Frage von leoHDV:
Hello!
I have a Canon hv 20 purchased and will now have a polarizer, UV filter, a Graufilter, a Farbverlaufsfilter and a wide and Angledranhängen Finally some sun!
Is that so many dranzuhängen filter?
Three Filters in a row, I s.Rand of my little sun glare Randabschattungen seen!
I want s.liebsten a slightly larger, more professional Sonenblende, but it is a synonymous Wide Angledranschrauben!
What would you say to that, what products do you offer? Geht das überhaupt?
Thank you for your answers!
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... Polarizer, UV filter, a Graufilter a Farbverlaufsfilter and a wide and Angledranhängen Finally some sun ... As an immediate measure, I would suggest simply not filter all at once to use! S.besten a look at what each filter effect and only the use, of the respective recording makes sense.
If you are still several times at the same time need to filter, there are really only two ways to avoid Randabschattungen: Use a matte, the greater - and usually rectangular - filter absorbs (when it's cheaper to look at the Cokin System) or you use traditional Schraubfilter. The latter course, but not in the size of the HV20 filter thread, but much larger: The closes then you have an adapter ring to s.die Camera. If you're really high-quality brand filters have purchased, it may even be that the picture in spite of several filters on top of each other not even so much worse ;-)
Oh, and the wide angle! This requires you s.besten directly s.die Camera and the filter in front of a matte box on it. Whether you want to drive this effort (and the filter thread of the HV20 cope with this burden), but I know not.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von leoHDV:
Hm ..
Ok, I look, what we can do!
But thank you for your quick reply!
So you can s.einem Wide Angleauch a filter dranschrauben?
Antwort von beiti:
I have a few suggestions as to what you have everything at dranhängen could ... ;)
No, joking aside. Not all combinations of filters resulting sense, and more than 2 at the same time I would tender the lens thread not expect.
UV filter worth all appropriate as a protective filter. As soon as any other filter on it, is the UV sometimes superfluous.
Wide-angle polarizer and intent is not synonymous favorable combi. The next picture angle, the more irregular is the effect of the polarizer on the sky blue, reflections, etc. from. I would polarizer only in conjunction with normal and slightly longer focal length to use, that is never in conjunction with WW-Converter.
Farbverlaufsfilter and Graufilter are something quite special and will be determined only in a few scenes needed. Whether you then must necessarily combine?
Hood is, in principle, never wrong, unless they can prove abschattet. More than 1 filter, I would not drunterschrauben. For the WW-converter, a special hood with a larger diameter are required.
Antwort von HighDefinition:
And what WW-Konferter with Sunshade tätet her for my HV 20 suggest?
Antwort von Markus:
For the WW-converter, a special hood with a larger diameter are required. A special tip for the HV20, I have not synonymous, but when combined with a filter WW-converters are used, then the filter (before converter) not too small. Generally speaking, the shorter the focal, the greater must be the filter.
What are the dimensions and filter hood just have to depend, not least by the factor and the design of the converter from. Since I like this but said no specific tip that the only way as a general guideline. It's best to buy such accessories in stores and tried everything s.eigenen directly from your camcorder, to make sure that no vignetting show.
Antwort von DezorianGuy:
I got my HV20 tions "Raynox 0.66x wide Anglegeholt.
Have good experience with it made.
But I wanted to pick synonymous ne sun visor, as a shadow created when the sun reinscheint side.
What are the sun visors would you recommend me, which is then synonymous to the WW would aufsetzbar.
Antwort von ruessel:
Look at times the "tulip" to:
Antwort von leoHDV:
It sounds ever (almost) good ... stupid that you do not have a filter can daranschrauben ... :-(
Somehow it must be possible s.einer HV 20, one WW, Sonnenbelnde and filter simultaneously to assemble ... or some do not?
Antwort von DezorianGuy:
Quite matter ... without my sun visor is the Wide Angleunnütz when filming outside. And UV filters just useless (if you can not put it), if you constantly (and it should be) with his WW has to do.
What I want to say:
Will man with a WW, or hood work, you must not buy more UV filter, because he no longer would fit, right?
Antwort von leoHDV:
Not quite!
I thought that man could s.der Lens of the HV20 a filter (there are already of Hama Pol-and UV-filter in one!) Dranschrauben, then a WW and the least, some sun!
But why should not filter in front of a WW dranschrauben? Where would be the WW will not synonymous of the General Assembly removed!
Antwort von Bernd E.:
I thought that man could s.der Lens of the HV20 ... dranschrauben a filter, then a WW and to the least, some sun! That can of course, only one should be remember that s.dieser body
1. a UV filter is unnecessary, as today's camcorder interfering UV rays have even filter out (and the main objective lens so as not to be met, even if the WW is out front) and
2. the polarizer, may be difficult to rotate, if it always the front-seated WW be associated movement. Particularly so is synonymous to sun and thus mitdreht sometimes leaves the tulips would protrude into the picture.
... why should not filter in front of a WW dranschrauben? No idea why you should not be allowed. I would filter even if possible before use WW.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von DezorianGuy:
In the above example is Page:
Q. Can a filter on the Camera in the use of a wide-angle converter aufgeschraubt Remember Me?
A. It is clear: NO. All Converter, whether tele-or wide-angle, should always be close s.das front glass of the lens to be screwed, they are synonymous calculated. A filter intervening unnecessarily prolonged the distance-Converter Lens and not only massive Randunschärfen are the result.
Antwort von ruessel:
But why should not filter in front of a WW dranschrauben? Where would be the WW will not synonymous of the General Assembly removed!
Because everything in optical systems to the hundredth of a millimeter matters. Each filter between the Camera and Optics Converter brings both several millimeters apart ...... Edge sharpness and possibly vignetting losses are the result.
What have you just always with your polarizer? New Fashion? Their power only dead, boring photos without any refreshing reflection in candy colors? ;-)
Antwort von DezorianGuy:
What actually runs a polarizer?
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
Better than
hierIm wesentlichen entweder zum Verringern of Spiegelungen oder, um die Farben etwas leuchtender zu bekommen. Himmel läßt sich dadurch of "blaß" auf "strahlend blau" verändern (in Grenzen natürlich).
examples with polarizer:
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BG
Andreas
PS: do not moan because of the colors, the tourists here would be better like this!
Antwort von DezorianGuy:
Ah, so, sorry, I had the "here" link is not seen.
Hm, I read here somewhere that it was better, with colors as sparingly as possible to deal (or are only "artificial" Effects of the Cam itself been ...). How could you postpro better work ...
Antwort von Container:
It may, at the WDH-43 Canon of no front filter draufgeschraubt be simply because a thread is missing. Is there a thread (such as a Raynox), it could be a filter diameter of course with demensprechendem mounted. Between camera and WW is not a filter, as has often said.
Antwort von Markus:
What actually runs a polarizer? In addition to Andreas' pictures here are a video in which the effect is very clear:
filter effects such as videos (polarizer, ND filter, etc.)
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
Hm, I read here somewhere that it was better, with colors as sparingly as possible to deal As always: depends. The examples are in a tourist video introduced. Since it can not "colorful" enough. I got here and another Still Image upload:
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BG
Andreas
Antwort von Markus:
... that it was better, with colors as sparingly as possible to deal ... It depends of various aspects can be lump sum s.and not answered in the affirmative or negative. Andreas already has an example where colors play an important role, but it is not always bright, multi-colored content, but synonymous for more or less monochromatic images, through a polarizer and differentiation s.Kontrast win.
Did you look at my times linked viewed video example? I think as it becomes clear what a polarizer can make.
Antwort von DezorianGuy:
So, to the ship picture:
So I like this mystical s.dem Picture. But the tourist wants to still give some colors.
For example, the videos:
I think not. Was synonymous in the other thread ... there were at least these "Cokin" Page, with the filter leaves (?) To put on it, like headlights.
How expensive is because such coloring sheets? (I especially like the green-red)
or the linear polarizer.
Ok, if not too expensive, I would buy such a polarizer want.
(for videos I found, as I said no, but the comparison images)
Antwort von Markus:
For example, the videos:
I think not. The above link takes you
directly to that post, where (for registered users) usder Annex
circular polarizer (Cokin). Zip is to be seen. The load you down in the zip file is a WMV video, in which the polarizer is rotated to change the picture clearer.
Antwort von leoHDV:
Sunday ..
actually I need only one filter, the Graufilter!
Where should I s.besten during my Wide (wd hd-43) dranstecken?
Antwort von inted:
Sunday ..
actually I need only one filter, the Graufilter!
Where should I s.besten during my Wide (wd hd-43) dranstecken? Before the wide Angleund just because.
Antwort von raymaker:
Filters ALWAYS come after converters.
If the WD-43 an external HD thread? If yes, then there is no discussion. He comes outside, if not then he will rangeschraubt before.
Antwort von inted:
Filters ALWAYS come after converters.
If the WD-43 an external HD thread? If yes, then there is no discussion. He comes outside, if not then he will rangeschraubt before. Just because I was too vague klarerwegs.
However, it would be superior to then Ww with front thread to obtain, because here in the thread (or another) are discouraged dazwischenzusetzen was a filter. So is clear to me but not because the other synonymous eg Raynox calls between his AngleRaynox Wide HD-6600 and the HV20/30 the RA5243mm Raynox Adapter ring set for Optimization. vAlso A company-specific exception? Because I have not read, that each millimeter counts ` '?
In terms UV filter then nochh the quote: "UV filter for protection is only there because of vignetting at Ww + reflections do not use." Sounds to us convincingly Beginners whether `s true one can confirm.
Antwort von leoHDV:
Now the great wd-h 43 of Canon, which currently is the best WW ne for Canon hv 20, no filter thread in front off ....
Can a slightly larger Graufilter "over" the front ww tuned and possibly connect with the tape several mm size difference Weck do?
I need the Graufilter Hv CNON for my 20 because I am with a shutter of 25 and an aperture of 1.8 would like to rotate - add the Kinompdus ;-) and 16:9!
I'm curious how the film is!
And because of low light scenes, unfortunately, the change will be too dark or too bright and I just will not want to use automatic settings, I must be in bright light Graufilter different strengths dranstecken!
It's turning a lot of effort in for each scene, but the work ists then worth it!
Antwort von raymaker:
I need the Graufilter Hv CNON for my 20 because I am with a shutter of 25 and an aperture of 1.8 would like to rotate - add the Kinompdus ;-) and 16:9! Forget the hinterhercheln after allegedly optimal settings. Film simply, the rest is irrelevant when you halfway s.Richtlinien holds. (zb Shutter 1 / 50 instead of 1 / 25 - you want but not seriously HDV Cinemode with 1 / 25 film?)
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... Now the great wd-43 of h Canon ... no front filter threads on it ... Hard to believe what is now so everything can be weggespart: Such castrated accessory manufacturers should be to beat the ears.
... Can you have a slightly larger Graufilter "over" the front turn ww stuck with tape and possibly the size of several mm Weck make difference ... Would be better as well, the Cokin filter system to use: There is a so-called universal ring, which is not in the filter thread is attached, but external to the text of the lens (or just your converter here) can be screwed.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von leoHDV:
And how the heist filter or where so I find on the Internet?
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... And how the heist Filters ... What do you mean? The Cokin Graufilter has the same names as synonymous with other manufacturers: Graufilter, Neutralgraufilter, ND filter, neutral density. The universal ring is not a filter, but serves to attach such a means and, well, just universal ring.
... where I find the Internet so ... For each Online-Stillimage-/Videohändler, the program has Cokin: Google helps you because s.schnellsten next. Probably it would be s.besten, you go first to www.cokin.fr and yourself to the filtering, since it is so synonymous in various sizes.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von leoHDV:
oh, sorry ...
I thought the filter holder with Aperture.
