Frage von Spaceman:
Since I come from the photography, I am with great interest the development of digital SLR cameras. In particular, the Full of the sensors, however, synonymous to the smaller sensors (500 ¬ league) which, after all, the sensor size of 35mm film (only in the 3:2 ratio) or higher.
The Live View mode, where the mirror is folded up so that the viewfinder image synonymous on the screen is visible, it is always better. Nikon offers the new D700 back to an HDMI output on the viewfinder image with an external monitor in 1080i quality can be obtained. To be seen is how the Live View mode yet slightly jerky. A flowing Picture in pans as synonymous with compact cameras is here only the question of a few months. Then it simply means the HDMI signal capture and you have the ultimate 35 mm camera for low budget price.
It is interesting here is that neither Canon or Sonyderzeit HDMI output for the Live View mode on your SLR camera to offer. Of course because that would compete with their own professional cameras. The guys are not stupid.
Before Nikon but einsteigt into the film business are synonymous Sonyand Canon sooner or later the big sensors shooting released.
Who is on the route is likely to remain Red ....
Antwort von Axel:
A flowing Picture in pans as synonymous with compact cameras is here only the question of a few months. There must me something to be escaped. Fluent? For the purposes of tough? Tough mucus, which flows on a washboard? There are compact cameras with 30 fps, I know, but the direct issue preview in the Still Image mode via
video out is not redundant.
Then it simply means the HDMI signal capture and you have the ultimate 35 mm camera for low budget price. A preview 1080i signal? Somewhere must be a mistake. Once the experts are online, we will know's.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
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Nice idea but ABSOLUTELY not there.
The LiveView mode is not with 10 mega pixels or more
And the issue here, we had already synonymous.
Also there are no live shows 25 FPS, if you're a bit more specifically with the issue continues, you'll find the mice cinema is / is.
Imagine prefer before the da ne kind extra mobile chip, the Live View generiet Full and not the sensor.
As I said nice idea but not relevant.
Starting to wait rather should be what the sensors Full sometime away to create a Camera.
To do this I've already expressed ideas.
But only an EOS 400D 1.6 Crop chip produced in RAW mode with 10 mega pixels ca 8 MB for AN IMAGE, the computer times 25 and you get one seconds of film material.
Say 90 min ca
1 080 000 MB .... probably quite a lot and is still far away of the Full sensor EOS 1 DIIIs because you have almost twice the s.Daten / pixels per picture.
So of "soon" can hardly be said that ;-)
What is more interesting, these are the developments of Adobe, which now has its own s.einem "Insects" Lens tinker DoF and what we should bring 3D.
CONCLUSION
35 mm is 35 mm and digital still first Digital.
LiveView and does not need a man - a good viewfinders for video cameras and yes it cost more than an external monitor so why on display kucken NEN small ;-)
But yes nice idea and in the distant future is indeed a possibility, you will sehn. And Red products are not equal ARRI ;-)
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von Spaceman:
Care:
It is not about 10 or 12 megapixels but the HDMI output at 1080i.
And with all current SLR's will, of course, the original sensor output Picture (HD down effect) to the depth of synonymous to assess.
The pre-pre-predecessor of Olympus models such as times had an additional sensor in the beam path running ... but already there are not many more ....
Antwort von soahC:
And what has that now with the end of Red to do? Versteh I just absolutely no piece! Indeed, even if it is a 35mm camera for ¬ 2000, there, come for EVERYTHING because you still revolves footage, copying factory costs, post-production ... dazu!
Antwort von minidv:
It was him to look, not about Zelluliod ... Red is synonymous digitally ..
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Care:
It is not about 10 or 12 megapixels but the HDMI output at 1080i.
And with all current SLR's will, of course, the original sensor output Picture (HD down effect) to the depth of synonymous to assess.
The pre-pre-predecessor of Olympus models such as times had an additional sensor in the beam path running ... but already there are not many more .... Again
Who hangs a monitor s.eine the camera?
Who takes the Singnal then the synonymous still on?
How / What it takes to be on?
If I have understood that the gewessen because no extra chip sits inside so I just wanted to express the Full mice from the cinema.
Time vs. a film camera. Camera image of a lactation in the hand held?
Have Still image cameras then synonymous TC in / out?
What Still Camera Image creates the 25 or 50 or more images a second? (So I my Still Image Camera - "non-toy consumer clippers")
Since when is the Still Image interlaced images?
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All of these factors but it remains to Still Image Cameras and film (video) cameras will be.
AND that is good Personally I find the well-synonymous, and digital and exposed to negative material because there are still differences.
And if a new digital camera from a building, then please with a Hasselblad CF and then when the times for 2000 euro, so it may be the most interesting.
For 2000 euros, you can just 1-2 "Standard" (Still Image) Lenses Buy.
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Of course is not a 35 mm film cameras for 2000 euro, since the costs of drum / the magazine more determined. From the film material times did not talk.
Conclusion `= Nice idea but nothing really relevant.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Spaceman
Actually, just the wrong title ....
..... it is not the end of RED, but RED is the beginning of such a development.
RED fits only the product under the requirements of a video application because it is but some significant differences. (A few have already been mentioned.)
To this extent such approaches agree in principle, albeit not the consequence.
Antwort von Spaceman:
True, Red is in the sense of pioneering. I hope that not only halt Red comes under the wheels, because that Canon and Sony already videomässig your Vollformatsensoren can read is synonymous clear.
None believed anyway, that only 100 fps Red creates Myterium chip or no fuss, and the Great Manufacturer with decades-long digital movie / still image could not experience.
The marketing strategy is in the big clear: as long as there are enough people there for! / 3 "- cheap chips in a big Blender camera housing an infidel money to spend, there is no reason the profit margin with 35mm sensors to diminish.
One can indeed synonymous sell more cameras if we slow the development of 1 / 3 inch to 1 / 2 "(a la EX1) about 2 / 3" disappeared ....
To hope is that Red and Nikon make the market fire ....
Antwort von WoWu:
Well, quite so euphoric, I would not see .... at least not in relation to the total resolution .... but it is already much has been said. It makes sense I believe it would, the pixel pitch should not be so drastically reduced, which is not necessarily or directly with the sensor size varies (see MOS development) and so again to ensure that non-synonymous Lenses s.den physical performance limits depend.
Also, one could re-use as shields, as they were intended and should not ND's with the sharpness control .. but then again against UV / IR problems fighting.
The total resolution is only of secondary importance, because it obviously synonymous rise again the amount of data and the downstream problems.
Schön, it would be just if the customer time would tell the truth.
I have recently nachgeschaut times, the HVX 200 was the last camera, which the manufacturer, the customer has advertised with facts (including chip resolution) and it still synonymous has declared as its pixel pitch really works.
Then came only marketing course descriptions and synonymous as a "nonsense" like "Myterium chip .... So RED ranks since left one.
A progress would, therefore, if either the chip sizes grow in favor of the PP or alternative techniques that have enabled.
From this point of view would be 6 Mpix with a 1-chip and approx. 3 MP for a 3-chip in a 4 / 3 "sensor is more than enough. The entspäche a PP of ca. 6.5 ¼ and thus a lens power of 46 and 76 Lp / mm, which is no longer the problem should be. Bitter pill the Lenses again be bigger ... and so the camcorder. So nothing for the consumer segment, ie not less than 2000 EUR.
But the trend, and because I give you right, goes in the prosumer segment again into something larger chips ... So there is hope for better pictures. Surely bear because of developments such as the RED with help.
