have been working for several months with the xh-a1, but only now do the time, the shots exactly on a 1920x1200 display to analyze. Unfortunately, I found that:
interviews when I turn, I went bishher so that I am very close s.die person ranzoome, sharp point, then zurückzoome and choose the actual cut (like prof. manual objective usual).
Here the focus slips every time. the person is no longer in the focus plane. The focus level is about 30 cm behind the person! looks to HD displays from scheisse.
is this a known problem of the xh-s.oder only my copy that? thanks for reply
Antwort von HeikoS:
Can you say nothing about whether it is "normal", but it should be possible to rectify the error. This requires only the Auflagemaß be set. If any specialized workshop in which to be able to demonstrate.
Antwort von HDV Berlin:
thank you very much. have just read with the Canon workshop in berlin phone. who say that it is unfortunately normal for these cameras to focus on the complete zoombereicht can not keep. the optics are too compact and the focus is constantly using a computerized curve nachgeregelt what works so lala.
the method (or earlier) in the max. telecharger sharp area and then to the excerpts to choose does not work. I should choose the setting with the size I want and then rotate the use focusasistent (lupe) around to make manual sharp.
ade controlled zoomfahrten .... tja. pity.
Antwort von Axel:
This is a known problem with manual focus without an external monitor, generally in HD, but in this particular mini-display. Not only is it almost impossible to focus on the LCD / Viewfinder in precisely to recognize, it is impossible. The resolution is not enough. On the other hand, only helps the Peaking Magn button or the button to focus to use. Both can be traced back to the Custom Key links below to program, so they are quick to back off and leave. I was also surprised at how well the autofocus works, provided that your motive is in the center. So fast and precise, like the Instant AF focus, it can be manual and never never, even at relatively low light (for better contrast against the manual). Take 3 meters away from a flower vase, with a wide. If your display is set so that the current distance display, you will now when you switch of "AF" to "M" a "3.0 m" is displayed. Then imagine a piece of the vase next to the rear. For you in the display has not changed, but if you return to "AF" and again back to "M" switch test, there is "3.1 m". Turn back to "3.0 m" and then turn to the Peaking: The contours of the vase are no longer highlighted.
Antwort von Axel:
"HDV Berlin wrote:
have just read with the Canon workshop in berlin phone. who say that it is unfortunately normal for these cameras to focus on the complete zoombereicht can not keep. the optics are too compact and the focus is constantly using a computerized curve nachgeregelt what works so lala.
Right. Pull sharpness when zooming, you can forget it. I would prefer synonymous only a 10x zoom and this is a purely optical Optics.
Antwort von neros:
ähmm, but when it went XL1S. which had the aperture ring to save and where to leave because he was. is there more of these small hidden "bug".
Antwort von harryr.feet:
Yes, the XLS was the among the XMS was never übrigends.
Antwort von HeikoS:
While annoying to hear but:
"Nero" wrote:
ähmm, but when it went XL1S. which had the aperture ring to save and where to leave because he was. is there more of these small hidden "bug".
If the s.genauso would dissolve, then would have moved the sharpness level in the blur of the sensor circuit.
Treasures times in DV mode, the shift is not on, right?
Antwort von jk296:
"Axel" wrote:
I was also surprised at how well the autofocus works, provided that your motive is in the center.
... and nothing moves through the building. gruß cj
Antwort von neros:
So, what allgm times. I am currently very skeptical, had 3 years working with the XL1S and is now facing the question of whether I should buy the xha1. Bin xtremsport underway in the area, so climb MOTOX so fast images, fast pans, etc. voted for the XL1S, the possibility always had the sense synonymous manual focus to draw, now I read more and more negtives about the camera. I had it yesterday synonymous in the hand and it's not so comfortable, because the right side s.der xlr connectors and you are not with two hands can use the objective, but I am left-handed synonymous. the other asking how hd verhällt itself on fast pans and in allgm. at fast objects. synonymous nor have I viewed the XL2 (pictures were not possible, would not the dealer) but still worth the purchase for the next 2-3 years at a pal camera? oh and for the opportunity, someone knows a good dealer in the nrw synonymous times some equipment on site has. thanks you.
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
"Nero" wrote:
(...) I've synonymous nor viewed XL2 (pictures were not possible, would not the dealer) (...)
... and another dealer, who always wonder why people are a mouse-click shopping, great class. This spot is synonymous as a great retailer. Which I would have the 220 euro on the R c ** ****- synonymous price paid yet, only a local contact to have. The FX1 for viewing times of the order wanted synonymous with good cajole not. So what, mouse click and right of return 14 days after Fernabsatzgesetz ...
BG Andreas
Antwort von Axel:
"Nero" wrote:
Bin xtremsport underway in the area, so climb MOTOX so fast images, fast pans, etc. voted for the XL1S, the possibility always had the sense synonymous manual focus to draw, now I read more and more negtives about the camera.
Then it would in any case, the 1080i mode advisable. What you think about fast pans with HDV and its 6, 12 or the 15 GOPs per second? So that fast movement blur. They do not more and not less than in DV. Whether this camera, HDV, or any, for sports photography (analysis) is appropriate, I can not say. Sharpness is pulling harder with HDV, and with the upper derCanonbesonders telephoto range, so
"Nero" wrote:
I had it yesterday synonymous in the hand and it's not so comfortable, because the right side s.der xlr connectors and you are not with two hands can use the objective, but I am left-handed synonymous.
About the Links - Henkel handling of men, I have never thought. It helps that you are in the A1 aperture zoom and focus ring via the menu "reverse" can? That this is possible, shows already that the whole Optics will look only mechanically, while in truth any servos inside the lenses (or even the chip?) Move. As for the concerns, a Blender.
"Nero" wrote:
the other asking how hd verhällt itself on fast pans and in allgm. at fast objects.
About this problem you need not to speculate, because the Mpeg2 compression is a technique that you know. A well-coded Mpeg2 (eg on a DVD) of a DV Sport Video will show you not a bad show movement representation, no smearing, no seekrankmachendes lurch, that's nonsense. The individual frames differ, however, of those of the original DV footage. HDV cameras scan every pixel of each frame, they are characterized not only all.
Antwort von neros:
Hello Andreas and Axel, thanks for the info. That with the right of return is such a thing to me and basically too much work, because I prefer to go to a dealer and I let the cameras and perform this test. Does anyone still experiences with other devices of current Pana made or JVC? Thanks to you. Oh, and NEN Dealers in NRW: o)
Antwort von Axel:
"Nero" wrote:
Does anyone still experiences with other devices of current Pana made or JVC?
If you are good to finally decide for DV 4:3, you can Pana DVX 100 without testing buy. Extremely user friendly, and just synonymous manual, top processed. A real roll.
If you liked Can XL Series (me too little "cell"), the JVC HDV actually an option for you, I have just briefly viewed an exhibition of its type and because of the wish list are deleted.
From the Vertigo limitation aside, the Canon A1, the highest control over the picture, and in this price class indisputably the best picture. Okay for me, since I only staged and controlled to work. Not okay, if you have a lot in gorges and fast rumkraxelst something must absorb. This seems to synonymous not robust enough to be processed.
At this point, when HDV Sonydie ahead. However, when the desirable features succulent and, unfortunately, with prices generally smaller resolution.
Antwort von HDV Berlin:
"HDV Berlin wrote:
have been working for several months with the xh-a1, but only now do the time, the shots exactly on a 1920x1200 display to analyze. Unfortunately, I found that:
interviews when I turn, I went bishher so that I am very close s.die person ranzoome, sharp point, then zurückzoome and choose the actual cut (like prof. manual objective usual).
Here the focus slips every time. the person is no longer in the focus plane. The focus level is about 30 cm behind the person! looks to HD displays from scheisse.
is this a known problem of the xh-s.oder only my copy that? thanks for reply
had with some camera men and many are talking, he thinks that these problems schärfe not be allowed. Hence my question:
someone in berlin the XH-A1 and wants the comparison test with my making. Thus, we could only find out whether my copy of this mackemans or whether it has a model error.
Would be super if someone has time and desire, a few tests to make.
Antwort von ruessel:
I can nix the negative XH A1 Focus s.meiner noted. Here's a little test in a little dark room at 50 Shutter Aperture 3.4.
Test structure: Siemens star in 3.4 meters in full telephoto position auto focus can be adjusted, then the sharpness is set to manual mode and slowly in the direction of Wide Anglegezoomt.
Antwort von HDV Berlin:
deine bilder times have made against each other. for better surveillance.
looks at first glance OK. But between the 3rd and 4 Picture (of left to right) is a huge difference. sounds in the first moment fussy perhaps, but imagine this is the eye of interviewing!
So all seems really XH-A1 to concern. crap.
Antwort von HDV Berlin:
the vase and the yellow box in the background are sharper than the tripod plus siemens stern. looks exactly the same way on my pictures out and I'm not satisfied.
Antwort von ruessel:
Ok .... I have now only to Raufasertapete respected, which is always in focus .... I myself have no problems with it, because I almost always shoot with IAF ....
Antwort von HDV Berlin:
The simplest test is the following (similar auflagemass set):
1. s.den siemens ranzoomen very stern. 2. everything to make manual. 3. make sharp 4. about half of the total focal length zurückzoomen 5. Now about the "manual" focus ring nachfokussieren.
really should be nothing nachzufokussieren, is unfortunately still. and although not at all scarce.
One can see the blur of course only one of the components hanging Port HD monitor. Nix on SD TVs on display.
but I am not the only one with this problem, or?
Antwort von ruessel:
And now? Lens saw off?
Antwort von HDV Berlin:
saw - not a bad idea! well, I am now reassured the one that my cam has no individual errors, but all are. but yes the other hand, is again very enttäschend.
If REC is running, the focus funzt assistant will not go away. in interviews (if the tape must go through) can not even nachfokussieren or change the default size. ! son dreck.
if you are working with auto's obviously not the problem, but other surprises (pumps etc.)
Antwort von ruessel:
Bothers me the red sun in CA actually more .... and the stupid tape drive. Sharpness pumps, I have little gratifying. But what can you even ask for 3000 Euro?
Antwort von rudi:
That with the Auflagenmaß (Incidentally, in the ninth workshop of the world nachjustierbar, but really a problem for the lens design) was already in the XL-H1 a big issue. Canon seems to be calculating Lenses this no longer the highest Prioität set. Supposedly behave synonymous but many pro-HD Lenses not different, because this building would significantly expensive. So pity or stupid it sounds, but you will in future more and more likely of this type of maunuellen focus must adopt. For Zoomfahrten has already Sonyja functions like shoot-Transition "invented", which will surely soon consorts of Canon and copied. With a good preview monitor or a new console version (the word using keyframes zoom) would be the problem, however, quickly made other world. So wait and eye sharpening objective drink water ...
Regards
Rudi
Antwort von weitwinkel:
the problem is setting the focus with the high-resolution filmerei become really exciting. lowlight is in manual focus and announced it works without viewfinder peaking neither with nor with lcd good. if you like. a lecture recording, and the speaker s.anfang with the usual bad light beautifully sharp set, then you have to when the good man begins to walk up a fully peaking leave .... and since we are a small tiefenschärfe love because we ruck sugar hd-blurred images .... gruß cj
ps. why did the camcorder s.ist in the test as many points get if something like sharpness is not clean?
Antwort von Axel:
"weitwinkel" wrote:
ps. why did the camcorder s.ist in the test as many points get if something like sharpness is not clean?
Because the thread of course after extended experience has come about and of several users. Moreover, the statement "clean sharp points is not" simply untrue. Obviously the focus is working with the Recording Wizard, na, because what Berlin says HDV. The Peaking function works exactly like the very precise autofocus, which is everything no matter. Only non s.der upper half of the zoom. Then you start pumping s.oder focus is wrong. Here you can only peaking with sharply, but then can not zoom out more. The general waiver of the very long focal lengths solves this problem completely. A minus point is not a tragedy.
Antwort von HDV Berlin:
Ohh.
gabs a firmware update or something? got my cam nov. 2006 purchased and when I start, I can not help with the focus assist. (magn.) to enlarge the display!
it works for you or what?
Antwort von Axel:
I'm not at home and can not check, but at least the Peaking (which I think better), is with me always active. Whether you during the recording, the display at all on S / W and can enlarge turn, I do not know by heart, in any case, the behavior of the buttons (if S / W display screen and / or Viewfinder always or only for peaking and / or Magnetic) in the Custom settings and in any case, there's many variables. Have you checked?
Antwort von HDV Berlin:
've actually read everything. yes. Peaking is a good thing. da haste recht. but unfortunately my warrior "lupe" not pure, if I record.
if you succeed, but say it. Thank you.
Antwort von Axel:
You have absolutely right. Peaking is, S / W synonymous, Lupe does not. Quote: The Peaking - and zoom function will not affect your shots (as it should normally be synonymous when it comes to "REC" wegschaltet?). The bigger picture is, however, [...] s.den HDV output port. Ah yes, so did I look at the function Magn forbidden, I sometimes capture directly to tape without the laptop. This is probably the reason why Lupe wegschaltet. It would indeed be in the recording.
But what I just found out, is this: You can use the Peaking constantly run, then you can see whether everything is clear. Additionally, you can pre-recording "Mag" and press this into the user functions as an S / W defined. Now you have prior to recording all three assistants focus on the work: black, Lupe and contour emphasis. It really allows a very precise focus. You now press "REC", the picture is colored car (if you like) and of normal size. Stoppst you the recording, remains "Magn" inactive. Is really great, right?
Antwort von HDV Berlin:
hm. I must see if I get used to it. but thank you for the tips.
Antwort von Axel:
Incidentally seems a Canon to be a problem that already exists forever. Have shots with just the old XL1 seen that with my old VX2000 which together have been cut. It was fully eingezoomt since started to pump the autofocus s.zu. Off autofocus, manual focus, then ausgezoomt: The sharpness level drifts away. Low, as DV, but clearly visible. Not so with the famous VX. I remember a malicious remark in style, geile Exchangable optics, tons heavy, as is certainly what is behind.
Antwort von domain:
Perhaps we should synonymous mention that the method sets the sharpness of the telephoto focal length with subsequent adjustment to a shorter focal length range and already synonymous with all zoom lenses only at extremely expensive and precise built purely mechanical lenses exactly was possible. The reason is that every two moving zoom lens groups, the first being the focal length change is responsible, while the second only to the current rudder nachjustiert sharpness. And it worked only on high-precision mechanical control curves, as a function of the first lens group. Since the introduction of the electronic focusing system, this complex and exit times.
Antwort von weitwinkel:
hüstel, the behavior of the shift of the focus plane s.der a1, I can unfortunately synonymous with the FX7 see. gruß cj
Antwort von Robson:
Moin, I funtionieren both as synonymous Peak Lupe wonderful, I can only the best will not find, where I S / W setting is activate. Kann mir da jemand weiter helfen?
Antwort von Axel:
"Robson" wrote:
Moin, I funtionieren both as synonymous Peak Lupe wonderful, I can only the best will not find, where I S / W setting is activate. Kann mir da jemand weiter helfen?
Manual p. 36 and p. 83 (table), if Lupe and / or peak and / or software only temporarily. If on custom controls (Toggle): p. 67, or 69th To viewfinders and / or permanently on display to make SW: In the Camera menu, the display / or Viewfinder-setting ( "Color", clearly, is not it?), P. 128 Table
Antwort von seifenchef:
"HDV Berlin wrote:
... the method (or earlier) in the max. telecharger sharp area and then to the excerpts to choose does not work ...
This method has never been in Konsumerschrottbereich works, but has always been s.ein flanschbares metal bayonet which tied a Extraeinstellmöglichkeit for the so-called Flanschbrennweite / Auflagemaß owns.
Since only helps save on a profit cam with the corresponding features :-)
Many greetings
Antwort von smooth-appeal:
I can recommend the A1 s.sich. As for me ankotzt is the aperture ring (which I with my big hands move often unintentionally). The sharp points with the viewfinders works relatively well. I use the LCD only if it is not Conditional admission can be avoided.
But synonymous with the viewfinders is 100% sharp not possible. This helps only an external monitor or you need to leave the AF. This has the A1 but with many HD (V) cameras in common. The typical model is nothing ...
Antwort von Rainer Müller:
Hello,
I recommend ewin Tote Vision 7 "LCD monitor on top. This can make perfectly sharp.
Gruss Rainer
Antwort von r.p.television:
"soap-chef" wrote:
"HDV Berlin wrote:
... the method (or earlier) in the max. telecharger sharp area and then to the excerpts to choose does not work ...
This method has never been in Konsumerschrottbereich works, but has always been s.ein flanschbares metal bayonet which tied a Extraeinstellmöglichkeit for the so-called Flanschbrennweite / Auflagemaß owns.
Since only helps save on a profit cam with the corresponding features :-)
Many greetings
This is with almost forgive idiocy. With the PD150 for instance, this was entirely feasible. Even with the old S-VHS cameras of 1989, this was - and is forced to very good, because the auto was more than bad work. In the reverse move at the moment so some of the supposedly good optics broadcast back s.den Manufacturer - because of the same back-focus problems - or it is not 100% back-focus adjustment. This has been a known problem with HD. Also produce high-quality broadcast optics CA sometimes more than the fixed built-Zoom Lenses of HDV cameras. A bayonet connection provides so far for perfect pictures. Often obtained only after a man changing a bad Lens hoped the picture shows.
Antwort von seifenchef:
"rptelevision" wrote:
This is with almost forgive idiocy. ...
Logically, otherwise hätt ichs not written. Lovers of Konsumerschrott always arguing all the features of the professional league as meaningless from. The most vehement of course, which is then synonymous with the Konsumerschrott still want to earn money and an apology for her "substitute - Equipment" need.
Besides the Auflagemaß there is still just the Aufschneidemaß :-)
I am not a lover of quote "Consumer scrap", but would never, for example, a PD150 designate as such. Is certainly a contentious issue, but it is far too often in professional applications. I own both a large camera with bayonet connection, but I like to work synonymous with small Henkelcams like Z1 or XH A1. Certain applications can not be serious Schultercams.
I do not dispute the features of the professional league from, otherwise I would not have even a camera, instead of me a new Golf GTI would have to buy. But it is incorrect that the zoom - focus - out - method of semi camcorders have never worked. Such statements but reinforce the impression that this is the fundamental ignorance and arrogant rejection that are not too rarely is played. Both Z1, FX1, HVX200, PD150, etc., this has worked. The XH A1, this is unfortunately not, probably because of the weitwinligen start of the focal length and yet very powerful zoom.
It should indeed give the people a great camera as the Porsche replacement consider synonymous tail extension called. A good cameraman always selects the equipment that the situation is suitable s.besten and not to impress. And rightly deserve synonymous coal. Sometimes with a PD150 or Z1.
