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Question of RocknRoyal:
August 2008
Hello,
after being under the heading "purchase advice" after reading that I have now decided to "SonyPMW EX1 to buy / bought, I would like now to find out what I'm still useful for my remaining budget can receive.
What I already have?
Calculator: MacPro (2.8), 30 inch HD Display, Final Cut Pro2, 1.25 TB Hard Drive, 10GB Ram (should I upgrade?)
Camcorders: SonyPMW EX1
Tripod: Manfrotto 525PKIT-MV503
Memory: 2 x 16GB SxS SonySBP-16
Sound: Sennheiser K6 Modular System (Sennheiser ME66, etc)
What I miss and what I and others still want? (of course I did not get everything for the price)
35mm adapter
Lighting Cases
Steadicam
Kamerakran
Dolly
more Tonoptionen (Audio recorder etc)
What can I expect my money yet, what are good solutions? Can I see a really abschminken Steadicam? Are solutions to ¬ 2,500 garnicht really be recommended?
Oh yes - I can budget synonymous to increase again around 12,000 ¬ - but since you have to convince me that it is worth * g *
Gruss
Alexander.
Reply maniero:
Those who are, respectively, such equipment and still invest EUR 12000 will / can be included in the matter, that he knows what s.zusätzlichem accessories still useful / necessary / feasible, or at least be able to search it yourself .. .
Reply ruessel:
Can it be that in about 6 months here a lot of stuff needed is offered?
Have never seen someone so naive s.die thing rang seen above ..... (kopfschüttelnd)
Reply raymaker:
I think it is better if more None answered. Smells very much like Troll.
Reply RocknRoyal:
Mhh,
is now the German form of recognition, "envy"? I clearly understand that I am the fortunate position that money in this case a rather subordinate role. Why should I not be safe to buy a must, synonymous with no such expertise - which is synonymous to the acquisition after the endorsement.
A "troll"? ... I would not know what these personal attacks would be justified and would accept the one with these comments unqualified even more is left behind, as those times of just a main equipment, respectively.
Furthermore I know well what I mentioned for the sum can be realized, but I was to model specific suggestions of the listed options.
With kind regards,
Alexander.
Reply Daigoro:
Have never seen someone so naive s.die thing rang seen above ..... (kopfschüttelnd)
So my "favorite" is still the "beginner, the camera a wide searches": D
Or the Secretary with their Ferrari (the 1st journey ended after 200 meters on the curb and with a broken front axle in the garage:).
"Envy"?
I do not think you Russelsheim's Page FXsupport times searched.
The Good has not only lots of toys, but synonymous knows what he's talking about and shares the still synonymous with us. :)
Reply raymaker:
Och yes. Now comes the envy number, and "I can make it stop me."
Such jokers, we have every few weeks. And there's always the same tip: learn basics, and think before you write or act. Then opens it synonymous with the shooting.
Reply taiwee:
Funny why so many of you guys like the Manfrotto 503/525 combo? Do not you experience the drift back with this combo? The Libec 38 beats it hands down ... But if you want get the drag controls Libec 55 or s.least the Manfrotto 519 head ...
Read here if you do not know about the problems of drift back:
http://www.dvuser.co.uk/content.php?CID=150
So what is with the Sennheiser Me66 mic ...
Do not you guys know that the 416 is the standard for Sennheiser and anything under that is just expensive
I'll rather go for the Rode NTG2 ... or a little more get the NTG3 which is pretty much the same price s.the Me66 with power.
Go here and listen for yourself mic which gives a better performance for the price range. http://www.dvcreators.net/shotgun-shootout/
Reply maniero:
You're right, the 503 head is not the true, but I personally think the Libec Tripods synonymous not much better (price-performance is ok) ... I was then, after many tests for the Vinten Vision 3 head decided. But s.den 525 feet, there is nothing wrong or what bothers you s.denen?
How was the synonymous, somehow you have to give an enormous antipathy Manfrotto, since you now within the shortest time in three different threads have criticized the MAnfrottos ... Is there a deeper problem that you want to tell us? Poor service? Umgefallen and is one reason your camera is broken? I would be interested ...
Reply PowerMac:
Video card + monitor: Purchase you a MXO2 and make an Eizo 24 ", the CG241. Then you have a color issue. Next a used-Sachtler Tripod, for anything from 1500 to 2000 euros. Do not buy a crane to borrow one, if he times is needed. Purchase you have a 0.6 or 0.7 wide-angle attachment for the EX1. Do you still too much money, then buy a Dedolight suitcase or two of daylight Kinoflos (4bank, 4 feet).
Reply taiwee:
nothing against Manfrotto ... I love their 519 heads. But for the same price ... I prefer the Libec 38th ..
As for The Vinten, Yap, the vision 3 is really good. Had it with a dsr350 down to a xha1. But how much are we talking about? is it in the same price range with the 503/525 combo?
The Libec 38 for the same price range is better and you have a Libec U.S. dealer that does warranty repairs in Koln ...
sI have used the 503 heads and also owned the 501HDV head. So which I recently sold my Libec 38 for a bigger tripod ...
Well, like I said, these are just my option. You do not have to agree with me. You can just read around what the rest of the world prefers other then the 503/525 combo ...
I'm comparing 1 on 1st
Libec 38 to a 503 or 501
Libec th950 to a 701
same price range ... just telling the facts ...
You do not have to believe me ... We are all old enough to make our choices ...
These are open forum for people to write about their experiences and views ...
Reply RocknRoyal:
Och yes. Now comes the envy number, and "I can make it stop me."
Such jokers, we have every few weeks. And there's always the same tip: learn basics, and think before you write or act. Then opens it synonymous with the shooting.
Hi no one comes with any number, but it has something with respect and netiquette to do and what others here the week of themselves is not relevant for me!
In fact, I can afford it to me, but this is not the crux of the matter - but I did enjoy it and whether / which I currently Equigment the course due to lack of expertise is not in ausreizen approach can, this is uncontroversial, but it should not be synonymous unqualified personal track on here as a criticism of them.
I have a normal question and may be synonymous expect such a response - useful - or it contains are better, because I do not run synonymous stormily to someone who just left the car comes with the words "Have you seen the just R8've bought that is surely a joke, but you always just sneak on the streets ... lern driving ... "
so much about this. Thanks s.alle other ....
Gruss
Alexander.
Reply raymaker:
Och yes. Now comes the envy number, and "I can make it stop me."
Such jokers, we have every few weeks. And there's always the same tip: learn basics, and think before you write or act. Then opens it synonymous with the shooting. Hi no one comes with any number, but it has something with respect and netiquette to do and what others here the week of themselves is not relevant for me! In fact, I can afford it to me, but this is not the crux of the matter - but I did enjoy it and whether / which I currently Equigment the course due to lack of expertise is not in ausreizen approach can, this is uncontroversial, but it should not be synonymous unqualified personal track on here as a criticism of them. I have a normal question and may be synonymous expect such a response - useful - or it contains are better, because I do not run synonymous stormily to someone who just left the car comes with the words "Have you seen the just R8've bought that is surely a joke, but you always just sneak on the streets ... lern driving ... " so much about this. Thanks s.alle other .... Gruss Alexander.
Blablubb. Rumheulerei and justification - more is not in your contribution. You should be somewhat self-conscious manner, as an equal on the defensive to go.
You can expect nothing. None of us will pay for tips. And if a tone a la "I do not have a buck with me the issue, I told her what I should buy", then you need not expect that people in their spare time for you to sacrifice.
The experienced here have noticed. If people like you help to end the rule. in the private insolvency. If you're motivated, you'll shoot through and not make films with "equipment in the cabinet" to learn. I know of one, with the _einer_ HV20, already quite a few thousand euros deserves. You do not need to EX1. (And I only constellation you can laugh. Ne EX1 but spend 12k for accessories?) LOL
This lesson: You should bring at least leave you motivated and is thus employed. Otherwise you will always come back to granite, synonymous in other forums.
Now I'm off: sausages ready, and I have for my Lachbedarf already covered.
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Reply RocknRoyal:
Yes,
I think s.hier is synonymous of my Page no further need s.Deiner Selbstdarstellung .... this is such a needlessly provocative designed .... da sag ich mal gute Nacht "Papa Smurf"! I am not so in the virtual tail comparison, Selbstbeweih .... and the Egopolitur and who was on the box and has therefore believes that a tenant entitled to have unnecessary criticism. - Experience is not a carte blanche in this regard. Accordingly, the teacher probably would have said "set six"! God, how I love this kind ... and we live well in the land of poets and thinkers, but please ... dense s.and not quote me I am not entirely of good and evil .... Thanks!
Alex! The now synonymous with what was grinning ... thank you!
PS: Private insolvency? ... ochje ... 2-fold family father, who maintains a sense of responsibility and certainly not juggle with Money, which would hurt us ... therefore, no head, only more wrinkles ...
Reply Ficeduld:
Ah, but since dear to each other. These threads make it fun and you always learn something about this.
Have a nice evening everyone
F.
Reply robbie:
I liked someone, of whom I've learned a lot, I said, if you do not know exactly what you need, then you do not, or know nothing with it anyway.
Somehow I must remember at the moment, just as Mr. s.den with extra long shoulder of the camera.
Reply B.DeKid:
;-) Robbie
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So for the one (s) Equitment wants to buy, you responded (n), but extreme, only to the comments of some here to enter.
It was not yet really given advice on responding, but only drum rum geschwaffelt.
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As I said in another thread ....
Write a list of the DU zusammenstellung and we will advise you here. Then you send the s.Höndler and verhandelst.
I think this should be the primary route of searches aka the learning process.
That would show the seriously here synonymous with the idea of playing a "semi professional" equipment to buy.
Otherwise, rightly suspected that it is a known troll thread, which will clear the not-so-nots user should perform the one that Money has now will be spent.
It may give people the thread by sollche feel unfairly treated. Understandable.
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Conclusion / Proposal
Write list items and then get help - as much time you should already have - the most you have more time than money ;-)
MfG
B. DeKid
Reply -ssSonyY-:
maybe times here schaun
http://www.movie-college.de/filmschule/index.htm
Reply shodushitanaka:
Perhaps this is a forum for "Syndrome": O)
As in the prison; Whether you're a doctor, lifeguard, retired ... no preference. If you reinkommst, you have the bad guys with no rights, and you'll begrapscht first number zero.
They sit here longer, you're new and there is ever a change to the measuring forces. These are a few "fix-on-the-train-drauf springer" and that can draw endlessly ...
Do nothing but from the surrounding, is funny and most guys here are, despite; O) know very nice and helpful.
Gruss
Reply RocknRoyal:
Yes,
this may be the prison with the theory - it is actually synonymous, the perfectly legitimate one's opinion freely gives of itself and maybe it's yes to Slashcam.de a common term - "Troll" - but I feel it in this context as a personal attack and all in all everything is just exaggerated and arrogant, you have his position, his experience, his knowledge, etc. not so arrogant to the fore play.
As I said,
I know what I, my family and my wallet can do without the sling to come and we must still synonymous times simply treat something if we are prepared according to previously synonymous and synonymous has already learned in the beginning of his career to in waiver to practice.
But true,
I want to be me and yes even synonymous to worry what other purchases, but I thought if I give the key principle: light, sound, Tripod ... you me - based on experience - my model / brand offers specific proposals, so as not to possibly make a bad buy, which is could have been avoided and then listen to "Because you had for your money certainly get better components.
Will the days I now make a further purchase and then with concrete examples of a new try my luck:)
Thank you very much yet,
Gruss Alex.
Reply raymaker:
Yes,
this may be the prison with the theory - it is actually synonymous, the perfectly legitimate one's opinion freely gives of itself and maybe it's yes to Slashcam.de a common term - "Troll" - but I feel it in this context as a personal attack and all in all everything is just exaggerated and arrogant, you have his position, his experience, his knowledge, etc. not so arrogant to the fore play.
As I said,
I know what I, my family and my wallet can do without the sling to come and we must still synonymous times simply treat something if we are prepared according to previously synonymous and synonymous has already learned in the beginning of his career to in waiver to practice.
But true,
I want to be me and yes even synonymous to worry what other purchases, but I thought if I give the key principle: light, sound, Tripod ... you me - based on experience - my model / brand offers specific proposals, so as not to possibly make a bad buy, which is could have been avoided and then listen to "Because you had for your money certainly get better components.
Will the days I now make a further purchase and then with concrete examples of a new try my luck:)
Thank you very much yet,
Gruss Alex.
1. It gives me / us no preference.
2. Do not you people in Internet forums to express your financial situation. Alone who can bring themselves to have high home lost. Whether positive or negative range. It is only an internet forum.
I want to be me and yes even synonymous to worry what other purchases, but I thought if I give the key principle: light, sound, Tripod ... you me - based on experience - my model / brand offers specific proposals, so as not to possibly make a bad buy, which is could have been avoided and then listen to "Because you had for your money certainly get better components.
Oh, because someone has understood about what is at stake? In the first of these contributions was nothing to see and read. But nice if it now has slowly click.
Reply RocknRoyal:
@ Raymaker,
You wanted to offline not long after his own statement? ... your other meaningful freedom of effusions remain uncommented, we finally turn us in a circle ...
Reply Eggerd:
Hello Russelsheim
www.fxsupport.de
geile Page
mfG Eggerder
Reply PowerMac:
You go me on the bag ...
Reply r.p.television:
I would you like other than the Manfrotto Tripod Combo recommend. The head will not swing smoothly.
Since I have long been my desire tripod I can but unfortunately you do not recommend that because I am no longer have more information.
If you are in this budget and the camera size / weight of a crane actually want to buy:
Crane: www.bargain-camera.com
Search the dvc250 the small crane with remote head. With accessories will cost you slightly more than 1000 euros. Is a bit shaky, but easily transportable and quick to build. Believe me: The Transportfreudigkeit such a system is more important than that he is absolutely free loose. The heavy cranes that remain after the initial euphoria in the trunk, because None Bock has pointed him to drag or build.
And with practice you get the same results as that with three times as expensive cranes.
Steady system: search at Ebay for the Indians (eg Cinecity). They have a copy of the 760 Euros for Glidecam Flycam named 6000th A great price for this part. Ideal for an EX1. Payable with Paypal and will be completed within a week after transfer delivered.
Reply Bernd E.:
... I would you like other than the Manfrotto Tripod Combo Recommend ...
Proposal: Manfrotto legs of or Vinten, head but in any case of Sachtler - so are you happy for a lifetime.
Gruß Bernd E.
Reply Daigoro:
it is actually synonymous, the perfectly legitimate one's opinion freely of itself, there
An often belonged Fehlkonzeption.
You seem to think so to your equipment due to lack of experience does not (yet) be able to fully exploit.
More likely is that you totally overwhelmed the stuff (unless you want a few months or years off practice - under s.besten Instructions - before you really films) and the results are grottiger than a 2-3.000 Einsteigerausruestung would ever allow.
The recommended here Sachtler (or Vinten) - super sub - Video Eiger peak. But hast sowas ever seen in real life? Zig buttons that can not be set (/ move: P) * can *, but * must * set in order to work.
And that is a tiny part of the Gesamtausruestung.
HV 30 to nem Velbon: ingericht is basically sufficient to enable you with the essence - such as image composition, etc. Kamerafuehrung deal can (which is already a study in itself) and his own experiences first and then collect information next time.
Regardless, you have your opinion and considerations such as only Stoere.
Reply shodushitanaka:
War has not yet been the secret behind why I am with a little cam to me bored after a month, a year "wasted" and will not directly with a super thick device grow ... But this
More likely is that you totally overwhelmed the stuff (unless you want a few months or years off practice - under s.besten Instructions - before you really films) and the results are grottiger than a 2-3.000 Einsteigerausruestung would ever allow.
have you forsaken me just great food for thought.
Congratulations: O)
Until then
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