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Question of romy:
Mai 2007

Hello,

Now I would like to buy a camcorder. Have s.der Uni schonmal with a Panasonic nv gs 150 worked and was thrilled ... Unfortunately, I am a student and my purse is not so much her ... I can max. 300 ¬ to spend. Sure, the restrictions because I have to do .. But s.was example, you can save?
've Read that it has a 800,000 pixels resolution synonymous doing, but how is it for example with the entrances and exits? A USB connection would I have to s.Laptop to cut it?
And there are good alternatives to Panasonic in this price class? Does she want more for private use, ie trips etc., but I am now holding a little spoiled by the good image of the 150er.
And what is better? An Electronic and Optical Image Stabilization? And how it looks with the 16:9 format? Is this advisable or is synonymous to save?

Many thanks, it help me very next!
Many greetings
Romy




Reply Login_vergessen:

I am not a specialist in consumer cams, but I can tell you that you have no sound through USB interface will be achieved. It is a Firewire / iLink connection is necessary. If, however, I think, meanwhile s.fast each camcorder's standard.

Greeting

Stefan



Reply Wolfpeter-Hans-Dieter:

Savings prefer a little more and buy the gs180 of Panasonic!
The cost of perhaps ¬ 100 is more for a better picture and all the connections you need.
A normal USB 2.0 port does not go to your video with decent quality on the PC to bring you need a HIGH SPEED USB or Firewire. Incidentally, Firewire and USB high-speed pretty much the same.



Reply romy:

Ok thank you first. So I probably need with a Panasonic nv gs 60 First garnicht begin ..
s.welcher is it worth to buy? gs 80, 120, 150 or should I really only s.der 180er look?
Undkennt good experience from their Internet portals, which are favorable?



Reply akinnok:

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Reply Wolfpeter-Hans-Dieter:

So the gs180 is the cheapest 3-Chipper on the entire market.
This is, I think, the best cam in the price range.



Reply Fridu:

synonymous stay away from high-speed usb, is nothing for video transmission of miniDV camcorders, since there are only one: firewire!



Reply Fridu:

and how does this firewire so accurately? Do I have my laptop with what equip?



Reply Login_vergessen:

If your laptop is not too old, is there a Firewire connector. He works as a USB connection, so connected devices are usually auto detected.
I believe in XP is a little editing program (Movie Maker?) Here. Thus it can really begin ...



Reply Wolfpeter-Hans-Dieter:

No, HighspeedUSB and Firewire is practically the same!
Both will be completely without any loss of quality on the PC! However, the Panasonic gs-series HighspeedUSB NO.
If you do not believe me please read the Forum!



Reply Frank B.:

"Anonymous" wrote:
and how does this firewire so accurately? Do I have my laptop with what equip?


If your laptop has no FW, you can retrofit sowas:
http://www.pearl.de/p/PE1513-CardBus- USB-2-0-and-Firewire Combo Controller.html

Frank



Reply Romy:

Vielen vielen Dank erstmal!
My laptop has I believe no FireWire port .. But that is the lesser of two evils .. Bigger is the problem that I just can not decide :-)

The 180er's great, but less than 500 ¬ gibts in any (some serious) providers.
Has anyone experience with the 60s or 80s? What lies between the two of the big difference? And is the quality difference in between 3CCD and 1CCD so bad?


I would like to synonymous camcorder halt at the end of next week, because I then would have an incentive at the same time not short out.
Sat yesterday and today, just in front of laptop to give me test reports, etc. to look, but it's still really difficult to decide, because the 200 ¬ price difference.



Reply Wolfpeter-Hans-Dieter:

This The quality difference between gs series with 1Chip or 3Chips is quite large, video of tests confirm the newspapers!
Alone s.der Preisentwickelung the gs180 but you have to see how good it is, although it is a discontinued model!




Reply Jan:

Just for accuracy, the GS 37, 180, 230, 280,300,320,500 have a USB 2.0 high speed connection and the associated simple editing software supplied, which in 720x576 could be dubbed.

In general, agrees with the 3 CCD, Digital Video Active has the 230er but when combined with higher focal wiederlegt (GS 230 vs. SonyHC 47).

Take no prefer GS 60 GS 80th

VG
Jan



Reply gaby:

Hello, I have yesterday bought the 80 GS, I'm thrilled that I had made synonymous to the 60, but has only 4:3, but we have a 16:9 TV, so my decision. You can get this device, however, almost exclusively on the Internet, from welchenn reasons always synonymous. Very conveniently, there is the T-Online Shop with 279 Euro, but it is only mid-21st Available KW. I have it in me Photo Porst bought, because the offer was for 349, -, have a few euro traded down, then I was almost at the price as in the network and the device was immediately (and Field Service)
I think if you get the equipment for private uses films, she is super, just look at the assessments.
I hope you can decide.
Mfg Gaby



Reply Pixopolis:

In principle, my decision is between the 80 he, the 180er and 230er ...
I just do not stop, whether it is worth it to me, the double pay for the 180er and 230er, if the quality difference is not too great.
So I would give the maximum price of 500 ¬ Not already paid, but only if it really soo NEN big difference between the images are ...

Did someone perhaps NEN short film comparison?

Was already in MM, the handling could be both like me.

Go down action? Does it really so good? But certainly only Porst, or Saturn at MM you need as determined garnicht begin ...



Reply Bernd E.:

"Anonymous" wrote:
Go down action ... or at MM Saturn needs as determined garnicht begin ...

One attempt, it is all worth it! Finally, the two are often so much more expensive than other dealers, because that room has to be.

Gruß Bernd E.



Reply Jan:

Sorry, but a normal customer will be difficult to see, and then only in direct comparison panel next panel.

For video assets, the GS 230 in the sharpness scoring "satisfactory", if I remember quite well was the GS 80 When "good".

This was unfortunately s.einer small weakness of the GS 230 with greater focus, in the current issue is the test.

Even though I am here for my knowledge ¬ null offer, I would only seltents for a customer in the market a movie on your PC Capture and then another test next film compare only right when it comes to 300 ¬ (GS 80) or GS 230 ( 470 ¬) Camera is in Prosumermodellen what is different.

We had a test times in the best stores in Munich made it nobody has a test film of a camera for ¬ 300-500 a customer to Comparison s.dem PC and viewed the 45 & 60 min time. That is 100% if not synonymous Porst Anders.

Please come down from the high horse, their differences could be huge
look at the price range.

I see every day in the company like Casio Model S 770, for example, there are dozens of amateur customers who think the camera to me is so great, I daraufnin poster 3x 20x30, ISO 400, 1 / 30 with Aperture open and made you look true differences in image noise and sharpness (55 & W SonyDSC the ultimate Fuji F 40 FD) which customers previously have never seen before, synonymous its pleasure (the Camera have recommended).

VG
Jan



Reply Markus:

Helps misunderstandings and fears:
FireWire FAQ">1. (b) Firewire or USB?




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