Frage von bokii:
Hi,
after I 35mm of my plans had initially distanced itself (there is still a bit early), I would like to know of you, like a documentary / short film based package could look like.
As the camera comes only DVX 100 BE in question. I get the new for 2800 ¬.
Stay still approximately 1200 ¬.
Tripod with swivel head would be appropriate, as an ordinary stereo micro.
A badge for radio would be a one-man team, as I would be sure of synonymous advantage.
At a small Mattebox use of filters, I would have quite a lot of joy.
Thank you in advance,
Daniel
Antwort von Markus:
Hi Daniel,
the matte, you'll first need to emphasize, because for Tripod go away around 600 ¬ (eg Manfrotto 525/503-Kit) and renowned radio paths are often even higher, especially if they are for a better transfer of security a diversity receiver should do.
Antwort von Johannes:
I think you will save a lot if you buy the 501HDV head. Because there is not much different carfully. I have my kit 525/501HDV just paid ¬ 500. With ebay you get a cheap matte box already for ¬ 100 including shipping. the stereo mic is probably somewhat more expensive.
The radio that already for less than 300 ¬ If you were still around 300 ¬ for a Stereomic. and there should be what can be found.
That would be a cheap option now how much this stuff up on the tripod is good, I can not say.
Antwort von PowerMac:
The 501-head is scrap. A UHF Micro minimal costs 600 euros. Not 300th
Antwort von Hans-Otto:
The 501-head is scrap. A UHF Micro minimal costs 600 euros. Not 300th And the Manfrotto 503 head as well.
Antwort von radiohead3:
possibly a used Sachtler - head to a manfroto - stativ stuck;)
Antwort von r.p.television:
So the 501-head is really scrap. Smooth start is with the impossible.
There is currently a Chinese Sachtler-replica. Because you get a complete Tripod for just under 1000, - Euro. Have tested and it is equal to the original Sachtler. Look at the VCM market (www.vcm-markt.de) or Tripod shop in Munich. The distribute das Sachtler The original costs about 2000, - Euro or more.
Because of the Camera:
Why not XH A1?
If you already have (jokingly) 35mm throw into the room, I do not understand why you still PAL Resolutionfür want to expect this price.
The XH A1 currently costs 3049, - Euro and can do everything what the DVX100 can only get better.
An intelligent and Mattebox radio when you can stretch your budget just back provision, because a decent Chrosziel (forget the other) at least 1000, - and a radio route around 600, - costs.
Vocas not let you turn on Compendium. This is within the housing pivotable flaps of the 4:3 Housing s.eine Streulichtabschattung adjust for 16:9. The flaps unfortunately reflect in the Optics and provide the benefit of the matte box in question.
LG Mike
Antwort von mac-mac:
Why not XH A1? I see the same. In the work we have a DVX100B and I am now the little Canon HV20 prefer. In good light and external audio recording is the price performance ratio legendary. On a HD-Ready Television, the images of the HDV cams unbelievably good.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Hi bokii
As my predecessor, so once again have your questions answered in ""........ Here my question / suggestion.
Why a HDV cam? If one as Canon XL1-2 is no longer good enough for things Doku? What speaks against (I'm not the only one of the HD Ready TV / Cam owns?)
I use a Canon XL1S on a 804RC2 / 410 s.einem 055XPROB (Manfrotto), or an old multi-flash.
That was until Dato more than enough?
Should we in such a thread (based on a set price) is not synonymous such Equitment mention?
The use of me bought Sennheiser Mic synonymous s are all less than 500 euros and get good sound over.
Do not get me wrong but I'm the Meihnung that, especially with limited Found to be synonymous with such an equipment which can be transformed.
http://forum.slashcam.de/canon-xl1-s-with-zubehor-abzugeben-vp264998.html#264998
Nen this adapter and one to it to 400 L IS Lens and thus can be as good s Bustard on posts and start surfing etc :-) (but then recommend an additional "monopod" for the lens.)
Besides the kannste L IS synonymous for good photos to use.
My only is synonymous really nice shots there to be your Reitz can have no HD to be. Just a thought on my part.
Wünsch what
PS Not all the big camera looks great is synonymous with professional matters. Or, as another user here says ;-) Not like the camera, but the cameraman does the Picture "
Antwort von r.p.television:
Why a HDV cam? If one as Canon XL1-2 is no longer good enough for things Doku? What speaks against (I'm not the only one of the HD Ready TV / Cam owns?) I have him on a HDV camera like the XH A1 advised, because the price breakdown on his camcorder just said about 200, - Euro were.
IT was a great format. But I have already HDV filmed, as I have not had HD Television. One can prove far-sighted when times synonymous invests in quality, of which one does not immediately benefit. That must be some consumer victims sometimes downright einhämmern. Von wegen "because I have nothing of". In the future we will be happy, but one or the other event in better quality on video to have banned. I'm glad at any rate, some videos in HDV rotated to have, as I they are not yet at a Full HD or HD Ready could consider.
And the question whether HD makes sense answer is of course if you want in a media market is around the corner. Because it is so for devices - which can only SD - looking for.
For my part, I could not understand it when someone at a savings of 200, - Euro (I ask for forgiveness), respectively outdated camcorder, if it instead the best camera in 6000, - Euro gets.
PS: Nice and good if one XL1 (s) or XL2 is in use, because they are just a few years ago and still has purchased good services. However, the XL1 (s) can not even natively 16:9. If it has indeed just like them still rich. But yes we are talking of a
new purchase! Why so much money again invest in an operating system that is actually already (sorry again) second choice?
I sometimes want to feel some progress at any price and stop all equipment recommend that you do not own TopTen.
If the access would be sustained, we would still SW-television tubes with whistle and krächzendem monotone.
And yes, I know the cameraman makes the picture. But with the words of a craftsman with a better tool makes work more fun, and if the work is more fun, is synonymous to quality of the final product better.
Since I HDV private use, I put a lot more work and preparation into the shooting, because I know that I am not behind detaillosem of pixels Matsch will be disappointed.
I have recently even my old father, who is almost desperate s.seine old PAL cilium tube has bracketed (kicher. .. "the others are all not fit into the wall ..."), with private pictures of my last Toscana holiday (XL H1), an HD Ready missioniert and an HV20.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
@ rptelevision
Thanks for your answer .... and I give you what is absolutely right, the purchase of HD is concerned. But listened to bokii s starting thread for me after "I want to film and times would be synonymous berreit 4k to invest. Now, as he and several expressed wishes, I participated in, he just starts with the media ... and that now wants to spend his saved.
So my question / comment. Should this be the case nähmlich comes synonymous still a lot of other things added (PC; software; Hardwear (regarding NLE editing cards Light recorder Wacom)) to do so. And since one with 4000 euro since been one or the other can buy, if the camera does not directly cost 2800 Euro, it should be a point of my statement sein.So had been holding a lot of stuff for his "new" hobby.
@ bokii
Sorry but I just had the feeling so. Of course, HD future. And if only s.Cam Tripod and should take ..... the Canon! ;-)
Wünsch what
Antwort von Tobias1708:
Thanks for your detailed answers.
I cut the computer.
iMac 20 "2 GHz, Dual Core with 4 Gig RAM
FC Studio 2 Software
DV recorder to switch on and off when needed, I can borrow for free.
Mikrofonmäßig I will be probably a Sennheiser ME64 buy. It costs 170 ¬.
I've decided on the Panasonic (incl. Cokin Matte Box Kit 72 - to get 2900), because I use the A1 (the only alternative) had in his hand and it is simply not true angefühlt has. I'm just not so good to come legally.
And a tool which is very nice in your hand and which I trust is very important to me.
Stay still about 1000 euros for a tripod with clever head. 'm Just on the second hand market in search of a Sachtler ENG 75 / 2 D with FSB 6 / IR 6 head. Let's see if I will find.
Greetings and Thanks
Antwort von bokii:
Not logged in, I was it
Antwort von Ex Pana Mitarbeiter:
What have you against the 503 he? Not smooth swing? I can absolutely not sign.
The Neiger is awesome and worth his money.
And even as an ex employee Pana I can not understand how the A1 of Pana prefer NOT:) I have all my movies and Panas sold only with Canon.
Antwort von r.p.television:
What have you against the 503 he? Not smooth swing? I can absolutely not sign.
My statement of purpose is not smooth swivel focused exclusively on the 501 The 503 I did not try.
Sorry, above I Sch .... e built.
Antwort von Egomane:
blablabla ... One can prove far-sighted when times synonymous invests in quality, of which one does not immediately benefit. That must be some consumer victims sometimes downright einhämmern. Von wegen "because I have nothing of". In the future we will be happy, but one or the other event in better quality on video to have banned. I'm glad at any rate, some videos in HDV rotated to have, as I they are not yet at a Full HD or HD Ready could consider.
And the question whether HD makes sense answer is of course if you want in a media market is around the corner. Because it is so for devices - which can only SD - looking for ... blablabla 're A very clever ... HD is the future, but certainly not HDV ... LOL
A shift to HD, in the earliest Con-/Prosumerbereich now with the SonyEX sense. HDV was / is just a bad joke of the industry, to you and many others have fallen inside. But there are HD-ready devices (in 1 year out of date) as if bought all of Germany only lemmings from there ... But everyone gets exactly the equipment that he deserves ...
Antwort von smooth-appeal:
The companies rip off the buyer is just so. Since customers can not help it synonymous to go into a shop and a television buy. The halt does not spend hours in the subject with HD / ETC.PP look at how some of us just do.
The HDV is not true that no one will deny. That the SonyEX with its format is not the synonymous is true, denies hopefully synonymous None. Otherwise, it is ridiculous ...
Fact is: I already have some super great pictures seen (MiniDV, DVCAM, HDV) and I would do a vicious than the format grottig measure. Depending on the purpose, most definitely format a raison d'être.
Antwort von Tobias1708:
krass that topic HDV / DV nickligkeiten always leads to ...
Antwort von r.p.television:
're A very clever ... HD is the future, but certainly not HDV ... LOL
A shift to HD, in the earliest Con-/Prosumerbereich now with the SonyEX sense. HDV was / is just a bad joke of the industry, to you and many others have fallen inside. But there are HD-ready devices (in 1 year out of date) as if bought all of Germany only lemmings from there ... But everyone gets exactly the equipment that he deserves ... I and others are with HDV on the industry fooled?
You seem so apparently you for Gralshüter video art.
If you're already out the window as far as lean, then quote me correctly!
Firstly, I have no record in the HDV format as the dubs of the future. I would rather say it is next to DVC PRO HD (HVX200), the consumer / prosumer format of the present!
Content of my statement was simply that I would advise anyone, because of 200, - Euro saving a DV camera to buy if he has a format of an HDV XH A1 can have. Maybe there are ghosts, but despite all the cries and compromises Unken HDV is the better format.
Surely it's not a professional format, but if the signal is an XL H1 times downconvertiert one has to PAL Digibeta quality. It is computationally demonstrated. And then the computer looks really old in comparison.
And I have never bought an HD Ready but deliberately waited until a good Full HD came out. Only so much to your insinuation!
And I wanted to DV synonymous not bad talk. I turn the last seven years on commercial DV CAM (HDV is a few exceptions, only my private system) and the format has served me well. But with a new purchase, I would certainly no money for this SD Camera to buy more.
With the remark that the EX1 is the camera in the future, proves you do not just competence. Perhaps their successors ...
I was once synonymous always been a Sony user, but what Sonyda for a lazy laid egg, I initially did not believe it.
Congratulations for Sony's new beta testers!
First, the sauteuren SxS cards (which seem to many laptops are not recognized and also slow), the long back-and Herschaltzeit between RECORD and PLAY MODE (15 or even 30 seconds, there is every Tapelaufwerk faster), the jerky Zoomservo the CA-jumps (depending on the solid and varierender Focal poppen an AND from CA), the top-heavy balance, the bugs with WB and manual gain, the vignetting on the top left (on some devices interspersed)
AND this ugly vorallem Rolling Shutter Effect, the camera in all situations with rapidly changing light or fast movements disqulifiziert.
Generally, all-CMOS cameras are not really the yellow from the egg to be. If this is the future, I know that my HDV Canon still keep a little longer. The CCDs have, not the image content partial scan.
At least, not all of the EX1 the Vorschußloorbeeren herein. In the case of two dealers in Munich, the largest number of extradition in Bavaria are responsible, have two thirds of all customer canceled. And the job lists to stagnate.
Before you also with your knowledge of the prospectus of the SONY-HP as a CameraLink the new future anpreist, look better and not credible everything you read! Who other than Lemming dubs should be careful that he himself is None, the prospectus says a study the wisdom with spoons to have eaten.
Antwort von smooth-appeal:
Schöner would not even formulate PowerMac can ;-)
Antwort von B.DeKid:
're A very clever ... HD is the future, but certainly not HDV ... LOL ...
You seem so apparently you for Gralshüter video art. .... Loool rp telecharger not let you angry ..... maybe yes paints egomaniacs synonymous flip .... what format the !?!-)
You know my Canon 1014 XL-s still super shots ... lol .... but the footage is to get a little tricky .......:-)
and @ bokii ... thanks for the info, now I know what you like synonymous mind. Stay but while an HD camera .... I do not consider absolutely necessary in order to produce good movies.
Antwort von r.p.television:
I am not worse.
I find it unhelpful when HDV (or synonymous my DV) is made worse than it is.
That made me that before I started my HDV cameras for private purposes had increased synonymous erstmal totally insecure.
The fact is that HDV is much better than its reputation, only partly arose because what semi aufgeschnappt oversubscribed and have to pass. Also, it is the Ignorranz not to say arrogance of several traders who noted with suspicion that her 40,000 euros SD crate at first glance makes worse pictures like a 3000 Euro HDV. (now Farbsampling etc. disregarded).
IR was s.Anfang just laughed. Years later, then behind the scenes so that force is produced. Contrary to all abusive calls from television stations & Co, this happens already synonymous with HDV.
Antwort von smooth-appeal:
Definitely, NTV has allegedly XHA1 few, ANY OTHER PARTY produces Channel produces some with Sony HDV mills and so some of what VJ is delivered, it was still with "unprofessional" recording technique. From the movies with good DV cameras have been inflated and was not to speak. 35mm course gives a much better impression, of course, lend themselves better uncompressed HD recordings to Keyen etc. - but in the end it is definitely not on the format see above the result is good or bad, but on the team that created it and how it is conceived was.
There are several professional production areas where HDV and DV perfectly adequate. For some good shots there are less. The cases in which one HDV never use but should be manageable. So I understand the Miesmacherei not.
There are even HDV cameras that output uncompressed material may - who are still in the capturing solution invested, has a highly effective system, which most of the problems of the HDV cameras removed.
This is not a nice talk, but a fact! Nonetheless makes Editcam RED or better pictures, not least because there is so Lenses are used for the purchase price for other people to establish a swimming pool or a new car finance would ;-)
