Frage von saemjamin:
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I need a recording device for moving images. I make the time out and back with short films and clips Videokammeras borrowed from the local open channel, I assume that this is a term.
Kürlzich then I stumbled on eBay via the section analog camcorder. I am fascinated by the Prices of the camcorder to me with my untrained eye quite low for the high quality occurred?.
My question now s.das Forum: ... which devices are to be recommended? are about to recommend the device? to the lowest possible price and with lenses with a low depth of ...
I would be very happy about answers .....
With kind regards
SamJ
Antwort von Eggerd:
Hello SAM
The days of analog camcorders have been around over 11 years.
A market is only on the second hand sector.
Why. Place a high quality Analog and DV to a cheap and leave a recording of a shot in normal lighting conditions make. The difference does any layman. By analogy came DV HD and now stands still with some problems (in my opinion) in the starting blocks. You verschläfst 2 generations if you climb to analog. You always buy cheap 2 times. This statement applies to semi technology. Until now I had Panasonic MS4 SVHS
Canon XL1 Mini DV
canon XM2 Mini DV
With analog broadcast, I have not worked.
mfG Eggerder
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
Why. Place a high quality Analog and DV to a cheap and leave a recording of a shot in normal lighting conditions make. The difference does any layman. That you do not seriously so, "the cheap digital camcorder is better!" ?
Digital is not a synonym for "better than analog." An old (analog) Sony Beta will guarantee a better picture than the (digital) 70-euro Aiptek deliver. The old beta is synonymous in higher-price areas DV,
some camcorder look pale.
True s.Deiner generalizations statement is not even that there is no new analog devices anymore.
But I would advise against synonymous of analogy: all the effort to sound quality on the hard drive to make is not to be underestimated. For the analog post you need additional synonymous appropriate technology for digital is the almost standard "s.Bord".
Used equipment is always synonymous me a little skeptical.
BG
Andreas
Antwort von thos-berlin:
I do not know your budget. Remember, however, that in an analog device once a device for digitization is necessary. If you are appealing for your contributions will make OK (OK what?), You'll want to cut synonymous pleasant. This is currently s.Besten with DV and cheapest possible. (Since last synonymous nor an older PC)
Then when you get an analogue of player in the PC recordings, in my opinion really only one real AD converter with FireWire (DV, iLink, IEEE1394) in question and not the USB Grabber or any graphics cards with video-in.
Then cost you but the converters 100-150. If you're on the price of an analog camcorder heraufrechnest, are you already in the regions where you have a new computer Einchipper (perhaps even a cheap Dreichipper) can buy. New technology with warranty.
Antwort von tv-man_sh:
Digital is not a synonym for "better than analog." An old (analog) Sony Beta will guarantee a better picture than the (digital) 70-euro Aiptek deliver. The old beta is synonymous in higher-price areas DV, some camcorder look pale. Replace "pale" with "pale", and you have about it;)
Finally someone who has recognized it. I am preaching here already since ages against windmills, but the consumer (or let's call him "Digital junkie" or "junkie 1/4-Inch- CCD") will stop by the Doof-market advertising eingeprügelt "Digital Professional = ", and they believe it all kopfschüttel * *.
This is a beta 300/400er + BVW-60 + my Canopus converter (but then ask the component variant) for much less to get than many a highly computerized achso mill.
Interestingly, I recently dropped some Beta tapes in their hands, which I 1992 with a DXC-537 + PVV-1 had done. These analog recordings are 15 years old and are in a state as if they were recorded yesterday; Picture 1a without any dropouts or else magnetization errors.
But, you get the amateur is not taught, the analog broadcast equipment in order lengths is better than most DV-mills, which are already due to the A / D converter, the picture often remains on the track.
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
But, you get the amateur is not taught, the analog broadcast equipment in order lengths is better than most DV-mills, which are already due to the A / D converter, the picture often remains on the track. So are synonymous still many on the 5000-fold digital zoom come in: "Digital" simply must be better! Drum know many synonymous with the car only the binary accelerator operation ...
However ... I would like BC analog equipment now synonymous not just as an amateur drag through the area. My FX1 plus Tripod and accessories tears quite neatly s.meiner shoulder - and I'm really not hungry tick ;-)
Nice day,
Andreas
Antwort von Rene K:
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I need a recording device for moving images. I make the time out and back with short films and clips Videokammeras borrowed from the local open channel, I assume that this is a term.
Kürlzich then I stumbled on eBay via the section analog camcorder. I am fascinated by the Prices of the camcorder to me with my untrained eye quite low for the high quality occurred?.
My question now s.das Forum: ... which devices are to be recommended? are about to recommend the device? to the lowest possible price and with lenses with a low depth of ...
I would be very happy about answers .....
With kind regards
SamJ if it is an analog camcorder has to be (I think that you SVHS cam views and co searched on ebay), then please do not take on SVHS tape. concern you a MiniDV cam with analog in, or a hard disk recorder.
you might laugh, but out and back, depending on the plan I use MS5 (1 / 3 inch chip) and to directly take on mini dv. the optics is very good and that counts for me. halbwechs a reasonable unschärfe deep and super schärfe relocations are in addition to many manual setting options flawlessly right. The recordings are very "cinematic" by this type of recording.
I'm sure that in comparison to other "cheap" digital camcorders, much better visual results can be reached. Disadvantage, however, 2 device with you around all the time. because you should get a cam belt growth.
may be a very inexpensive alternative to. and the A / D converter you can save in this instance. to replace the recording MiniDV cam.
Antwort von saemjamin:
many thanks for the many answers ...
a few names like: MS5; 300/400er Beta + BVW-60 +; DXC-537 + PVV-1 ... have fallen, are the devices that you would recommend me, or did you just sample the purposes referred to?
Moreover, again, I just wanted to add that I am a
professional digital camcorder for financial reasons can not afford.
I would be interested simply whether it is advisable, used professional analog equipment to buy and which products are proven in the past and to recommend?
(I think that you SVHS cam views and co searched on ebay), then please do not take on SVHS tape. concern you a MiniDV cam with analog in, or a hard disk recorder. that was synonymous another point of view, the question I forgot. [/ b]
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
Hi,
a professional camera like the Sony BVW-300AP Betacam SP is currently in a well-known Internet auction for ¬ 1500 for sale. There is, however, the already mentioned with accessories not included (not even editing software ...).
Total land because you probably at 2,500 euros. For this money you get synonymous already a new HDV camera, you with the professional image quality can get started.
Cheap
and professional time is not now.
BG
Andreas
Antwort von Simon2k7:
@ Andreas_Kiel
You must be the subject calmly read
-This statement is true for semi technology. Until now I had Panasonic MS4 SVHS
Canon XL1 Mini DV
canon XM2 Mini DV
With analog broadcast, I have not worked. --
That you've certainly read about. With the Aiptek I give you quite naturally. The I would not have counted on the cameras. With Dv I said, which is based on mini-DV recording. It was clear out of me
I look at the Panasonic MS4 and the SonyV6000 (and the times were super analogues) against a cheap mini DV tested. The do not sting. About Broadcast cameras, I have not talked.
@ Sam
Cheap semi I could not recommend to you.
I have now spent XM2 head with approximately 30 hours for 730 Euro rise of a friend because my XL1 after 10 years because of drive fault has abandoned the spirit. But this is always a lottery with Technology Used
mfG Eggerder
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
About Broadcast cameras, I have not talked.
Yes, true: the "B" word has crept in here at some point :-)
chmeißt the Purche to poden! Okay, then summarized:
- Analog broadcast technology today to get prices, which are synonymous with HD cameras gets new;
- Analog semiprof. Technology get cheaper, there will be a halfway reasonable MiniDV camcorder synonymous but not much more expensive at much better quality.
- And the Gebrauchtlotterei aufzumachen would ... hmm ... Lottery?
BG
Andreas
