Well, above all the microphones are on the accessory shoe clip-on. What I like very much. Now you can call them as synonymous, but "Reporters microphones use. As is the RMZ-10 s.besten because the cable is s.längsten! "Cable Spiral Cable 0.3 m and 7.5 m cable for use as a reporter micro" Mir, it is important not only to interview people with a micro phone, but synonymous dialogues incorporated (Tonangel), but this is only if the cable has a certain length. So even a Cons for the other two mics.
BUT: The RMZ-12 would have better color my camcorder (HV 20) to adjust. And both the RMZ-12 as synonymous, the RMZ-14, they are both stereo microphones.
The RMZ-10 but unfortunately only a mono.
What would you do, you see every obengenante Microphone has an advantage.
Which of those is s.besten? Experience?
MfG Chris
Antwort von tv-man_sh:
Although I would buy none of these mics, but something else, because you quite an Microphone on the hot shoe would operate. Have you ever measured or sampled, whether these microphones are not synonymous too long? In Wide operation - perhaps even with wide angle converter - you run the risk of quickly in the upper screen area into the Microphone device field of view, if it is on the camcorder is inserted.
Antwort von Nacho:
"UlmsSkyliner" wrote:
BUT: The RMZ-12 would have better color my camcorder (HV 20) to adjust.
I know none of the Hama-microphones, but it is somewhat strange, because good directional microphones are almost always mono. For "directional microphone is less than 100 euro" would be me but two other models invade: t.Bone the EM9600 and the Rode Videomic. For both - as synonymous with the various Canon models - there are some posts in the forum, so you certainly will find a lot of info.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Granny S.:
"Nacho" wrote:
"UlmsSkyliner" wrote:
BUT: The RMZ-12 would have better color my camcorder (HV 20) to adjust.
http://hv20.com/showthread.php?t=827
it just me or is it before the Consumercams of the HV20 s.meisten gepimpt?
Antwort von beiti:
The PMT-10 is sounding pretty good (I have 2 pieces of it and have done so much), but the directional effect is not overwhelming. The other two I know only from reports of other users, they tend to be worse than the RMZ-10's. A budget alternative would be the 9600th Thoman t.bone EM This is in contrast to the Hama XLR connector, which in practice is more stable than the mini jack of Hama. The advantage to you but only mikrofonseitig, because you have kameraseitig again with the mini jack of the HV20 live.
For use directly on the camcorder, the RMZ-10 from today's perspective, less suitable, because most current camcorders are so tiny. On a Model Henkel is just yet, but on an HV20, you'll get a space problem. Consequently you will, to operate on the camcorder need a different model than for the operation s.der Tonangel.
OT: Why filmmakers are thinking about the color of their camcorder, or whether the color of your camcorder and Microphone match, I will probably never understand. Is it here yet about results, or just about, with a combination of cool-looking to be different? Apart from this: When the Micro first with an ordinary Windschutzfell is wrapped (which for outdoor shots usually do not get pass), one sees the color of the Mikros eh nothing more.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
"beiti" wrote:
... Why filmmakers thought ... do ... whether or not the color of your camcorder and Microphone match, I will never understand ...
Since we have two! Reminds me something many years ago s.das offered special model of a BMW, it was only in black and with the argument had been advertised "car tire in color" ;-)
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von UlmsSkyliner:
About T. BONE EM9600 I have already informed. However, it is not possible, it s.die mini jack to conclude, as XLR. But with this camera cable http://www.thomann.de/de/cae_20035_kamerakabel.htm could be s.die Camera Microphone connect.
Otherwise, other micros to recommend that my ideas are / are not under the price of 100 ¬ explode?
Can T. BONE EM9600 s.den Accessory shoe fit?
MfG Chris
Antwort von Bernd E.:
"UlmsSkyliner" wrote:
Can T. BONE EM9600 s.den Accessory shoe fit?
Yes, a bracket is attached (on the Thomann Page synonymous shown). However, the brace is not decoupled, so that might drive noises are transmitted. Since I do not know the HV20, I do not know whether this could be a problem. At worst you would just be a "spider" for mounting.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von beiti:
"UlmsSkyliner" wrote:
Can T. BONE EM9600 s.den Accessory shoe fit?
Yes, but as the same as for Hama RMZ-10: It is designed for small camcorders like the HV20 simply too long. Either you like it encounters later in the forehead, or hang it forward into the Picture.
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Otherwise, other micros to recommend that my ideas are / are not under the price of 100 ¬ explode?
The Rode Videomic would be a good choice for camera mounting, because it is a 9-V Battery eigentlihen under the Micro and has thus at least to the rear is not as long as the others, where a cell Mignon in the extension of the tube in place. For the operation off the camera is the Rode but only conditionally suitable.
Antwort von Granny S.:
"beiti" wrote:
"UlmsSkyliner" wrote:
Can T. BONE EM9600 s.den Accessory shoe fit?
Yes, but as the same as for Hama RMZ-10: It is designed for small camcorders like the HV20 simply too long. Either you like it encounters later in the forehead, or hang it forward into the Picture.
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Otherwise, other micros to recommend that my ideas are / are not under the price of 100 ¬ explode?
The Rode Videomic would be a good choice for camera mounting, because it is a 9-V Battery eigentlihen under the Micro and has thus at least to the rear is not as long as the others, where a cell Mignon in the extension of the tube in place. For the operation off the camera is the Rode but only conditionally suitable.
And me is that I have a Microphone wish that the accessory shoe and I think it fits so synonymous in the hand may be next to people to interview.
The RMZ-10 and T. BONE EM9600 are both mono,'ve read in the forum that a good directional microphone is always mono. But: Will I still somehow the sound on both channels? If otherwise naturally stupid, if during the movie is only from the left speaker the sound comes.
MfG Chris
Antwort von UlmsSkyliner:
Posted above is of me.
MfG Chris
Antwort von Granny S.:
2x = 1x Stereo Mono ;)... 2x the same mono signal is mono, but has two tracks. And a mono for the second copy can be any popular editing program. Professional audio equipment to run quite so ...
Antwort von Markus:
"beiti" wrote:
It is designed for small camcorders like the HV20 simply too long.
That could all directional microphones are a problem, because the shotgun can be for physical reasons can not be shortened. However, you could have a spacer between the camcorder and a microphone installed, for example, a flash Eiger.
If this question is still of some importance should be quite clear the RMZ-10. The other microphones have a plastic housing and thus unwanted body sound more Microphone transferred onto the metal as a corpus of RMZ-10.
Obviously there are better directional microphones and the synonymous use of a spider would not be wrong, but with more money it's always much more synonymous.
Antwort von Granny S.:
"Anonymous" wrote:
2x = 1x Stereo Mono ;)... 2x the same mono signal is mono, but has two tracks. And a mono for the second copy can be any popular editing program. Professional audio equipment to run quite so ...
Nanana, not so hasty that 2x = 1x Stereo Mono is is not right;) Stereo is not always just from 2 mono, but there are often tens merged. Furthermore, the function of the stereo surround, which emits will you give mono on both channels from coming out of two was out, but the stereo is still a long way;)
Antwort von UlmsSkyliner:
Thanks for the helpful answers!
The T. BONE EM9600 has a length of 320 mm. Then stands out quite nicely and looks ridiculous in that! But by the PMT 10 are not much known to me. Do you know how long that is?
MfG Chris
Antwort von Markus:
The PMT-10 is 272 mm long, 282 mm with foam. For outdoor shots in the wind recommend an additional coat, with which also must be factored in - including hair length!
Antwort von UlmsSkyliner:
Okay. Now, I am superior Microphone for what I decide. Hama RMZ-10 or T. BONE EM9600?
