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Frage von Calypso:


I am superior to me a AVCHD camcorder zuzulegen. To me the picture quality of convincing, I have my SD card times in the MM board and with the Pana HDC-SD1 made a few recordings.

I have noticed the record that on the display of the camera quickly pans to the Picture heavily blurred. I have it still pushed to the display and I thought wait times, like the picture with me at home.

At home I looked at the images viewed on the Playstation3, it plays the files s.and of switches is at 1080i to 1080p.

Unfortunately I had to notice that the Recording s.sich is already so blurred (as you can writings on signs, etc. do not recognize when one pans).

So now the question: Why is that? Is it always so bad, or you can Verwischeffekte eg eradicate settings?

So I have more of an HD camcorder expected. If the technology is not yet mature, that we should wait for new models or the fault is in the AVCHD format (to be heavily compressed, interlaced, etc.)? Can you actually synonymous 1080p recording?

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Antwort von suzi:

This is s.der way data compression function (compared with analog recordings)
With HD fast pans are not required anyway! That you can do in analog, but no later than when you transfer it to DVD's again.
Other systems make it synonymous, is interlaced for motion blur even more vulnerable ... to flick a little more progressive. Recording in Progressive is definitely better ...

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Antwort von Schleichmichel:

I recently had the opportunity this time with the pan and Compression of times to test and could not blur through Compression noted. What most progressive 25p mode to see was that the motion blur of a continuous picture next to what already looks like significantly blurred. But this is more a question of exposure time of 1 / 25 and not the compression and emerges at the same DV on.

What I, however, but in detail has noted was a "Kompressionspulsieren" in the static setting, where a new GOP is begun. But that one sees only when it is emphasized by contrast and synonymous only in the detail.

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Antwort von Calypso:

So when the shots with my DV-cam (Canon, simple consumer model) is so strong I have not noticed blurring, synonymous after conversion to a DVD (as MPEG2)! Can one of HD does not expect the same, just with higher resolution? Brave new world of HD: (

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Antwort von lilibily:

[quote = "Calypso"] I'm on about, give me a AVCHD camcorder zuzulegen. To me the picture quality of convincing, I have my SD card times in the MM board and with the Pana HDC-SD1 made a few recordings.

I have noticed the record that on the display of the camera quickly pans to the Picture heavily blurred. I have it still pushed to the display and I thought wait times, like the picture with me at home.

At home I looked at the images viewed on the Playstation3, it plays the files s.and of switches is at 1080i to 1080p.

Unfortunately I had to notice that the Recording s.sich is already so blurred (as you can writings on signs, etc. do not recognize when one pans).

So now the question: Why is that? Is it always so bad, or you can Verwischeffekte eg eradicate settings?

Camera and technique is very good! Blurring of images is the shutter speed. Adjust, if possible, 125/sek!

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Antwort von adolfhitler:

"Surreptitious Michel" wrote: I recently had the opportunity this time with the pan and Compression of times to test and could not blur through Compression noted. What most progressive 25p mode to see was that the motion blur of a continuous picture next to what already looks like significantly blurred. But this is more a question of exposure time of 1 / 25 and not the compression and emerges at the same DV on.

What I, however, but in detail has noted was a "Kompressionspulsieren" in the static setting, where a new GOP is begun. But that one sees only when it is emphasized by contrast and synonymous only in the detail.


Exposure time 125/sek! Everything clear?

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Antwort von Marco:

"the fault is in the AVCHD format"

No, at least not in principle. Try something with a Sony AVCHD Camera and you will see that this effect does not occur there (assuming that it will at least with 1 / 50 second exposure time is rotated).

And - no - I do not Sony-promotion, but I am even more often than reports on Panasonic AVCHD cameras gestolpert, but reversed this effect, for a total of 4 itself extensively tested Sony AVCHD models not found. If there is not a completely normal closing time conditional motion blur occurs, is synonymous the AVCHD compression of motion nothing.

So either those who are with the Panasonic models have noted, are not aware with the shutter speed are handled, or it is actually related model. AVCHD can with movement in any case the best deal.
It would be a mistake, so the AVCHD format to avoid them, because just now the better movement of a compression of the advantages of AVCHD over HDV is.

Marco

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Antwort von WoWu:

... perhaps an additional note to Marcos, who actually said it all, but Sony Reads the CMOS chips with 4-6 times the speed, which leads to some advantages ... (too much out here) ... But his findings are consistent with my findings. S.AVC But it is not ... (only what you understand under the swing? rice pans work on any system really good)

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Antwort von Calypso:

No No, it's just a little faster swing. Only if you gaaaanz slowly pans has no blurring. The effect was Sonyand Pana equal, at least as they are in the technology market rumstanden (s.den settings have not changed).

How accurate is because the attitude that we must change?

If it is properly understood, it is the exposure time, based on 1 / 50 is default and to 1 / 125 to be changed? Will look at my next visit after technology market look. HD irritates me already, but with no blurring.

Synonymous Thanks for the info, that it is not s.AVC codec. Must be well perhaps to new Cam models wait if it is by setting does not resolve.

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Antwort von WoWu:

Calypso ..
... I do believe hundreds of HD here in the forum in various forms, many of which are even commercially and are probably happy with the results (otherwise they would not do it). Your blurring are either an error or a requirement that is quite special and most of us are not s.das system.
HD has a slightly different aesthetic than some pictures on YouTube ... thus need to be addressed, and either with a few conditions to live or stay in DV .... The test again.

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Antwort von Schleichmichel:

"Calypso" wrote: If it is properly understood, it is the exposure time, based on 1 / 50 is default and to 1 / 125 to be changed?

1 / 50 would be enough to not quite blurred, as in 1 / 25. The shorter the exposure time, the more crispy, the movements are (= sharper frames).

And last but not least, @ "Adolf Hitler": If you like something is underexposed, can it?

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Antwort von PowerMac:

But hello!

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