%C3%A4t_der_Gleichzeitigkeit
Some cameras (eg, XH A1) can, however, real-time code using infrared remote control Reset. If several cameras side by side, you can with reasonable accuracy at the same time zero. After some time the clocks are, however, further apart.
Reply PapnMartien:
[quote = "Anonymous"] But as I have two warring Cams synchronously started?
This goes from basic physical reasons: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativit%C3%A4t_der_Gleichzeitigkeit
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(Who knows whether Einstein really 100% was right ....)
But why, when, for example, concert recordings with two cams, both in the tc-freerun run if they do not have to synchronize?
Or do you afterwards when trimming in the timeline? Then would the simultaneous running in tc-freerun but not absolutely necessary, because when you cut the pictures with the appropriate sound to somehow zusammenkriegt - or maybe not?
I can not really imagine, and it practically before I can try I would like to have a small, soon held abfilmen musical performance, for me as Uebungsfilm. If, however, in what can reasonably get out.
Reply mann:
(Previous post was of me).
I understood that with the tc-freerun thing is not so in the above contribution of Wowu said:
"Have all but a common time code that is synonymous continues when the tape, it looks like a clock and the cutter is looking only at the same time the other tape and he did when the initial synchronization went smoothly, the exact angle of frame the other camera. "
Can it work with the synchronization or not - or how exactly it must be so that you may be able to work with?
Reply PowerMac:
(...) (Who knows whether Einstein really 100% was right ....) (...)
Oh, beautiful! So you want to discuss theories about cognition! Then you can stop looking. Doubt you s.der special theory of relativity? Or you just doubt the Absolute? What wissenschaftstheoretischem camp do you feel to belong?
Reply mann:
Oh, beautiful! So you want to discuss theories about cognition?
Yes happy, but only when I get my Abi finally have behind me.
So, if one concert filmed with 2 cams-tc-sync is actually announced, but not actually possible, and is, in practice, in principle, actually applied. So I understood the previous papers.
Aaaah because I have just one: it was here (or where's it?) Recently which have a Manfrotto controls read, with the man 2 cams simultaneously starts. Do I have the same time go on a search ....
....'ve found here what: http://www.perspektrum.de/zubehoer/stefra-lanc.htm
(but was not what I had seen, there is still something of Manfrotto, I think ...)
Reply PapnMartien:
.... have a question:
So if two cams on the tc freerun is made, must be done synchronously so ...(??).
I think not.
But as I have two warring Cams synchronously started?
Brauch man doch garnicht. At least not if the sound for the final product is only one source of it.
The petrol Normalverbaucher may include a "Unsynchronität" of a picture at 25 frames per second (ie 40ms) can not perceive.
The maximum time used the cutter to allow an approximate indication has.
The editing programs should then be capable of using the synchronicity of the sound of the camera below to find exactly 40ms.
Ask me not, as this function is called, but the mathematics used for every student learns in the first initial rate signal processing.
However, for both synonymous recordings of the concert the sound audible.
Regards
Lars
Reply disko:
After a short deliberation:
The "Unsynchronität" is even more than 20ms, since a picture to insert either the past or the coming closer. The two (past and upcoming) pictures but a maximum of 40ms apart (at 25B / s).
Good night
Lars
Reply mann:
Do I need but do not. At least not if the sound for the final product is only one source of it.
(...)
The maximum time used the cutter to allow an approximate indication has.
hey thank you! this was exactly what I wanted to know !!!!!
Nice weekend to all that have expressed relating to.
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