Frage von Clemensch:
Hello dear Slashcam community
should my first flight next week to shoot photographs from a helicopter.
Since it's the first time, I already racking my head on the end. Here, however, had already made recordings from those who nem helicopter and I can probably write a small review of experience and perhaps a par hints what to give notice as is possible to get still images.
With Tripod one can probably not be shooting. What can I use for tools? etc. etc.
'm Looking forward to your answers
Greetings
Clemens
Antwort von Kar.El.Gott:
Presumably you will fly, or cut away from open-door, at least I always do so.
Eighth sg Downwash on, this is the downdraft of the blades, they can already completely press the Camera.
Had these problems when the client wanted to fly with his wife in the helicopter, had on the back bench too little space, and therefore constantly received blows on the Lens.
Nochwas: Even the best camera is bad in the long run, when he looks at extreme flight maneuvers only through the viewfinder. Even experienced in the recordings at low level for a golf course ...
Not play the hero, but say the pilot know! Usually two minutes suspended rich and the nose in the wind have to stabilize your balance system.
Antwort von Clemensch:
Thank God :-)
Have you perched on the page you're out and with a belt has been secured, or did you get out of the backseat filmed?
Like your recordings are made? Reasonably quiet? Have you filmed without aids?
Where is your Lens is posted?
Can one look at your pictures somewhere?
Thank you and best regards
Clemens
Antwort von Pianist:
With Tripod one can probably not be shooting. About what kind of suspension system provides for the helicopter? Usual sowas like a Skymount or Tyler mount, would s.besten with gyroscopic stabilizer. It is only important that you will not forget your camera plate, because the dadrauf be mounted. And then always stay in the long shots, ranzoomen You can just forget it. It is important that you tell the pilot beforehand exactly what is at stake, and then continuously during the flight give instructions how to fly.
Matthias
Antwort von newsart:
I always wonder again, with how much "courage (beginner, and apparently synonymous client here) to go to work. I have now over 450 film / Stillimage flight hours in helicopters, hot air balloon, airship ... behind me. With a flying time of about 1500 Euro Price without Camera, Operator, suspension or Wescam / Skycam I find it more than courage to accept such a job without having a couple of times as have been sitting in with Assi Heli. I want to make you not be afraid. But man can at Heli-shots when they make a little bit to be dynamic, an awful lot wrong, and pay an awful lot the hard way. It is exactly as for underwater shots. I had as a principal, I would never even come up with the idea to immerse yourself. But to be not entirely destructive: without suspension, you can complete the bend. A Tyler / Seitenmont is the least for news photographs. Actually, I would highly recommend a heli with experienced film pilots and Nosemount / down gyro system installed. The camera is then controlled by joystick and an operator as synonymous with helping experience. If I really wanted to address all the mistakes I've made, I would still tap hours. My tip: rent at the first inserts an experienced crew and sit watching beside it. Then, Step-By-Step to take responsibility ...
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Antwort von Pianist:
Actually, I would highly recommend a heli with experienced film pilots and Nosemount / down gyro system installed. But the costs have multiplied. This must be dazusagen correctly. Of course, the quality of the images is with (a gyroscopic system, whether Wescam, FLIR, or Cineflex) is absolutely sensational, you can see as long tele shots with no wobble. But it can pay for itself just synonymous expensive.
In a normal suspension, where draufmacht own camera, you should just remain largely a mid-shot, and can thus rotate more overview images. For my purposes, which is usually sufficient. And then you just are only about $ 15 per flight minute plus the rent for the Mount.
Matthias
Antwort von newsart:
15 Euro per flight minute is probably the "list price" of Hubis. But now times counting wg arrival / departure time, permits, standby times. Weather. I have not seen hardly a job, if not we had a good four-, five-figure sum often even on the clock. And then the customer wants synonymous, that the images s.end look so fluid and dynamic as in the movie. That's the problem. The call for low-cost production is now time often do not coincide with the viewing habits of customers. Since I prefer to go with Flir on number-Secure and tell the customer the (; price) and the differences that it is quite cheap, just its price value.
Antwort von Clemensch:
Thanks for your answers and information,
I need overview images from space Garmisch (; Grainau, Mittenwald, green ..)
This I have already printed photographs of Google Earth to discuss the route with the pilot.
We have asked ourselves in Tyrol near Knaus, who demanded ¬ 22 a minute!
Does anyone know, perhaps in the vicinity of Garmisch an experienced film pilots in Flies cheaper, and a lender for the mount system?
Of course I would s.liebsten with a gyroscope system, such as the Cineflex work, but as I said, is halt ne ask price! And like I said Newsart hatt if you rent a system and had no experience, you should immediately synonymous with a crew rents.
If someone is interested and can demonstrate the necessary references and equipment, I can not imagine anyone Book synonymous with the person and look over their shoulder!
Greetings
Clemens
Antwort von newsart:
With Knaus you can fly safely. Synonymous with whom I have already rotated.
Gladly we stand / I am you as a FLIR operator or cameraman available. Hubi experience and "references" did I and my staff a lot.
If I had to turn down as I would with the Heli-(making team from South Geretsried and the Mediacopter; http://www.heliteam.com/de/film-amp-tv-produktion.html). reference movies you'll find plenty on the net. Certainly not the cheapest, but ...
If you have a detailed briefing and need assistance, you can email me times. Info (; at) newsart (; dot) de.
Regards
Antwort von Clemensch:
Heli Team South would indeed wircklich Perfect. There have asked today what the cost would be (; Flir System, Flir-Operater (; 900th -!) Pilot, etc., about 10,000). Unfortunately, the budget that exceed our customers!
@ Newsart where you are flying with Knaus, since you have been working with the Wescam? or is it better to work with a mount?
Greetings
Clemens
Antwort von newsart:
I'd have to look for commands in the accounts. We have a Knaus times with aerial views of the Bärenwalt in Arbesbach made. But some time ago. I would prefer the Wescam a side mount. But that depends on the area of operation. Peaceful panoramas go synonymous with the Tyler mount from the open door. Sporty, dynamic overflights not before. Alone already, because with the open Hubi Page for / has speed limits. Only define the look, then discuss the possibilities with the pilot, then select Hubi, then select a camera system, then decide operator, then check calculation, then check weather, then fly - something like this ...
Antwort von TiMovie:
Without've read through everything --
I did enjoy it, three times already received to make a heli!
Is easy to hang geil in 3000 meters height with half the upper body from the helicopter - I'll tell you ass cold - have to fly to the devaluing my cheeks flaming so right!
Low budged - Aerial Photos
1. What worked well, was a luggage strap (;) Rubber
s.Heli connect with the action and if you put you out of the helicopter hanging out the rubber band under tension! Has worked reasonably well! (; mist - what a German?) You should, if possible, get as close as possible s.dein motive, because without Special equipment did you use when shooting Teligen always shake on it!
2. Set your shutter to minimize motion blur higher, so you can then if necessary make a motion stabilization!
3. Right here have fun, and try to enjoy the flight synonymous with einwenig! My next flight is synonymous with hopefully soon!
Greeting TiMovie
