| Why cost HMI lamps more than ten times? / Spare
Question of aight8:
November 2010
If the production costs really so damn IMENS or only produced so few and you know that the film makers will pay this price already?
Because the minimum is 10 times the price for the same light intensity can really only afford the transmitter or rich people.
've Been looking for a replacement. Here I am, of course s.die tubes pushed. They have other advantages. But it is in the Fresnel's not? So daylight is only Fresnel HMI?
Reply aight8:
Here, for example, a Fluoroszent. Gradually dimmed. No heat. Corresponds to 1800 watts tungsten. Daylight! So a very nice main light.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/621491-REG/Interfit_INT482_INT482_Monstar_One_Light.html
Apart of the cool benefits. The price is 20 times cheaper than the same in HMI.
I really do not understand it!
Reply MarcBallhaus:
It says:
"Daylight Balanced - fixture puts out light that is 5000 ° C (± 400 ° K)
So it's answered, no color temperature loyalty and therefore almost useless.
What is HMI s.nächsten is, HQI, where there are several synonymous burner with different color temperatures of 3K2 (incandescent / halogen) to 5K4 (daylight), the only difference m. W. against HMI is that the HQIs Flickerfree are not what is seen especially in HiSpeed shots or short shutter at 50 fps or not 25th Check eBay once, there you will find lots of metal halide lamps.
MB
Reply Korbi:
It says:
"Daylight Balanced - fixture puts out light that is 5000 ° C (± 400 ° K)
So it's answered, no color temperature loyalty and therefore almost useless.
MB
ever measured lamps? ± 400 ° K to distinguish themselves from each arris.
of course you can with the correct ct foil if you know it.
Reply aight8:
So I dare s.flicker lamps ran rather not.
Why then HMI's 20 times more expensive is still not clear to me.
For my film shots, I would like to put different accents for interiors. I have the book "The Chinese of sun always shines down" read, and am now looking to practice appropriate to light.
This said, they must allow qualified light reduction but not yet priced. Which is then processed and some loss of flexibility has, is clear. But I do not need anyway.
Therefore the same for me the tube lamps come in mind. But the Fokusierungsmöglichkeit might just already miss her very much! (You would not just put Soft Light)
ps: inside shots in the average home containing.
Reply Korbi:
Why does it have to be absolutely HMI's?
Reply aight8:
So I myself do not need right now HMI. Only the question because of the extreme price was unclear to me.
I myself want to buy first intelligent Tungsten lights.
Money order possible to spar I thought to myself, I buy instead Flächenläuchten or Fresnel Tungsten Softbox with equal Flurocent with Tungsten-Color Bulbs. Since you already have a relatively strong light for not much money.
Unfortunately there is no Fresnel Flurocent, so I have my knowledge, only Tungsten choice. eg Arri Fresnel. They are very hot and eat a lot of power. Dedolights are very nice but quite expensive.
Are there any alternatives to create beautiful accents to harder? So especially in the spot area.
Reply Korbi:
Unfortunately there is no Fresnel Flurocent, so I have my knowledge, only Tungsten choice. eg Arri Fresnel. They are very hot and eat a lot of power. Dedolights are very nice but quite expensive.
Are there any alternatives to create beautiful accents to harder? So especially in the spot area.
I would be hard for accents s.Ihrer point I think classical s.die hmi or tungsten frensnel-flood light.
Reply toxitobi:
Can someone tell me what is with this light
http://www.thomann.de/de/showtec_studiobeam_msr_575_black.htm
And the light here:
http://www.thomann.de/de/philips_msr5752_lampe.htm
well the bissal 7200K are blue but especially for night scenes / light is the moon already io
How you can tell whether a light is flickerfree or not?
Or is this only when I started with a frame rate that is different than 50 or 25 per second?
Greeting Toxitobi
Reply MarcBallhaus:
Moon scenes? Little blue? The spat are blue, especially in the evening / night because everything else have you s.Licht at night, houses, lanterns, etc., has a maximum of 3,000 Kelvin, as does your lamp like disco light.
Why do you have to get not just NEN light box with 3x800W Ianiros or something similar? Furthermore, I do not think you flood the thing here, or can mock. And by the way she weighs 13kg.
Funny things you do;)
Ne alternative would be if you really want to have natural light, get a few soft lights of Still Image Walser or so, depending on how fast your camera is, do you cope with it. There gibts synonymous ... if absolutely must be farbstabilere remain lit for little money. But s.Set to really turn things not, rather small for tinkering.
MB
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