Infoseite // 5D Mark II vs.. 1d Mark IV



Frage von Gregott:


Hello I just wanted to ask all who loved her camera would prefer to shoot when the time money is gone ... I know the Lenses synonymous with the crucial and so are next ... So please no lectures. I honestly do not know exactly how the full frame can have positive effects. I can just imagine the crop a somehow limited. With the same display size is another point of view can still be good? Crop is yes, then how blinkered ne ... Does the full frame sensor positive or negative effect on DOF from ... How it looks with a rolling shutter Comparison?

PS: I write as carefully as I noticed when one wants to spend money are usually somewhat aggressive thread! Oh yes, I do not consider myself as a benefit s.mich denote that synonymous always makes all aggressive ...

I look forward to constructive help!

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Antwort von Elvis the king:

So the full format has a larger DOF.
Whether that is now a positive or negative, of hanging from the situation. If you want to obtain a blurred background, it is possible, of course positive, but it remains to be noted that in this case synonymous Focusing is much more difficult.

The APS-H sensor (if I remember correctly), the Mark IV has the advantage that you will get an artificial Focal length of 1.6. So Does this mean that, for example, a 50mm f1.4 lens is now to one ~ 80mm 1.4 Lens.

With this type of focal length extension of the background is not blurred, incidentally, as the focal of the lens does not actually even greater but only a small part of the imaging circle is read.

As for the Rollingshuttereffekt, I can offer you, unfortunately, no Comparison, however, the problem probably will affect both cameras, as in the two models lies a CMOS sensor (the sensor is then read out lines of way).

Regardless of the Full Frame - APS-H synonymous question you should consider folgeneds: A Compendium and one followfocus on a rig at the moment there are probably only for the EOS 5D/7D/500D say all DSLRs have roughly the same size. When the Mark IV, it looks different, as is the lens due to the somewhat higher housing an entire piece of what could be situated next above problems.

All in all, I would personally (regardless of the price) will tend towards a 5D Mark II. Or wennsein will be a little more comfortable in handling, an 7D.

Greeting Elvis

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Antwort von Gregott:

Simply Thanks for the good advice! So that's really great to write in a forum and it will help one without doubt the motives!

The rig with the synonymous I had already thought that it might be a problem because ... hmmm that with the greater DOF oh I like very much! Then I'll get me for other situations, EX3 ... I think this complements everything quite well:)

The 7D ruled out because of the way, in my review here on Slashcam!

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Antwort von r.p.television:

If you prefer a larger DOF is the 5D of course, preferable. I would also interfere with the 1D of Cropfaktor. If I buy me a 18mm, 18mm, and I would have not synonymous factor of 1.6. Understand why they have not missed the 1D is not synonymous one full-frame sensor. The Cropfaktor for me was the beginning of an exclusion criterion, because I want to use synonymous times lower focal lengths.
And if you also buy a EX1 or EX3 anyway you have a good setup for all eventualities.

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Antwort von Gregott:

"rptelevision" wrote: If you prefer a larger DOF is the 5D of course, preferable. I would also interfere with the 1D of Cropfaktor. If I buy me a 18mm, 18mm, and I would have not synonymous factor of 1.6. Understand why they have not missed the 1D is not synonymous one full-frame sensor. The Cropfaktor for me was the beginning of an exclusion criterion, because I want to use synonymous times lower focal lengths.
And if you also buy a EX1 or EX3 anyway you have a good setup for all eventualities.


Yes, I must say that I do not synonymous could understand why you have not installed this time, full frame, it will surely tempt some to rethink ... Lens wide range of people who do not already exist will have perhaps flirting synonymous with the new d3 of Nikon ...

Yes I'm glad that here synonymous is confirmed once again that I combined with my 5D Mark II and EX3 pretty good lie. Above all, the price is still a good combination!

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Antwort von Elvis the king:

"rptelevision" wrote: Understand why they have not missed the 1D is not synonymous one full-frame sensor.

Well, they've just the thing for sports photography, I believe (10 fps) and interpreted as a full frame sensor would certainly be too slow.

"Gregott" wrote: The 7D ruled out because of the way, in my review here on Slashcam!

What was written in there in the test? Did not quite the level of the head. Was the quality of the 5D better?

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Antwort von Gregott:

http://www.slashcam.de/artikel/Test/2-- Canon EOS 7D --- the-current-best-video DSLR-CAM --- .html

It was a mention of me hated These ... swindling (gibts the word?) product policy! Existing products with intent to retroactively reduce the quality to more expensive, at a distance to create products! Since synonymous None would get upset if a product is better than the old one if they do not have such cycles ... The bombs, the models still out as something ... They should nevertheless focus on important things like models and 550D's can be ... then you are not synonymous need to make such stories!

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Antwort von Elvis the king:

To what extent is the 7D as bad (except that you nen APS-C sensor has)?

If the image quality is the same and one s.der Focal length 1.6 do not mind, I would prefer the 7D, as the ergonomics are better. Product policy or not.

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Antwort von Gregott:

lt Report (now you've confused me and I'll get me a couple of magazines) is the sharpness much worse!

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Antwort von Elvis the king:

"Gregott" wrote: lt Report (now you've confused me and I'll get me a couple of magazines) is the sharpness much worse!

Aye, that was lost on me. If this is so, then the EOS 5D Mark II would be the better choice but if you get along with the Schärfeziehen.

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Antwort von r.p.television:

"Gregott" wrote: lt Report (now you've confused me and I'll get me a couple of magazines) is the sharpness much worse!

Much worse would be an exaggeration.
The Tick is a 5DMKII sharper. However, you should be more visible in the Lineskipping in certain patterns.

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

The 1D is the press Camera and therefore has no FF chip ... by the 1.6 crop can be easier Telelenses (some with doppler veerwenden) which is certainly of advantage.

The 5D is the answer to the previous 1D have a FF chip She is clearly designed to Potrait and landscape.

The 1Ds is soon to come will, as usual, with the "s" models, a designed to Potrait and landscape synonymous Cam, the FF one chip with round about 32 MP is will only have about 6Fotos per sec.

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Thus, it is recommended that you 5DMarkII to ... first, because cheaper and because FF.

What will bring us a 60D and a 3 at the moment is a bit unclear.

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And the hundreds, is one of the main class, the Canon and here because of stupid stuff writes Quote: They should nevertheless focus on important models and how things have 550D's shows that you have zero plan!

MfG
B. DeKid

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Elvis the King" wrote: ... The APS-H sensor (if I had I am not mistaken) the Mark IV, the advantage that you are an artificial Focal length of 1.6 will get ...
1.6 factor of the cameras with APS-C sensor, with the 1D with its larger APS-H sensor, it is 1.3 - the same way as any other Canon DSLR 1D series since the year is 2,001th

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Antwort von wontuwontu:

"Elvis the King" wrote: So the full format has a larger DOF.

It's the other way. The larger the chip, the less the depth of field (DoF).

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Antwort von Elvis the king:

"Bernd E." wrote: "Elvis the King" wrote: ... The APS-H sensor (if I had I am not mistaken) the Mark IV, the advantage that you are an artificial Focal length of 1.6 will get ...
1.6 factor of the cameras with APS-C sensor, with the 1D with its larger APS-H sensor, it is 1.3 - the same way as any other Canon DSLR 1D series since the year is 2,001th


Ah right so it was more nich had quite the head

"wontuwontu" wrote: It's the other way. The larger the chip, the less the depth of field (DoF).
Right. Of course, I meant the uncertainty becomes larger. Damned Anglicisms ^ ^

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