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Frage von jakson1958:


Hello!
My path has been on Super 8 - Hi 8 to Mini DV. Many years ago bought: Panasonic NV-DX100.

I know myself well in the photograph from synonymous and know all the latest model with all its advantages u.Nachteilen. Have eg. NIKON D to 300th
I have already filmed a long time. Can my Panasonic for this course, but I thought to myself, the technology is well advanced with HDTV.

Now I have a few journals (test) and read something here in the forum and unfortunately I know now is not anymore.
ALL ONE BIG mess!

As a layman, I have the impression that the video producers probably something vastly wrong in the past. So many different systems - follow some questionable - poor picture quality than before, etc.

Hey - I just want the best picture quality and good sound. ... and without great study device (I am already with plenty of other much more complex areas and can / will not be synonymous with a camcorder to do).

Help me please but ignorant and says with, if I worsen with ... (eg what I know. Canon HV 30; SonyHC 9; SonySR 12??)
and I prefer my "old" Panasonic DV should remain ... or what?

Dignity around about 1100, - to invest.

Thank you for your honest opinion!

Regards

jakson1958

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

Short and concise

HV30

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Antwort von Jogi:

"jakson1958" wrote: Hello!
Help me please but ignorant and says with, if I worsen with ... (eg what I know. Canon HV 30; SonyHC 9; SonySR 12??)
and I prefer my "old" Panasonic DV should remain ... or what?

Dignity around about 1100, - to invest.

Thank you for your honest opinion!

Regards

jakson1958


HV 30 and synonymous SR12 are in this price class secure good equipment.
Both draw but in different formats. The HV30 HDV = to = SR12 AVCHD.
The SR12 offers a little more leeway in the manual intervention options. In the weak light field both tend not to shine.
It always comes s.was and when it will be filmed and later whether a processing is carried out. AVCHD is still a high performance s.den cutting machine. HDV can be today with all the usual good NLE editing.

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Antwort von darklord77:

Hi,

The HV30 is very good. The material is fine with the usual cut editing programs. The calculator should be but not quite as old.

Yes, best picture and sound quality without you deal with the matter you will get nowhere. Do you have a device for ¬ 10,000 to buy and it will not be achieved if you do not really know what you do. Is almost everywhere.

Tip for good photos:
Light!

Tip for good sound:
Low Cut (High Pass) and
Compressor,
ext. Microphone

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Antwort von immanuelkant:

I recommend you the SonyHDR-HC9 (HDV-Camera): very robust, good picture, good sound and excellent handling (ergonomics).

For direct comparison of HV30 and HC9 there are various threats in the forum, if you want more comprehensive information.

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Antwort von jakson1958:

Hello!

First s.alle sincere thanks for your opinion!

Unfortunately, I still do not now what, because you have recommended:

1) HV 30
2) HV 30 or SR 12
3) HV 30
4) HC 9

OK, the HV 30 was s.meisten said. Probably a good choice.
Now I read here on the homepage that:

"For the first 3-chip AVCHD cams with MOS technology (HDC-SD100 and HDC-HS100), Panasonic Japan has today two new AVCHD models, available in the Sept. 08 ..."
see here: http://www.slashcam.de/news/single/Erstmals-3-Chip- AVCHD cams-with-MOS technology - HD-6988.html

What now? Should I use the Canon HV 30 or SonySR 12 - or the new 3-chip Panasonic wait? If the new Panasonic are really better, then I would wait if necessary synonymous.

Please tell me again your expert opinion.

Many thanks in advance!

Regards

jakson1958

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Antwort von immanuelkant:

You might want to have a separate opinion. They need you but with the alternatives and the whole matter synonymous deal, for example:
- Can I cut the problem with my calculator AVCHD editing (HDV editing is easier, because less compressed)? Or
- What is to me at the Camera s.wichtigsten, what will I do with it? Because it can even a knockout for one or other type camera!
- What follow-up investments, there is at what Model?

You do it for you here - so I think - a little too easy ...

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Antwort von Jan:

When I read this thread, then dam is already the hormones.

Why did the stupid human habit to always have this fear, for something wrong to be able to decide?

No ordinary citizen is a big difference between a 30 and a HV HC 9 note. The respective technical advantages like Lanc, wide, 25 P etc should be for himself but already clarified. A larger difference is seen only when a user is a very conscientious Comparison with two! Models simultaneously makes.

If you knew how much my clients with a Camera letztplazierten a test are satisfied. I did last week I caught myself by getting the winner in the sky have praised after prolonged discussion with the client but had noticed that the Viertplazierte for him is much better-suited synonymous if the penultimate place in a test of a well-known video magazine has demonstrated.

Yes, there will always be a new camera technology Camera & appear when you are going, you're dead before you ever recorded your important memories searched.

I am not at all synonymous sure whether the new Pana the current models will surpass it. There are still small sensors installed, the sensor Resolutionpro is only slightly increased (600,000) - this is still far too little, what a Semiconsumer can. There are 3 CMOS with installed per 1 mio. A MOS will be an extremely CMOS synonymous not surpass, especially if it is a consumer chip is cheaper.

Lowlighttechnisch the Pana with great certainty better than the previously published SD 9 & HS 9, but in the sharpness? Since I have my doubts.

What do I want?
What features s.einer Camera & Connections are important to me?
DV editing, with what conditions?
Areas where the shots?
Which camera system I imagine, with what system, I could not live at all? etc. etc.

Immanuelkant his view is in any case more appropriate.

VG
Jan

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Antwort von Daigoro:

"jakson1958" wrote: Can my Panasonic for this course, but I thought to myself, the technology is well advanced with HDTV.


If you want a new camera, because you're dissatisfied with the current art (which may be because not up to the higher resolution - if you know, do you know actually auto, what new can be better), or because the technique so far advanced?

If we would try 1:1 with the technical progress (and sometimes synonymous Rueck-) would be phased keep long we broke.

Quote: Why did the stupid human habit to always have this fear, for something wrong to be able to decide?

Is holding a lot of money for a hobby, usually only second or third hobby is.
And thanks to the Internet to get information quickly s.massig who actually simple decisions rather complicate than simplify.
Earlier is in the shop, because there's halt to 5 models Choice and one of them has taken what's in their own budget has folded.

HV30 I find the price / Leistungsverhaeltnis well and would buy it myself if I at this moment felt the irresistible urge to purchase a new camera (with the thought I already play longer, but the old still does it and the money in the bank is not bad ).
Maybe I'm still beating during the year if no other interesting cameras on the market - or not.

HC9 may well be synonymous, but priced a bit higher and touch screen -> I do not like.

Maximum AVCHD cameras if they would be a lot cheaper than the two HDVs - then I would have my calculator with the same upgrade, because I do not want to be back on the hour-long Render orgies.

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Antwort von Meggs:

The NV-DX100 belonged then to the upper class. The HV30 is HDV, but rather a better entry-level device.
HDV is complex and more expensive than DV. If you now want HDV camcorder, the total level of DX100 moves, you have more than 1100 euros. Very good picture and good sound at appropriate facilities to offer more the Canon A1.

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Antwort von immanuelkant:

"Daigoro" wrote: ...
HV30 I find the price / Leistungsverhaeltnis well and would buy it myself if I at this moment felt the irresistible urge to purchase a new camera (with the thought I already play longer, but the old still does it and the money in the bank is not bad ).
Maybe I'm still beating during the year if no other interesting cameras on the market - or not.

HC9 may well be synonymous, but priced a bit higher and touch screen -> I do not like.

.....


The Canon - and Sony models have against pros and cons that each must weigh for themselves. In addition, there are so many articles and threads, for example http://forum.slashcam.de/1000-sucher-hd-gt-welche-cam-vt59793.html

I have also compared both for me and me for the HC9 of Sonyentschieden. Rash gave me better quality, better ergonomics, better control, the existing LANC port and the improved sound.
BTW: The touch screen of the HC9 can incidentally amateur positive sides to offer!

So therefore you have to answer the question, what is important to you or what you buy the new camera will ... and subsequent (post-workflow) Note!

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Antwort von Markus:

"Jan" wrote: Why did the stupid human habit to always have this fear, for something wrong to be able to decide?
This fear is basically of the manufacturers who are, because there are so constantly new models, which allegedly is still better and cheaper to be on the market. Actually, should ensure that people regularly buy something new, but instead many are wondering whether it is worth even more to wait?

Comparison to earlier is the choice of a camcorder really difficult. Due to the very short product cycles are so constantly a new camcorder in front of the door and while still collecting information and for a specific model decides to just disappear from the market of this model and the search begins again. That we had so many various synonymous.

Me personally wurmt the synonymous, since the new models (thanks to the rigor Manufacturer - everything must always be even cheaper) is not necessarily better than the previous.

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Antwort von veejay:

HV 30 find ich gut

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Antwort von Conducator:

tja, and I stand on HC9 of Sony!
That is just life;)

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Antwort von veejay:

HC9 find synonymous well, I'm just a bit too sparingly

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Antwort von Conducator:

Have my HC9 purchased for 830 EUR. Is the HV30 so much cheaper (including additional micro;))?

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Antwort von Daigoro:

Theoretically, about 800 with 100 euro cash back of Canon.
Unfortunately, most stores since the beginning of this action, the Cashback Prices grad look around and raised 100 euros for questionable gray and HongKong Cams halt, there's no cash back.

The type is not much, but I have a fundamental aversion to touch screen (can be synonymous s.meinen lubrication fingers lie - in which degree weather, I would like to make as little as possible to touch garnix already, where I still want to look through) and would give the maximum in Purchase, if the camera is cheap, and not expensive.

(also, the HC9 as far as I know no 25p - synonymous if not for everyday sooooohoho is important if one's a lot of network, or 'staged Filmmässig' but what Videographiert isses ne nice times at least the option to have).

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Antwort von immanuelkant:

"Daigoro" wrote: ... have a fundamental aversion to touch screen (can be synonymous s.meinen lubrication fingers lie - in which degree weather, I would like to make as little as possible to touch garnix already, where I still want to see through) ...
Well, the screen is very good and synonymous in direct sunlight so useful. Focus, Aperture, or you can manually control synonymous to set a hardware button.
Also: You can tap with an object in the display of the touch screen exposure and / or Focus on the object (car) optimize. That is for amateurs almost a manual entry into the film - although the automatic functions of the HC9 quite delivers perfect pictures. I got them to me as "fast times from the pocket and go - second camera bought and am very pleasantly surprised.

"Daigoro" wrote: ... (also, the HC9 as far as I know no 25p - synonymous if not for everyday sooooohoho is important if one's a lot of network, or 'staged Filmmässig' but what Videographiert isses ne nice times at least the option to have) .

then need to hold only one of the TV is 25p. Of which there are not many ... (I have one of the can's, but need not ;-))

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Daigoro" wrote: ... have a fundamental aversion to touch screen (can be synonymous s.meinen lubrication fingers are ...
My single touch-screen experience so far, I have made with the HC1, and s.der quite disturbed other things, so that the touch screen not too negatively noticed ;-) But what is the lubrication finger, there is a proven Trick: Not as usual, with the greasy fingertip tapping on it, but the hand just flip the display and only touch with a fingernail. The camera reacts to it and the screen just stays clean (er).

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von Daigoro:

"immanuelkant" wrote:
"Daigoro" wrote: ... (also, the HC9 as far as I know no 25p - synonymous if not for everyday sooooohoho is important if one's a lot of network, or 'staged Filmmässig' but what Videographiert isses ne nice times at least the option to have) .

then need to hold only one of the TV is 25p. Of which there are not many ... (I have one of the can's, but need not ;-))


As I said: "for the network's" (ie the Internet - not Youtube, but download to a much higher quality). Since I'm usually too lazy twenty, thirty to copy DVDs and with the the 'viral' Copy never until the last bank working, I have now for our club NEN video server and download the movies as high again for download.
That will almost always synonymous viewed s.Calculator and the Progressive equal opportunity to film is a welcome dreingabe.

Touch Screen workarounds: as I said, there's the cheaper camera, or if they were clearly better than the competition, which would ne alternative. It is not unusable, but uncomfortable for me.

But these are all very specific and subjective reasons and considerations.

How well I could watch grad, is this "buy fear" synonymous happy in the network by such subjective EXPRESSION (so please do not let them infect).
I for information about a specific LCD Television searched the eye I've taken - as he came onto the market, positive reviews, both of the users as synonymous of the trade (for the price it was a good 'allround' Picture-ie cable analog / SD / DVB-T, Digital Satellite Receiver, BluRay player, computer / console attested).

Then as in the course of 2-3 weeks of protracted discussion came Auesserungen that problems with bad pictures / colors, Clouding, 24p Jerkiness were found immediately and the readers were worried.
Then a devastating test of a large computer magazine (which is obvious with the device have not addressed - practically everything that was criticized in previous tests and noticed s.den is unfavorable factory settings).
Could it be partly elucidated (devices were connected via Scart been partially totally incorrect settings, etc.), but the original allegations have stubbornly held every second and went back again to - "I've read that you can not watch football / BluRay Jerkiness disks, etc., etc. " .

Did I have fun.
Werd I still get the Television - under 1000 euro's is the perfect device anyway not exist.

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Antwort von Conducator:

"Daigoro" wrote: ... as I said, there's the cheaper camera, or if they were clearly better than the competition, which would ne alternative. It is not unusable, but uncomfortable for me.

But these are all very specific and subjective reasons and considerations ...


You say it so thank God for the final itself, all subjective! HV20/30 and HC7 / 9 are on the same level. No round is perfect. Well, and - as already written - the price difference is marginal. It is possible the HV30 is more expensive than buying the HC9.

Each of the cameras in general has a tie certain advantages and disadvantages that each member must consider, because each with different priority to certain functions guckt.

Who eh overdubbed with additional microphones or works, the problem may be the sound of HV20/30 perhaps be no preference.
And just who is filming in bright sunshine, which is the Picture of HV20/30 the HC7 / 9 maybe wg. the slight sharpness advantage to prefer. Lowlight For then the decision goes the other way around from.
The next disturbs the touchscreen and the other finds it quite awesome that he "just with a Fingertip" when Sonyein object can s.Bildrand focus. And anyway who only has to film fully automatic, comes Sony's s.den not pass anyway.
Well, and who then 25p is important. HDV because he's on the Internet, which opts for just the Canon.

One more: when I watch the threats, I will not get rid of the feeling that the Canons of the FireWire with significantly more Firewire chipsets in PCs collide as the interface s.den Sony cameras. So when Canon s.Besten a 1a-brand motherboard with Firewire use, otherwise the film remains perhaps indelibly marked on the tape of the Canon!

Conclusion: the thread creator has to get himself to worry about what he actually with the new Camera to be procured will start :-))

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Antwort von jakson1958:

THANK YOU for your answers!

... I wanted to decide for me now

1) Canon HF 100

or any alternatives would be:

2) Sony SR 12
3) Canon HV 30

Unfortunately, in my city now. not a business this camcorder Stock to view or test.

On the Web, I have of the above camcorder videos found
http://www.vimeo.com/
which actually is not all good. Ausgefranzt The edges are rough and grainy, blurred and the colors as an old, bad movie, etc.

IS IN THE RIGHT ON THE TV AT HOME Even so ?????

Presumably, the data for transmission minimized? Or how when you see the results of their own videos?

Unfortunately I have now. no comparison possible and know not synonymous with this film anderern camcorders.

Thank you for your reply!

Regards

jakson1958

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

That will probably sI Net-enabled stream codec is really nobody know the full quality video to its network is / the stream is.

Take the HF10/100 or AGM 20/30 or the Sony All 3 very good for the money.

MfG
B. DeKid

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Antwort von immanuelkant:

"jakson1958" wrote: THANK YOU for your answers!

... I wanted to decide for me now

1) Canon HF 100

or any alternatives would be:
....
jakson1958


Maybe you betray the people so times that you have discussed here, l which is why you have so decided. Why favorisierst you with the HF100 AVCHD?

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Antwort von jakson1958:

"immanuelkant" wrote: "jakson1958" wrote: THANK YOU for your answers!

... I wanted to decide for me now

1) Canon HF 100

or any alternatives would be:
....
jakson1958


Maybe you betray the people so times that you have discussed here, l which is why you have so decided. Why favorisierst you with the HF100 AVCHD?


Hello!

I have different lists of videos and read newspapers because it was around 1,000, - ¬ the Canon HF 100 with one of which the highest scores. I had previously recorded on tapes, but according to the Tetberichten a "tapeless" inzischen of the HF 10 or HF 100 just as good. The import to the PC will be faster (no time) and it saves money for the tapes. Synonymous belief that the storage media or hard drive card the future.
Of course, the same tapes synonymous longer storage media, but I will soon be in all my previous tape-video 's on the PC and then just type in addition to 2 external hard disks for backup. Later on Blue Ray.

So no, I wanted to tape-Canon HV 30 more. Moreover, yes the sound by reducing noise in some areas be very dull. This is synonymous with external Micro.

The SONY SR 11 or 12 did not come into question, as some owners in forums very complained about the autofocus or the Cam therefore gave back. Supposedly, the SONY SR 11/12 long sharp or partially incorrect. That is what I wanted but in no case.

After all I then remained on the Canon HF 10/100 left.
Unfortunately I was not yet the possibility of including them in the hand to take or to test. In our city there is only the media and the market at the moment has almost no choice here. Everything around 350-550 ¬.

Liege wrong with me because of my choice (Canon HF 100)?

Many greetings

jakson1958

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

No. With the Cam can "only partially" wrong, namely when it comes to the editing of the material goes. Because at the moment but a similar debate is here

Can you look like, but I think that you with the HF series "Future-proof" are underway.

Alla
MfG
B. DeKid

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Antwort von immanuelkant:

"jakson1958" wrote:
Liege wrong with me because of my choice (Canon HF 100)?

Many greetings

jakson1958

Yes, I would have been as synonymous as DeKid replied.
Insofar as you have asked and answered are: Is my calculator for AVCHD editing from DV or must I now synonymous still buy a new PC? This concerns both the hardware, the very high dimensions should be (much faster and working memory, quad-core processor) and of course the software is synonymous to the principle and can be properly.

Yet what about your decision "method": Lists of magazines can provide clues course *.
But different people have you here in this thread trying to explain that the differences here in the thread mentioned cameras are usually so low that you really have to think next step should be: What will I do with it themselves? What detail is important to me? Which Camera is best for my needs, my accessories (eg synonymous Calculator) and behavior.

No one can here you say, if YOU are right or wrong decision searched.

* Best of the Lists: Before a test, the tester usually (relatively willkührlich) points for each property defined as a test-scale fixed. Then things unequal s.einem scale measured by comparability. The result is then a result. - If you now but the scale only a little change (number of points and money points and cutting and quantity of evaluated properties), then immediately synonymous change the outcome, that is synonymous Such results are very relative!
In addition, it is synonymous always reckon that s.der of very personal taste testers or editorial influence there or b) even money of one or the other manufacturer (eg advertisements). So never any tests overestimate!

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Antwort von ics1702:

Hello,
So I have decided for the HF100 because I think that the recording on memory cards has the most advantages. A hard drive makes noises and is on vacation someday full. Tape drives are still loud and mechanically fragile.
The memory cards are synonymous always cheaper. For 16 GB, you pay (4 hours in the highest AVCHD Auflöung) no more 50 euros. In a year they will probably get for 20 euros.
Sure, you need a quick calculator for the editing software, but in 1-2 years because no one speaks more of and you get such a calculator at Aldi for 400 euros.
These have the advantage that I am not in real time the film on the calculator must bring me clearly voted for AVCHD.

The Canon HF100 get at Amazon for 777 euros. 100 Euro Cash Back of Canon 675 euros. As should the SR11, SR12 or s.Vorteilen offer quite a bit, but besides the monitor I only read of disadvantages compared to the HF100.

If you always have about 1100 Euros, then I would take the HF100 and if needed my calculator with the remaining money to upgrade.

Gruß Thomas

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Antwort von Conducator:

The new Canons do not have a LANC. Would I have a KO!

Also, I cut my videos today and not tomorrow when it is sufficiently oversized calculator in the future.
My Conclusion: If the cut is a tough act, then you do not want more new material to shoot!
I had 3.5 years before the theater through with HDV. Since the latest PCs were synonymous only bad compromises. Never again!

Therefore I would be at the moment is still to decide for HDV (I did 2 months ago still synonymous thought HC9E bought one) - in 1-2 years may be different. But maybe I will not AVCHD but XDCAM EX ;-)

Thus, each holding his reasons!

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Antwort von jakson1958:

"ics1702" wrote: Hello,

Sure, you need a quick calculator for the editing software ...

... then I would take the HF100 and if needed my calculator with the remaining money to upgrade.

Gruß Thomas


Hi Thomas!

Thank you for your message.
Exactly the same considerations, I would like synonymous and therefore I will soon synonymous to buy Canon HF 10/100. To cut, I have currently. anyway no time, but maybe later in years. Would like at the moment only preserve family situations.

You write that I need a quick calculator .... But how fast should it be? Can you give me the characteristics of a satisfactory personal computers?

Many greetings

jakson

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Antwort von ics1702:

Hello,
the calculator should have an Intel percent with 4 cores have. At best, it is probably time to get a Quad 6600 and the purchase of 2,4 Ghz to 2.6 Ghz or higher clock. (MSI or ASUS motherboard and good fan!)
2-3 GB of RAM (more 32-bit Windows can not anyway) and a graphics card with 3750 or 3850 GPU, I would take.

The HF10 would be too expensive. The cost about 200 euros more and only has the 16 gb internal memory as opposed to HF100. The memory cost only 50 euros.

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Antwort von Conducator:

"ics1702" wrote: Hello,
the calculator should have an Intel percent with 4 cores have. ....

I can only agree!

"ics1702" wrote: Hello,
2-3 GB of RAM (more 32-bit Windows can not anyway) ....

AVCHD requires a lot of memory, because the editing software for cutting each of the keyframes from the frames of the interfaces out-and back again synonymous must expect (and then temporarily stored in memory must / should).
Therefore, on Windows 64bit more and more memory go. Hold for 4GB more appropriate.

As the Board recommend I have a Asus P5. This has worked for the general DV editing with Quad worth.

Finally, you have to think about synonymous software, which of course support AVCHD natively and then must be synonymous with AVCHD deal effectively white. Pinnacle Studio 11/12 are as yet as s.meisten performance.

This can then cut AVCHD - BUT: Even with this configuration you will be at work AVCHD significantly tougher than in DV or HDV!
If you only do if you are a patient and disciplined man bist;)

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Antwort von ics1702:

In a 64-bit operating system, I would tend to 8 Gb Memory advise. But with Vista 64 you could have problems with the drivers get. Manufacturer Not all have 64 bit drivers ready.

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Antwort von schorsemoppel:

"ics1702" wrote: For 16 GB, you pay (4 hours in the highest AVCHD Auflöung) no more 50 euros. In a year they will probably get for 20 euros.


2 hours in the highest resolution (8 GB per hour).

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Antwort von marsteini:

If you already NEN new PC want / need to take look at NEN Mac, which are perfectly suited for DV editing. Either a MacBookPro with Dual Core (I honestly do not believe that HD really needs 4 core, so most of Apps but do not yet properly!) Or a MacPro with quad or 8-core now. This can not go wrong.
As a software FinalCutExpress / pro, depending on the budget. The advantage s.Intel Macs is that they generally work 64 demonstrates that you can be credible on the MacPro 32GB RAM extend as far as I know ...

lg
marsteini

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Antwort von immanuelkant:

... one can clearly synonymous to a Mac DV editing services! Do not!
... and for HD-cut principle, no one needs 4 core - for the AVCHD format, but it!

PS. As far as I've noticed here, is currently Magel missing software native AVCHD editing on the Mac do not (you must be with an intermediary codec work). So always nice slow!

Oh yes, and make 'before you: there's 64bit on the PC (under Windows) synonymous. The Intel-Mac is the way a PC - only without Windows ;-)

Dear Mac'ies listens but finally here at all (Windows) PC users compulsively want to convert (or is Apple 'ne church?). The times where the extra editing DV on a Mac needed, since a number of years past. Who is on Mac, to buy 'nen who the Mac and PC with Windows might take hold of the. Is pure matter of taste. Everyone's how he likes!

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Antwort von marsteini:

"immanuelkant" wrote: Oh yes, and make 'before you: there's 64bit on the PC (under Windows) synonymous. The Intel-Mac is the way a PC - only without Windows ;-)

Dear Mac'ies listens but finally here at all (Windows) PC users compulsively want to convert (or is Apple 'ne church?). The times where the extra editing DV on a Mac needed, since a number of years past. Who is on Mac, to buy 'nen who the Mac and PC with Windows might take hold of the. Is pure matter of taste. Everyone's how he likes!


Exactly, you're saying is yes - as any he's like - because then why should only Windows PCs are mentioned? I mean that it is appropriate to mention Macs, I have not tried to convert him or force him something.

And also, here agrees with your logic once again not - just because it is a PC, it must not necessarily run Windows - even something of alternative platforms heard? Also on Unix / Linux can be cut videos - ok, not a AVCHD (yes, the Mac still is not synonymous), but it works. And just because the manufacturer too lazy / incapable of intelligent software for the Mac / Linux to make ...
There are some people synonymous happy with the cutting Casablanca - synonymous a normal PC!: ..

And yes I know synonymous, that there are 64-bit Windows. But then why are most Vista versions sold in 32-bit? If dadran that a purchase at a normal PC or a requirement that there is no gscheiten drivers there? I have nothing against Windows, it even use their own (like).
But überleg times but I wanted him to say, everyone has their own opinion - but it will probably still be allowed?

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Antwort von immanuelkant:

"marsteini" wrote: ... here agrees with your logic once again not
The "lack of logic" to let out. Since I have nothing to write again. Can there still time to read ....

"marsteini" wrote: ... ok, although not AVCHD (yes, the Mac still is not synonymous), but it works. And just because the manufacturer too lazy / incapable of intelligent software for the Mac / Linux to make ...

Aha! And so it is already not very useful one for AVCHD DV editing for the moment to recommend a Mac (not synonymous for the sake of completeness), or?

Sun, and now I think I get out of here, because it's slow is plenty Offtopic! Bye!

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"marsteini" wrote: ... no AVCHD (yes, the Mac still is not synonymous) ...
Everyone should be happy with the what s.besten like him, but the personal decision-making is better served when the facts remain: AVCHD editing on the Mac is definitely possible.

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von marsteini:

"immanuelkant" wrote: "marsteini" wrote: ... here agrees with your logic once again not
The "lack of logic" to let out. Since I have nothing to write again. Can there still time to read ....


The same is true for you then synonymous. Either you can or do not understand me, I'm sorry. But no preference, I am this "religious wars" lately fed. And you have so synonymous right that everyone should take what he likes.
But the thread creator has now times after a computer search of the pack. You said you'd take NEN PC - I have said it could be synonymous get a Mac. Now he can s.Hand these facts to decide what he likes s.besten (called the free formation of opinions).

Wiso regst you then so on - in haste above HV30 and HC9 synonymous not done, and this is my view from the gleicche. "Paths, but an outcome / goal. So, more like I do not synonymous.

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Antwort von Conducator:

"marsteini" wrote:
But the thread creator has now times after a computer search of the pack. You said you'd take NEN PC - I have said it could be synonymous get a Mac. Now he can s.Hand these facts to decide what he likes s.besten (called the free formation of opinions).


So as I read, because the thread creator has said here that he has a PC, which he gfs. would like to upgrade, and he is after a minimum size PCs inquired. Then I had synonymous and others responded.
In this respect, I do not synonymous, what with the Mac s.der Recommendation body should.

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Antwort von marsteini:

Mea culpa, mea magna culpa!
Yes ok, I honestly skipped. HBA I just read the above, which he für nen how much he needs new PC, so my answer is yes and since Macs in the professional sector are very popular, I thought I stop, because if it is. Ok, then I take it all back again, what I've immanuelkant angekreidet. I'm sorry, I promise better in the future to read.

lg
marsteini

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Antwort von DWUA:

Before you once again "in the hair gets" to this tiresome topic MAC vs. PC something to breathe.
Axel saying "Na Other .... everything repeated takes for this to be synonymous:

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=qHO8l-Bd1O4

Who wants it more realistic, look at the clips 1-7:
Steve Jobs and Bill Gates at D5 together.
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=M3tUkyCRp0A&feature=related

Or:
Because type 2 Cool encourage their fans to hysterical?

Since Vista is not here synonymous worse:

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=1EbCyibkNB0

This time as a secret-makers:

We (ver) use both systems until the "More Is Not ".... also: pssssssst not betray ...

;))


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Antwort von alexanderdergrosse:

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Synonymous previously had thought everything out and her decision here, or maybe for the other, and each manufacturer has its own horses, the course, all good. It is also often discussed in forums, because the camera is the best low cost and at the same time. Certainly one can assume that many people often recommend the HV20/HV30, not without reason.
Good price-/Leistungsverhältnis.

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If you watch a HV30 up, do you do nothing wrong, if your equipment to ausbaust (Tripod, Wide Angleetc.) Film and the basic rules + sufficient light is used, the results already fernsehtauglich his, and the pictures look really good. 25 frames progressive, good lighting, clean cuts are very crucial. In the price category, the HV30 really all that synonymous without complex settings after a short time can drauflosfilmen and the quality is right then most. Only the whole must be synonymous automatic abgeschatet be that you have no pumps, etc.. By Cam, you're in the HDV secure area on the Page with good quality (already broadcast quality). You could practically Fernsehrserien thus produce. (For the field of cinema, well, with a maximum BlowUp film -> record in HDV and then start with film, but make some people) The Resolutionist much better than Pal. (But respect for classic film that is still unbeatable and makes this film look typical of Hollywood that we know). For TV productions ranging from HDVs but completely.

HV20/HV30 Cam about 800 euros

Additional equipment will cost extra of course (about 500 Extra pros):

Wide Angleca. 100-200 Euro
Good Tripod approximately 50-100 Euro
Batteries approximately Euro S.7
Cassettes each approx Euro p.10
Good editing program p.100 Euro
Micro (eg Rhode Videomic) 70-100 Euro
Filters (UV, Pol) and Tülpe about 30 euros
And of course, light (from the hardware store)

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The bottom line is you have a complete video studio incl Camera for 1500 Euros
Each of the above component contributes to the quality. (for example, makes a lot of light, tripod makes everything quiet, etc.)

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It is then s.Dir all basic cinematic practice.
The video results and reality inspire me again and again by the stool. For the price there not a better camera.

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Addendum:

We recommend a PC synonymous GHz S.2 for cutting use.

Blue-Ray burner, PS3 and HDTV, of course, also in all the necessary quality to be considered. (again from 1000 to 1500 Euros).
But I have not taken earlier because the already clear.
For rough studio equipment including camera but at least 1500 euros to invest, to the fundamental basis, with the clever then you can work.

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Antwort von Conducator:

Good post!
just the whole thing is basically just as synonymous for HC7/HC9 (and other cameras in the price class). Insofar synonymous only requires a decision-support ;-)

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Antwort von Daigoro:

"Conducator" wrote: Good post!
just the whole thing is basically just as synonymous for HC7/HC9 (and other cameras in the price class). Insofar synonymous only requires a decision-support ;-)


It's synonymous yes "decision support", not "(in) decision." :)

I am now even for a 5 HC decision (the initial garnicht so closely in the choice was, especially the touch screen is not the bringer), because at a satisfactory to good picture quality (consumer cameras) the price was attractive.
The 300 euros more to secure something better HV30/HC9/HF100 are delicious to eat more safely applied. :)

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Antwort von alexanderdergrosse:

Quote: Good post!
just the whole thing is basically just as synonymous for HC7/HC9 (and other cameras in the price class). Insofar synonymous only requires a decision-support ;-)


Yes, but one can find out for themselves by the example of videos viewed and compared. For example, on Youtube, the sample HDV video as well as the ever to be. But this potential can still recognize.

(Da gabs a video on Youtube, recorded with the HV20 on the ice, an amazing quality, then I myself was in Garmisch in the mountain, true madness, what s.Qualität rausholen can, but as I said, the whole equipment in interplay and its own cinematic experience from the quality)

Quote: The 300 euros more to secure something better HV30/HC9/HF100 are delicious to eat more safely applied. :)

Delicious food is good, but people always want a "best" camera for ausssuchen that money as possible for the next 5 years is well spent. I think, during the development of next run, the money for the HV30 be money well spent. I am also quite convinced that competing products are also a great quality.
It is often the case that innovation is no longer this persists, because the competing products very quickly follow suit. Conclusion that: At this time, some very good cameras are very similar in quality. But even offers real help to Slashcam Page. Very clear and nicely done. ;-)

http://www.camcorder-test.com/

From my own experience I can say:

Canon XH A1 for 4 thousand

Comparison to the HV30 for 1 thousand

Image quality is very similar.
The handling of the A1 is better
Camera is better in the hand,

What really can be problematic,
that the HV30 rather Consumermäßig
looks. However, as with the quality of the A1
is very similar, I can at the HV30 to the cosmetics
refrain, because I just picture
without need someone to be impressive
want. Finally, the results count.

I have long compared the 2 cams.
Bildqualitativ very similar results.
And the price for a 1000 vs 4000

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Antwort von Daigoro:

"alexanderdergrosse" wrote:
From my own experience I can say:

Canon XH A1 for 4 thousand

Comparison to the HV30 for 1 thousand

Image quality is very similar.
The handling of the A1 is better
Camera is better in the hand,


The image quality should be outside of the laboratory values and plenty of light from untrained users always difficult to distinguish his. (and I have really long to me the test images and what it s.beispielvideos for download were viewed).
As has probably the highest quality of Ausgabegeraets and the limitations of the HDV system more influence than the Camera.

I would like to synonymous ne FX7 or HX A1 - no question - but all the delicious meals I get back by haushaltskost should replace ... : D

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Antwort von alexanderdergrosse:

Quote: As has probably the highest quality of Ausgabegeraets and the limitations of the HDV system more influence than the Camera.

Yes, the HDV borders make the broken whole again. But that good lighting makes everything better. Even my old Handycam provides sufficient light for correct results, which all know. Light is the king.

What bothers me in mind is that no full-HD is possible, on the other hand, there are really people who make BlowUps of HDV. at 25% less quality compared FullHD I can still live.

It is best to drink plenty of water, then you'll feel light as feather. At least for me, I then lighter hand than with full stomach will turn, as is the whole focus on the onion stench and Furzturbulenzen etc., but we want our work with decency to the fact that the actor does not run away ;-)

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Antwort von Daigoro:

"alexanderdergrosse" wrote:
What bothers me in mind is that no full-HD is possible, on the other hand, there are really people who make BlowUps of HDV. at 25% less quality compared FullHD I can still live.


The "Full HD" swearword I deleted from my mind.

As long as not less than 2.07 million pixels-per-primary color at a sufficiently large chips to find, is somewhere getrickste anyway.

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Antwort von alexanderdergrosse:

Quote: As long as not less than 2.07 million pixels-per-primary color at a sufficiently large chips to find, is somewhere getrickste anyway.

I'm generally not a fan of technical details, (although I am fascinated by the development), but wants the results, and as long as the vote, I am satisfied so far as synonymous.

It's just that people are much more time to waste in the decision, (as I was), at this time could have created a film. I might be crazy, I'm fully in detail earlier and had steadily risen any sensors compared. Then I'm awoken from the dream and asked me "what am I doing here?", "Elektronik study or make videos?", Then I have camcorder Comparison Test and some magazine hergenommen, golden mean equal ausgepickelt and added, Cam bought. In that decision, I would have preferred phase was filmed, and what counts is synonymous fun. Technique is rather dull, and cut film is fun and just that

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Antwort von alexanderdergrosse:

jakson1958, insofar as we have helped you?

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Antwort von Conducator:

"alexanderdergrosse" wrote: ...
Yes, but one can find out for themselves by the example of videos viewed and compared. For example, on Youtube, the sample HDV video as well as the ever to be. But this potential can still recognize.
...


People, the world is not so easy! Nobody denies that the HV20/30 weather the (minimal) vs. sharper picture. HC7 / 9 make - but for a purchase that is a bit thin. Since there are lots of other criteria that each must assess for itself (processing, ergonomics, price, Connections, Sound!, Automatic functions, etc ...).

I have synonymous sample material (original quality) and viewed me in good conscience for the HC9 decided!

PS. I maintain a look at sample videos at youtube you see does not guarantee sharp difference between the cameras!

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Antwort von Daigoro:

"Conducator" wrote:
People, the world is not so easy!


The world is as easy as it does.
And usually it's easier the better.

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Antwort von Conducator:

"Daigoro" wrote:
The world is as easy as it does.
And usually it's easier the better.


The time now is certainly a mindset ;-)

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Antwort von alexanderdergrosse:

Quote: The world is as easy as it does.
And usually it's easier the better.

The time now is certainly a mindset ;-)


The world is the result of our work, our preference. Cams in the same price range are all of roughly equal quality. There is no good or bad, there are only tools we can use to good projects to perform. Be based on a single fix would be quite wrong. Here I am completely open to any offers some very different characteristics depending on the taste or inclination to come closer election. The marketing people made all the worse choice only. Everyone has his horse, of course, the best of all. What remains is our own hearts and practice comparisons.

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Antwort von immanuelkant:

"Simple" is wrong - but some people can tolerate it easier :-)

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Antwort von Daigoro:

"immanuelkant" wrote: "Simple" is wrong - but some people can tolerate it easier :-)

"Simple" is neither wrong nor right, just as "complicated" or "differentiated" wrong or right.

I see it is lunchtime in the canteen, I was covered again in question, because the break is too short. Since there is no 'right' decision, which all tastes the same modest and the chance to catch salmonella, all menus the same size. Nevertheless it is the people regularly s.der counter 5 minutes to stand and this misery synonymous nor differentiated to be considered, either instead of in a proper restaurant to go (which is when his money is in things that you can not eat) , or to what degree, fresh from the kitchen is clean - the synonymous tastes like dog food, but at least warm.

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Antwort von jakson1958:

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Dear friends!

First of all, Thank you very much for your many messages!

I have partly a guilty conscience, since some almost a little into your hair gekriegt have. But I think everything that was not so serious and everyone wants only well-meant help.

I had my son last week for a new birthday i MAC (999, -) were purchased. He is so very happy, but the handling is quite different content than on my Windows PC. I would like for me at the moment do not switch to Mac.
Hence my earlier question was how fast my PC is really his.
My PC currently has:

Computer: Intel (R)
Pentium (R) 4 CPU 3.20 GHz
3.19 GHz, 512 MB Ram
Windows XP Professional, SP3

Is probably too weak for AVCHD? or?
Especially the RAM with 512 MB Ram.

Should I then perhaps you would prefer the HV 30 nehemen. Actually, I was safe with the 100th RF
What the heck it is not a life decision and I want you all here is not synonymous with uncertainty of my next to the nerve against. That is not my art
The FAGE for me just now:

1) HF 100 nehemn and upgrade your PC (if at all possible and to
what price? )
or
2) HV 30 nehemen and the tape will remain

Cordial greetings sa lle and again ... THANK YOU ... for helpful opinions!

jakson1958

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Antwort von Daigoro:

Replace the 512MB ram with 2x1GB Riegel (unbeatably cheap at the moment), take the HV30 and was happy and satisfied for the next 5 years. :)

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Antwort von ics1702:

Purchase the HF100 and you prepare it on the PC (Prices have now fallen yet next)
http://www.tomshardware.com/de/Kaufempfehlung-Weihnachten,testberichte-239889-4.html

Then you have a top PC and a CameraLink for the future.
In 2-3 years, but HDV is only in the outlet to find models.

Gruß Thomas

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Antwort von Daigoro:

(apart from the fact that the Q6600 away of Top is the successor already on the market and the successor of the successor for a long time in development did then .. all in all, 2000 euros for carding verpulvert that you use all months and times of benefits you are looking for with the microscope have to be - actually literally)

motzmotz - I know:

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Antwort von ics1702:

"Daigoro" wrote: (apart from the fact that the Q6600 away of Top is the successor already on the market and the successor of the successor for a long time in development did then .. all in all, 2000 euros for carding verpulvert that you use all months and times of benefits you are looking for with the microscope have to be - actually literally)

motzmotz - I know:


If you have the Q6600 so übertaktest, as described in the link, then the calculator is not slower than the successor.
For about 300 euro so you can upgrade your calculator, 677 euros will cost the HF100. These are not for me 2000 euros!

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Antwort von Daigoro:

"ics1702" wrote:
For about 300 euro so you can upgrade your calculator, 677 euros will cost the HF100. These are not for me 2000 euros!


Since you do not know what the calculator is otherwise so constructed, that is a best-case estimate, which usually turns Grosch grave.
Are more realistic 500, even 600 euros.

And then you have ne Camera and a calculator and other times not strictly optional in an ordinary quality (or you feel that this a 50, - Euro WW something of the superior sharpness of the left HF?).

(quite apart from the fact that the successor synonymous over clock it - so if speed comparisons, then please with factory clock)

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Antwort von raymaker:

"Daigoro" wrote: "ics1702" wrote:
For about 300 euro so you can upgrade your calculator, 677 euros will cost the HF100. These are not for me 2000 euros!


Since you do not know what the calculator is otherwise so constructed, that is a best-case estimate, which usually turns Grosch grave.
Are more realistic 500, even 600 euros.

Mainboard reserve.
2x1GB purely for ¬ 30, ¬ 130 for Q6600, 500GB disk for 60 ¬. The upgrade is finished. If the motherboard is not packed, there's a top-P35 already for 65 ¬.

Calculator are so cheap as never before.

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Antwort von ics1702:

Hm, so I is not that what you have for upgrading your PC needs. The graphics card does not play a role synonymous and would only cost 50 euros. Power supply and housing fit securely synonymous, because it will a P4 with 3.2 GHz was. The hard drive can be rather smaller than for HDV editing. But would, on the one synonymous only cost 60 euros and on the other hard drive should be synonymous with the HV30 be exchanged if they are far too small.

Sure you can Q9xxx new processors synonymous over clock, but not so good, because otherwise the FSB because of the multiplier is clocked too high. The price-performance ratio is currently holding the overclocked Q6600 s.besten.

I truly believe that the tape had no future. There is no preference whether it be better or worse than other recording media. Electronics are always cheaper, mechanics has its price. And then the Manufacturer profit with more cameras, which do not have mechanical tape drives. The prices of memory cards is huge and increasingly bring Manufacturer AVCHD cameras on the market.

In one year, the trouble of editing AVCHD forgotten. Was synonymous with HDV s.Anfang no different.

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Antwort von Daigoro:

As long as you're not prepared it may be emerging or pay extra to go and add him to run the stuff to bring, if he's not even create, please do with such statements simply back.

(or do you that?: P)

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Antwort von ics1702:

"Daigoro" wrote: As long as you're not prepared it may be emerging or pay extra to go and add him to run the stuff to bring, if he's not even create, please do with such statements simply back.

(or do you that?: P)


?????????
Ne is klar!

He will probably even know whether he is trusted or not.
We'll show him just a few possibilities and say our opinion.

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Antwort von Daigoro:

"ics1702" wrote:
We'll show him just a few possibilities and say our opinion.


Only the "power supply and housing fit securely synonymous .." I do not know, but an allegation that after almost a guarantee sounds.
If a seller claims in writing something, it can be taken recourse to.
You just claim something, and you're out fine, the damage has in effect and the worst case of light-believers.

That is why I am careful with such statements and rate others to synonymous, because it is easy reinreitet someone - if the grade has little experience.

But if you now warrant for your assertions einzustehen, sees the matter quite differently.

And even the best-case, the 300 euros in an orderly safe filmdienlicher accessories created as a new computer, you s.and for just need to make the cut not to despair and to scrap all the garbage to throw.

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Antwort von ics1702:

I do not know what the nonsense of you is that I pay for everything and guarantee.
We are here in a forum and man shares his experiences here and how you want with its recommendations.
He must decide alone with all the consequences.

I think you feel personally attacked here, so the discussion makes no sense for me anymore. It is really everything.

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Antwort von Conducator:

would you like synonymous PC upgrade + HDV Camera recommend. (AVCHD, you can generally forget your calculator)

If you take the HV30, please make sure to compatibility of the firewire chip on your firewire card in the PC or the chip on the PC board. As with the Canon is not everyone! (The Sony's are as tolerant)

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Antwort von jakson1958:

Hello friends!

After long deliberation and after many of great tips from you all (again thank you very much for this!), I decided yesterday and ordered ... the ...

ONY S SR 12

Why now and not the Canon HF 10?

Because it has ...

- A real Viewfinder
- A large 3 "display with 921,000 pixels
- Large hard drive with 120 GB
- With active connection socket for an external Microphone
- Not so small, but slightly larger and thus more in the hands
- Photos with 7-10 million pixels (ok, extrapolated, but still)
- In test as well as the truncated HF 10
- And much more

I will in a few days and then be able to say whether it was a good choice. I hope so. The ideal Cam currently available. anyway, but I do not want to wait even longer, but just going to film.

Many greetings s.Euch all ... and I let you know how I am with the SR 12 was adopted.

jakson

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Antwort von Jogi:

"jakson1958" wrote: Hello friends!

After long deliberation and after many of great tips from you all (again thank you very much for this!), I decided yesterday and ordered ... the ...

ONY S SR 12

Why now and not the Canon HF 10?

Because it has ...

- A real Viewfinder
- A large 3 "display with 921,000 pixels
- Large hard drive with 120 GB
- With active connection socket for an external Microphone
- Not so small, but slightly larger and thus more in the hands
- Photos with 7-10 million pixels (ok, extrapolated, but still)
- In test as well as the truncated HF 10
- And much more

I will in a few days and then be able to say whether it was a good choice. I hope so. The ideal Cam currently available. anyway, but I do not want to wait even longer, but just going to film. s.Euch Greetings all ... and I let you know how I am with the SR 12 was adopted.

jakson


The "ideal" CAM will never give!

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Antwort von Conducator:

"Jogi" wrote: ...
The "ideal" CAM will never give!


I have him here synonymous tried to explain: It's always a personally reasonable for compromise. The decision is always an individual and can not be strangers in the form of a vote in the forum or the blind faith in magazines s.Testrankings "objectively" are taken.

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Antwort von jakson1958:

Hello!

O k, a "perfect camera" there is zZ.nicht.

... but I think it could be him "almost", if the Manufacturer is the opinion of the users which would shave. Technically, would be the "almost perfect camcorder" yes synonymous now possible, only the Manufacturer does not make it.

When I look at the entries so many forums to read, then it would not even so extreme, which is the film all in one camcorder combines so wish. I will spare me the bullets.

... but you should never give up hope, maybe it is indeed still the times a Manufacturer "almost perfect camcorder ... wait and see, then!

PS.
JOY !!!!!!!
My SONY SR 12 with accessories is just before 1 hour with me at the post office arrived. Tonight I will be the same times to make her forget it. :-)

Many greetings from Lower Bavaria

jakson

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Antwort von immanuelkant:

"jakson1958" wrote: Hello!

O k, a "perfect camera" there is zZ.nicht.

... but I think it could be him "almost", if the Manufacturer is the opinion of the users which would shave. ....


No, there is that (for all users) device is not perfect and will never give it synonymous!
Each user has his or her personal needs, preferences and their personal taste. There are not synonymous "the perfect bottle of wine" or the "perfect pair of shoes."

A user needs feature X and user B needs function Y. If you look at the realization but between X and Y must decide, because both (technical) excludes, then A or B will remain dissatisfied.
Illustration: who as an amateur with family goes on trips, will probably be handy for a camera looking for (eg SR12).
Who but a documentary shoot will take a lot of hardware buttons for manual camera control, rational (change-) optics and vlt. a CameraLink, which you can stabilize the shoulder. Such a camera but will tend not to holiday within the meaning of "handy" his. What is the ideal camera. The Small, the Large, Both?

And finally, develop the desires of every individual still synonymous with the offer. What is even more perfect, is tomorrow's old-fashioned, obsolete scrap.
Quite to the conclusion there is the Markenfeteschismus what helps the best equipment, if the wrong company name on it is. Canon will never build Sony and Sony not Canon ;-)

Problems his ideal camcorder to find, has only the one who does not know what he needs and wants [or whose budget is not being made].

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Antwort von jakson1958:

Hello friends!

Today I have my new Sony SR 12 and get tonight for the first time something tested.
Video - and photographing in the city and the adjacent city park.

Then on my high definition TV Pioneer 127 cm diagonal views and with my previous "Panasonic NV-DX100" directly compared.

So I'm thrilled of the difference!
The SonySR 12 is razor sharp, beautiful colors, good sound,
ease of handling, etc. synonymous and the photos are really very good.
Until now a total SUPERAntiSpyware purchase for me. I look forward to the next film opportunities.

The only thing I noticed is that the autofocus is somewhat slow. If, however, are synonymous s.der attitude or whatever. I must be more closely. But otherwise all the top before.

Cordial greetings from Nierbayern

jakson

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Antwort von Conducator:

"jakson1958" wrote: Hello friends!

Today I have my new Sony SR 12 and get tonight for the first time something tested. ...
Then on my high definition TV Pioneer 127 cm diagonal views and with my previous "Panasonic NV-DX100" directly compared.
So I'm thrilled of the difference !....


These "aha-effect" when did you try out pretty much every HD camera had. But, it makes us happy here, of course massive, after all that you need your decision now're happy.

Just as you here with text attributes work, you zoom and pan the film synonymous happy, right?

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Antwort von jakson1958:

Quote: These "aha-effect" when did you try out pretty much every HD camera had. But, it makes us happy here, of course massive, after all that you need your decision now're happy.

Just as you here with text attributes work, you zoom and pan the film synonymous happy, right?


Hello!

Presumably it will be that the "aha-effect" for every HD-Cam is available. Current lack of comparison, I am now of course the Sony surprised and pleased that I have with the Cam-purchase does not have to wait, because if I have movies, then I later just for the currently synonymous. Best Picture (ok, in this 1000, - class).

"Zoom and Schwenke" already, but not synonymous exaggerated or heck table. But you're right in a way that in my veins is still a large part of the S / 8 filmmaker's - just evolved. I did stop at that time about 13 years with my first Farmer S / 8 of my father and get a gift since filmed.

But as written, until now, I'm thrilled of the 12th SONY SR
Next, I would like to have a really fast PC or MAC growth. When I cam. The program was synonymous "Vegas Pro 8 as the full version already settled. I would also like all the previous films (S / 8 + Hi 8 + DV) on a hard drive disk. This is a very nice `s work for the winter.

Can I have two questions? :

1) Is your PC or MAC best if both are similarly fast? Give this
about 1500 - to 2000, - ¬. (Please do not PC / MAC-religious war here - but only briefly your experience and opinion. THANK YOU!)

2) digitizing of S/8-Shooting on DVD / hard drive: Can someone from my own experience of this recommend a company (there are so many on the web!), Which is really good and make synonymous still "affordable" are, because I have very many S/8-Filmrollen.

Cordial greetings from Lower Bavaria

jakson


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Antwort von Conducator:

"jakson1958" wrote: Can I have two questions? :

1) Is your PC or MAC best if both are similarly fast? Give this about 1500 - to 2000, - ¬. (Please do not PC / MAC-religious war here - but only briefly your experience and opinion. THANK YOU!)



These "votes" but get nothing. The religious war you will get one way or another.

Here is my opinion: currently, in any case for the AVCHD video editing PC with Windows 64-bit and quad-core CPU and enough memory (ideally 4-8 GB).
The AVCHD implementation in the editing software Pinnacle Studio Pros / Ultimate 11/12 is generally regarded as very good (performance). Insofar synonymous this software recommendation.

PS. on the issue, there are already various threats. Perhaps the first and then sift through the remaining open questions.

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