Frage von TomBom:
Day the lord,
We are four students, on the tranquil island of Ruegen linger. As part of an event we have a little short film rotated. Basically, we are quite satisfied with the result. Since complaints but something is s.vom shot, we would be very happy about criticism external to synonymous times an objective / neutral feedback to get.
Here is the link times:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=z05DgxMjeIk About constructive criticism we would be very pleased.
Thanks, Tom
Antwort von crazy-spy:
Servus,
For me, a good film, but only up to the point where he jumps. I personally found this a little excessive, I think of suicide are major motivations necessary - or something but I have completely misunderstood: D
Nevertheless: Beautiful setting, Schnittrhytmus like me, so next!
Antwort von FabeX:
So I find the film very well.
The question fits very well and I believe the strength of the film to do so.
how about the crazy-spy says that major motivations for suicide are needed, I can say that definitely not true. That such situations are often the trigger for these negotiations.
What I s.dem a little movie camera tracks are missing .. which would discreetly set up the drama in some scenes rather reinforce.
And then there is the music .. or the volume of these .. This may partly be a bit louder, but the slightly lower atmo ..
lg
andi
Antwort von Axel:
Very good and exciting. Everything.
Among the suicide Motivation:
The same things every day slowly bring order. Sure, Vincent by his creative act has found a cure.
I am. We are. That is enough. Now we have to start. In our hands is the life. For himself, it has long been empty. It staggers out and her senseless, but we are fixed, and we want his fist and his goals are. Leaving the socialist - ideological backgrounds away times, a good motto. Power to the people!
Antwort von serkan86:
At the beginning I only thought what a cramp, but then finally, after the half but still came purely tension, I found s.Ende the film "quite okay".
But 3 minutes is quite hard Tensionless a viewer be expected if the entire movie only runs about 5 minutes. (I hardly believe that 100% of the synonymous beginning to see the final will see ^ ^)
Not quite, however, I have understood the woman s.Ende who she is, what it has to do with him? His girlfriend, on the same kind of way and has committed suicide?
What bothered me:
- At the beginning quite langweillig, so you s.Anfang a little "force" must be next to look.
- At the first appearance of the scene, as "he" to the gas station hinläuft, there is a light house in the background. I was confused and think that it is not wanted, if they do, I have not understood the meaning.
- I could not notice the woman to discover, so for me it s.Ende not much made sense. (Think times she was his girlfriend / sister, he finally sees the film s.Anfang suffering from a bit)
- The withered flower I find it pretty cheap somehow reinzudrücken. Because if you had something richer and more imaginative use and can not be "oh, how about with its withered flower of the suicide in terms of predicting gewissier, awesome, huh?" ;)
Antwort von r.p.television:
I think the film really succeeded.
Simple camera settings, appropriate music, good editing unobtrusive.
And the suicidal end ensures the resolutive aha experience. He follows his girlfriend into the suicide death, because he is the cruel life without it is no longer tolerate. So I at least understood.
The moment was very moody staged.
Thumbs up!
Antwort von DWUA:
Hi Tom,
The film has not even finished. *
The jumper jumps because of his boring life, treadmill
of everyday life.
Then would have 90% of all people since the Stone Age in this
Art and totgegangen his way.
(Or is behind the reminder that mom used to wash the
washed and there is more than egg each day to eat there?)
Rather, it is the vague sense of "Mal du siècle ', to a
to satiety s.Allem led.
At 02:18 the place is meaningless pregnant a paperback:
Movies.
Camus' "L'Etranger" content would be useful, a Jamie Oliver -
Useful cookbook tasteful, Ernst Bloch The Principle of Hope "more cynical, if you
wanted. ( "We have not, we will erst")
*
"Finish the film until
after the jump with the renewed Eiaufschlagen into the pan, and more, and so ends.
Those few extra (known) images would only be the
perpetuum mobile a grueling everyday life illustrate
from which there is
no escape,
no escape there.
Antwort von FabeX:
perpetuum mobile ... a grueling everyday life illustrate
from which there is no escape, no escape there. I think this is a rumor!
Everyone can judge his everyday what he wants.
If the job is too boring .. should be looking for another
If the partner is too boring .. should seek a different or something to change
Who of everyday life is boring .. the will but kindly hobbies and pursuits are looking for ..
OT but something on the subject:)
lg
Andi
Antwort von Axel:
Hi Tom,
The film has not even finished. *...*
"Finish the film until after the jump with the renewed Eiaufschlagen into the pan, and more, and so ends.
Those few extra (known) images would only be the
perpetuum mobile a grueling everyday life illustrate
from which there is no escape, no escape there. But 3 minutes is quite hard Tensionless a viewer be expected if the entire movie only runs about 5 minutes. (I hardly believe that 100% of the synonymous beginning to see the final will see ^ ^) Too many try to escape by flash Storykniffs or wow Effects einzuschleimen the audience. One would like to continue to click, the other is just by the simple Machart lured ...
The suicide is consistently, but something synonymous simple, one might say unimaginative. An after-rotation is still possible.
A formal bracket would be that in the first setting in the camera and then looks back of the balcony railing lets slip, followed by the egg into the pan is hewn (hm, misleading editing). Also wanted something, but it would be bored at the bar keep.
I would be better, a completely new end to invent. Difficult, but it would be a good short film, perhaps make a jewel.
I try using the light in the apartment block is concerned (see above), to describe what I particularly liked: All the pictures are as they should be. They are also not
un realistic, can be read as a metaphor (if you like something) and press directly somewhat synonymous, say the mood is the main actor depressed. The film is almost
stream of consciousness undiluted, and one rarely sees. Therefore, such a small,
realistic details like a small apartment light ever noticed someone / disturb.
Antwort von korl:
So hats mir gut gefallen! ^ ^
the first 3 minutes were a bit tough but the ensuing tension even more intense! (synonymous perfect choice of music) so I do not know whether you should s.anfang chalk. because who does not end until durchhält or want to persevere, which is not synonymous, the finale on you!
I think the final super ... For me, the suicide is not an end, but an escape! All is not glory, but simply and simply a story. and because it is a short story is not the synonymous bother to ask who the woman is s.ende!
small, sensitive, disturbing!
so I like shorts!
beautiful!
Antwort von targi:
cinematically is certainly ok, but the content is not true ...
why a young man in the tank and it works
contact to the outside world-has-a monotonous life has not fit ...
an outsider it looks somewhat different and is probably
the whole day alone at home ...
and if the suicide with the girlfriend has to do is not clear ...
gruß cj
Antwort von DWUA:
Andi @ (FabeX)
Your advice on the practical life, we share fully and completely.
Is our thinking synonymous.
This is but a "message" that in 6 minutes of film placed
be.
So please do not Halbsätze sense from their context, bring about
they are a completely different thought process aufzupfropfen.
( "Cake" not with "ass cheeks" velwechsern!)
;)
@ Cj
Why not? Can you enter into a people watch?
He s.der nose tip, because of his lifestyle, his
Behavior see what it
really is going on?
Ancient theme of criminology / psychiatry).
@ Axel
We would be in such "emergencies" once again on the
"Deus ex machina" of Greek tragedy, and invoked in
follows:
This time it appears (as in the film) just as a transparent figure girls!
Vision? Memory? No matter!
Instead of the "knight" of railings to slide, we could
Film run backwards up to a suitable place of the he
finally the pan with egg (or less than Befreiungsakt) in a high arc to
Throwing out the balcony.
Increasing recruitment in extremely slomo or stop motion almost to the Still Image.
Next scene (Normal speed):
He wants to work and will of his pan of the top hit.
The consequences?
Either way, there would be
similar to many other approaches, in order of the
simple end to come away. Everyone likes yet "more spin"
how he loved ...
@ Tom
If we are so extensively as just about to post a movie here
respond, it means that he has already fallen, to the
abrupt end.
Suicide seems to be "in" to be like real life
reported ...
Also in the film does not tolerate free riders mentality is
our efforts.
Antwort von targi:
no you can not, but it is credible but not ...
the story seems to work but is looking to 2.ten
designed to greatly ...
it seems as if the person does not contact to the outside world ...
although a few hours in the tank works ...
with an unemployed person would have the better story fit only wanted / had to
away before the dreary house show ...
gruß cj
Antwort von targi:
Also in the film ... not to tolerate free riders mentality is our aspiration. This noble desire should be synonymous with the quest item your graces are :-)
Antwort von Axel:
it seems as if the person does not contact to the outside world ...
although a few hours in the tank works ... This interpretierst you the problem of isolation as a hero. I did not understand it. Well, he is not shown as it appears in the leisure rumhängen at the time with other totschlägt. This can be for a while neuroses of
distraction, but with depression go hand in hand an
internal insulation, a Abkapseln social environment comes from the very end, if at all. The least at risk of suicide would be absent from work.
with an unemployed person would have the better story fit only wanted / had to
away before the dreary house show ... And conversely, is the insinuation, the unemployed lose the meaning of life from the eyes, the only propaganda of our system. The feeling of failure is vague in that of many social institutions and the unutterable stupid common sense "encouraged", but normally puts the back, the extra leisure synonymous creates many free
units. Especially young people hold in areas with high unemployment, its no longer a stigma. Unemployment is not a primary reason, not even homelessness.
The hero as an AG II recipients would show the statement
Who is the life without resistance extradite has lost in converting
Happiness belongs to the bold, you such a job.
Antwort von DWUA:
no you can not, but it is credible but not ...
the story seems to work but is looking to 2.ten
designed to greatly ...
cj That is true for the best films of all time champion.
Antwort von targi:
Phew, here is something going on.
So first of all thank you s.alle the honest deal with the film set.
Please take it I do not resent that I have not personally answer each, but the feedback is too large.
For story:
He follows his girlfriend into the suicide, because his life is always more s.Sinnhaftigkeit loses.
View Camera:
Rides, crane, etc., we do not, on the one hand, time and monetary reasons (we're here on the island of Rügen, the nearest distributor is located approximately 5 hours away), on the other, but quite deliberately. The tranquil setting, the increasing monotony and drabness illustrate. I think that this is by individual camera operations not in a way would have worked.
On average:
First we had the first day shorter and the other held a little longer. This is not enough tension arose out of the end. While some states, such elements have gone on board, but it seemed the only way for us to work.
Style funds:
What is somewhat surprising that the apparently None desaturation in the course of the film noticed. Furthermore, there are us 3 key scenes (bed, kitchen, Glotze) the emptiness of the protagonist zunehmede represent. These are of the day are always a bit of total / open and should indicate to the girlfriend. To enter into the kitchen more and more of the empty chair at the center of the second. In Wohnzimer the second seat of the light on them, the girlfriend is. And in bed synonymous with the light cone of the protagonists. In addition, the Picture in the tank is always full.
Interpretation:
I do not think the situation is constructed. Clearly there is much room for criticism. Nevertheless, I think that regardless of the staging, the motivation for the end While drastic, but is not illogical. One should bear in mind that we are here on the island of Rügen and were inspired by synonymous. Here is nunmal nothing going on in the winter. There is just one less thing to orient / hold can be in a city.
So far only once.
Once again a big thanks s.alle.
If I can interest the film synonymous again in a better quality for download.
Well synonymous and thanks for the nice debut on this page. I'm really excited of the offer and the quality of content and of the members.
Tom Grus
PS: The picture with the flower and the letters somehow like anyone anymore. The idea was that the letters s.die girlfriend at the same time more and more the plant will always be barren. Unfortunately the implementation is flawed. The title of the book is the way: The worst movies of all time.
Antwort von TomBom:
Möp, sorry I was not logged. The above entry is surprisingly guest of me.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
........ Here is nunmal nothing going on in the winter. There is just one less thing to orient / hold can be in a city ....... How not to hold a fishing and sea trout can be probably more than a silly city ;-) Be happy times that you live as !!!;-)
I found the film synonymous ok had a bit of what "The Machinist" and perhaps "Memento" what are the desolation and the subsequent "Now I must now finish times kucken"
Washer was generally good and the recurring "repetition"
But would have a picture (must be not equal to his banner with black) friend of a clue where the defined attentive to the situation had not harmed.
Blume is in order, I found the idea but would have more scope to attack them. The example garnicht he pours more and maybe the laundry is always less in the drum, the letters are stacked, and the dishes. Perhaps synonymous he makes 2 eggs s.Anfang dan garkeins more then one .... so we would have with the better end abruppten clearly possible.
But has enjoyed is ok and makes it next.
Good luck and enjoy 4 wünsch ich euch mal.
MfG
B. DeKid
Ps How many days did you turn rotated?
Antwort von Axel:
What is somewhat surprising that the apparently None desaturation in the course of the film noticed. Furthermore, there are us 3 key scenes (bed, kitchen, Glotze) the emptiness of the protagonist zunehmede represent. These are of the day are always a bit of total / open and should indicate to the girlfriend. To enter into the kitchen more and more of the empty chair at the center of the second. In Wohnzimer the second seat of the light on them, the girlfriend is. And in bed synonymous with the light cone of the protagonists. In addition, the Picture in the tank is always full. Style funds that do not notice are the best. Finally, should we not say,
oh, the Vincent pulls all the registers. So are you disappointed to be wrong. I would still say that the effort was worth it. Please continue to make films.
Antwort von Alex12345:
@ TomBom:
thanks for the explanation ...
but with the freundin can I find totally incomprehensible
and comes from the film is not over ...
I had them in the last scene is not missed ...
gruß cj
ps. cinematically and again it was well implemented
Antwort von Adam West:
Once synonymous of me a big thank you for all your real constructive criticism! it's really great if you want to get feedback of people outside the island and of people who are interested for the same as we! thanks best, something we can only forward!
therefore synonymous, I have a question, and although was now frequently found that one does not understand who that girl s.ende of the films, since during the entire history, no clear instructions on their existence suggest. one good, because offers interprettionsspielraum other hand, maybe not so good because may not understand who she is.
There is, however, a moment in the film by his / her / my friend mentioned. and now I come synonymous finally equal to wonder - if I'm in the tankstelle (1: 21), are the only words spoken, and although the work of colleagues. He says: "My condolences." you hear it but only quietly and a little indistinct and we had long considered synonymous, whether we ever should do so.
it is not noticed or was not (acoustic) to understand that he me his condolences to the matter or was the relation of words is not understandable? we should be louder or nachsynchronisieren levels so that it would become clearer?
beste grüße, Vincent
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Jupp check the times, something that could "help. But do not be so much on the error correction now. Your work is good and now shows you what you are synonymous in the next story can approach.
Films must be no way directly understandable. It is much more interesting in retrospect the movie to want to look again.
I personally love "Twisted Mind" films with "AHA" effect s.Schluss.
So forget it and to the next winter look ..... we / I are excited.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von dsuli:
To truly experience a different discharging:
I did after a few seconds rather directly understood that the girlfriend that emptiness, which the protagonists already surrounds the whole time, has left. Precisely this Achsoistdas! I was then really excited because I think only because everything was clear. Therefore, I look at the film again without directly view and will now have the girlfriend "discover" and discover where they are missing. For these multiple viewers are synonymous worth all the metaphors! Hats off!
Somehow, I am but this moment in which he jumps and then again the picture is empty, but too short. Perhaps enough, a slow motion of his leap? Or: To the end of outstanding design, one would have its anchor point is not necessarily synonymous. Maybe it's just appealing to the viewers to decide whether he actually jumps or not.
But that definitely details that show personal preference rather than as criticisms really should count.
Again: Chapeau!
dsuli
