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XL1 out of sync audio with EditDV
Editing with PowerBook
FilmRender is DEAD
realtime DV (was: New Canopus
Why aint there just 1 firewire


XL1 out of sync audio with EditDV - Adam Wilt


> i tried sending a five minute throat singing/horsehead viol clip out of
> my xl1 through firewire [moto dv, edit dv le.]. it was great for a
> while then about two minutes later it drifted out of sync.

Canons have off-speed audio clocks that cause sync drifts
on long captures. Final Cut Pro has an auto-sync-compensator mode to account
for this, as do Canopus NLEs and the latest Matrox drivers. I don't know what
EditDV does; I don't remember any menu settings specific to Canons. Best have
a look on the EditDV user lists; I've had some tough problems solved there.




Editing with PowerBook - Adam Wilt


I'd like to hear from people who are using a PowerBook to edit with Final
> Cut Pro.
I've been doing this for a year with an ancient G3/266, 128 MB, a 10 GB
docking bay drive from MCE (VST makes 'em as well, and the capacities are up
to 18 GB last time I looked), and a 1394 card from ProMax. Works very, very
well, even if it's a bit slower at screen redraws and rendering than the
G4/450! With the 10 GB drive, I can easily handle a 10-15 minute show; above
that and I have to juggle things a bit. But the internal drive is less of a
hassle than a separate FireWire drive; keeps the run 'n' gun kit lighter, more
compact, and easier to rig in the field if working space is at a premium.
Works fine with OS 9.0.4 and QT 5 preview (so far, at least). 128 MB is on the
tight side, but workable; I'll wind up bumping this to 192 or 256 MB before
I'm done. I'd like to keep PhotoShop and FCP loaded at the same time, and with
128 MB this can't reasonably be done.
The 1024x768 screen is just fine. I wouldn't want to try this with the smaller
800x600 screen on the iBook, though: too cramped.
If/when the G4 PowerBooks come out, I'll probably upgrade, but not until --
the current PBs are very attractive, but not enough of a leap in performance
to empty my wallet for.
Cheers,
Adam Wilt



FilmRender is DEAD - Adam Wilt


Ned,
Don't give it up.
There are too many people who need it, and who can't afford the fancy stuff
(or the rendering times for the fancy stuff). And we all need it to keep the
market competitive.
Screw the crackers. That was going to happen sooner or later. There are still,
and will be, plenty of folks for whom is not too much to pay for a decent
filmstyle filter.
Yes, sales will fall off with cracking. But they will also fall off as the
early adopters, hungry for such a thing, get their fix.
Just because it's cracked doesn't mean the market has vanished. Yes, some who
would otherwise have bought it will used the cracked version instead. All else
being equal, cracking will reduce sales. But that doesn't mean that everybody
will hunt out the cracked version (especially at only for the real,
supported thing), otherwise Microsoft's Office sales would have vanished
completely (the SPA's inflated numbers for damage due to cracking assumes that
every Chinese peasant with a bootleg Office CD, being used as a vegetable
scraper, would have invariably purchased a full licenced copy were the free
version unavailable. Bollocks!).
It may not be a full-time gig that pays all the bills, but it can still be
tidy little earner on the side. I *know* there's a market for FilmRender; when
I mentioned it in my DVExpo classes people's eyes bugged out and they started
scribbling furiously.
Don't give it up.
Cheers,
Adam Wilt



realtime DV (was: New Canopus - Adam Wilt


I think this real-time output is a big non-issue for most users. Unless
> output is a large percentage of your work - who cares?
An excellent point. But for those for whom output *is* a large percentage,
it's an issue.
> I have been editing a short film for two months of nights and weekends and
> will be at it for 2 or 3 months work.
In this case realtime DV output is a total nonissue.
> Real-time color correction, transition, rendering speed for effects,
> mattes, layers, titles, ETC. - let's get these features that consume
> hundreds of hours of editing time speeded up or better yet, real-time.
Right on!
> In fact - I can only conclude that people that gripe about this features
> aren't in fact full time editors.
Many of the gripers (myself included) aren't in fact full time editors. Some
of us are one-man bands; some of us mostly shoot; some of us mostly write
software; some of us mostly teach. What all of us have in common is that none
of us have the spare time to sit around and wait for rendering! Does that mean
our needs aren't valid, even if they differ from the full-time editor's?
> Who out there is losing money and/or finding their creative process
> interfered or slowed down by the lack of real-time output to DV?
I'm not losing money. You might argue that my creative process is being
interfered with. I have a DigiSuite DTV that's my #1 box for slamming together
quick 'n' dirty shows when all I need to do is bang out a few dozen VHS copies
or an analog master, but if I need to master back to DV I have to think long
and hard before using the DTV.
Sure, I can chroma-key and proc-amp and DVE and speed-change and fly titles
with ease, but if I want a DV copy I have to render, and use a separate
program for output over 1394. It's clunky and slow and inconvenient. And
BECAUSE MY TIME IS LIMITED (and that's the key factor), I'll fire up the Mac
instead and do it all in software in Final Cut Pro. Don't get me wrong, I love
FCP -- but sometimes waiting for renders to make sure I keyframed a move or an
exposure change properly *does* interfere with my creativity, stuff that on
DigiSuite would be done in real time. But in FCP, once it's done, it plays off
the timeline in realtime over 1394.
Now, this is for event recordings, demos, classes, lectures, presentations,
and the like. My job is to get the stuff into the system, fling it together,
fix the exposure and color problems, add lower thirds, and get it off on
tape. It ain't no rocket science and I ain't no Michealangelo. Creativity,
schmeativity: these are cookie-cutter shows that don't stress the editing
muscles overmuch.
Lack of real-time output to DV doesn't slow down my creativity, but it slows
down the overall process of getting the show cut and laid back to tape. I
*know* that when the realtime 1394 option for the DTV is available I'll use it
a LOT more than I do now.
When I'm working on a "serious" bit of editing -- theatrical film,
documentary, or the like -- *all* I care about is the way the software fits my
way of thinking, and how the software and hardware stay out of my way and just
let me think, experiment, play, and create.
Different projects, different workflows, different needs.
Cheers,
Adam Wilt



Why aint there just 1 firewire - Adam Wilt


In addition there are two six pin standards.
really? Have any pointers to this? I've only ever seen the one.
> I don't understand why 6 pins are necessary to "carry power".
The 1394 spec allows devices to be powered over the 1394 bus INSTEAD of
plugging into the wall. The power available over 1394 isn't enough for a CD
burner or a DV camcorder, perhaps, but it's enough for a small hard disk or a
webcam. It's very similar to USB, which allows bus-powered devices up to a
limit.
Cheers,
Adam Wilt




(diese posts stammen von der DV-L Mailingliste - THX to Adam Wilt and Perry Mitchell :-)


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