Frage von MadEyedMoose:
Hello,
I am very new here, but I've been around and found my question in topics, but nothing was exactly suited to me and weiterhalf.
It is a question that I have a camcorder with which you need good interviews can take (with several people). Priced my pain threshold is ¬ 300, unfortunately, more is absolutely not in it, unfortunately at the moment. I read that Panasonic Sonyand because the manufacturer are included in the price range "recommended" are.
The interviews should, of course, later, good picture and sound quality have, but I believe that as Samsung in the lower price ranges are the only ones that have a microphone jack, or?
Or is the Sony's so good that a reasonable quality of sound synonymous with a built Microphone can achieve?
Models that I have viewed, for example,
Panasonic NV-GS 75
SonyDCR-HC27/23/37
Canon MD 110
Samsung VP-D371
Is it because, with the internal microphone for interviews to be used?
I look and see has been around for a while and come to no easy conclusions.
Would be grateful for any assistance.
Antwort von Matt58:
what do you mean reasonable?
For interviews internal microphones are unsuitable. Did it often painfully noticed (with its Panasonic), but all cameras in the price class, and even more expensive, have poor internal microphone. An external micro, handheld, lavs or Angel, is a must for interviews.
Antwort von MadEyedMoose:
what do you mean reasonable?
For interviews internal microphones are unsuitable. Did it often painfully noticed (with its Panasonic), but all cameras in the price class, and even more expensive, have poor internal microphone. An external micro, handheld, lavs or Angel, is a must for interviews. Well, so it would give me enough if we stop well understands what is being said, I am sorry there is not enough. What is there because s.Mikrofonen opportunities? If you have several people, the talk turns what external Microphone (the synonymous nor cheap should be - so to ¬ 50) you could use? And do you then s.der Cam s.oder put it in the middle? Sorry, I realize it sounds grad himself quite stupid as I ask, but I know something does not stop and perhaps can give me here so someone give tips ...
And what possible Cams in my price range have microphone connections?
Antwort von Matt58:
I have interviews usually handheld, that a person (inquiring) holds, and the respondents in answering hinhält. a normal dynamic handheld micro enough, it should be nurnicht from plastic.
Antwort von MadEyedMoose:
I have interviews usually handheld, that a person (inquiring) holds, and the respondents in answering hinhält. a normal dynamic handheld micro enough, it should be nurnicht from plastic. The problem is, my questions are practically in the round and asked everyone responds to the grad mag ... = (
Antwort von usul:
Well, synonymous if you do not like to hear you: In the practical case, everyone in the round have a micro. Otherwise you will be "good" quality is not right.
Anteckmikros would be good for this. But then you need a mixer ... For 50 euros will stop nothing.
Otherwise, prefer to remain at the micro-camera. Synonymous, although not so great, but when you win the constellation with a single good Micro nothing.
Antwort von Login_vergessen:
Hello,
camera to your question, I can not answer you, unfortunately, as I am with consumer cameras times not at all familiar.
For the microphone, I can question follgende tips:
There are microphones with different directional characteristics.
- Ball: The sound is evenly to all sides of quasi spherical.
- Kidney: The sound is "kidney" recorded, is a little difficult to describe ...
- Mace: The sound is great with directivity to "forward" Incorporated
For example, if people s.einem table, and the conversation of only a micro can be recorded, I would with an omnidirectional take. In interview situations, either kidney or lobe, which is when using a microphone with noise lobe pattern very well can hide ... Of course, the Micro will always synonymous evenly in the direction of the speaker are kept.
What MicroStation you should use depends not insignificant of the situation in which it is used.
There are also so-called "dynamic" microphones and "condenser microphones". The latter require a power source for operation. In Proficams this is a voltage of 48V to s.Mikroeingang, but there is synonymous with microphone Battery operation.
The condenser microphones are generally more expensive, but better.
So, maybe you can help `s so synonymous if I give you in terms of" Camera "could not help.
Greeting
Stefan
Antwort von MadEyedMoose:
Well, synonymous if you do not like to hear you: In the practical case, everyone in the round have a micro. Otherwise you will be "good" quality is not right.
Anteckmikros would be good for this. But then you need a mixer ... For 50 euros will stop nothing.
Otherwise, prefer to remain at the micro-camera. Synonymous, although not so great, but when you win the constellation with a single good Micro nothing. Something like in the way I had feared ...
So although internal Micro?
So I put my uuuuuuuuuuuungefähr such as here:
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=2011501168
Okay, neither image nor sound are perfect, but I think that would be sufficient for what I want ...
Antwort von MadEyedMoose:
Hello,
camera to your question, I can not answer you, unfortunately, as I am with consumer cameras times not at all familiar.
For the microphone, I can question follgende tips:
There are microphones with different directional characteristics.
- Ball: The sound is evenly to all sides of quasi spherical.
- Kidney: The sound is "kidney" recorded, is a little difficult to describe ...
- Mace: The sound is great with directivity to "forward" Incorporated
For example, if people s.einem table, and the conversation of only a micro can be recorded, I would with an omnidirectional take. In interview situations, either kidney or lobe, which is when using a microphone with noise lobe pattern very well can hide ... Of course, the Micro will always synonymous evenly in the direction of the speaker are kept.
What MicroStation you should use depends not insignificant of the situation in which it is used.
There are also so-called "dynamic" microphones and "condenser microphones". The latter require a power source for operation. In Proficams this is a voltage of 48V to s.Mikroeingang, but there is synonymous with microphone Battery operation.
The condenser microphones are generally more expensive, but better.
So, maybe you can help `s so synonymous if I give you in terms of" Camera "could not help.
Greeting
Stefan Hello!
Many thanks for the info! = D
And how is the; fit all microphone cables and any camcorder? Are any combination or universal Connections s.den cameras / microphones Universal?
Antwort von Matt58:
consumer cameras have (wennn at home micro-present) a 3.5 mm jack input, stereo, unbalanced. (semi &) professional cameras, as synonymous good microphones, XLR connectors, which are old are symmetrical. This can create a 48V phantom power, which for condenser microphones is required. When a microphone with XLR s.einer comsumerkamera verwendetwerden is, there are several possibilities:
1) Very cheap: wireless adapters, cons: no symmetric transmission, no phantom voltage possible
2) via XLR converterbox these have XLR inputs and mini-jack outputs, and those that convert symmetrical signal from the microphone into an asymmetrical order (symmetry is preserved), and offer phantom voltage, depending on the model and execution. Disadvantage: more expensive than 1)
Antwort von MadEyedMoose:
consumer cameras have (wennn at home micro-present) a 3.5 mm jack input, stereo, unbalanced. (semi &) professional cameras, as synonymous good microphones, XLR connectors, which are old are symmetrical. This can create a 48V phantom power, which for condenser microphones is required. When a microphone with XLR s.einer comsumerkamera verwendetwerden is, there are several possibilities:
1) Very cheap: wireless adapters, cons: no symmetric transmission, no phantom voltage possible
2) via XLR converterbox these have XLR inputs and mini-jack outputs, and those that convert symmetrical signal from the microphone into an asymmetrical order (symmetry is preserved), and offer phantom voltage, depending on the model and execution. Disadvantage: more expensive than 1) Thanks for the help because I am now in at least one piece of advice next. =)
Antwort von MadEyedMoose:
Where can I find so a box, or what I'll give as a search term?
Antwort von Bernd E.:
Where can I find so a box, or what I'll give as a search term? For example here: www.beachtek.com
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Login_vergessen:
In considering the fact that, for the Camera and 300 ¬ for a Micro 50 ¬ are scheduled, a Beachtek adapter probably something fall out of the frame ...
I would follgenden with reflections s.die things:
- The camera must have a microphone input available.
- A Micro from the cheap Elektroblödmarkt will certainly synonymous cheap sound. So maybe times in the music stores (eg www.thomann.de or www.musicstore-koeln.de) to low, but look for higher quality microphones. Here you'll find the most synonymous descriptions in relation to the particular directional characteristics.
- Reasonable sound you get first time with a reasonable Micro whether symmetrically, unbalanced, XLR or phone jack. Ie the sound with a Beachtek adapter and Cheap Micro is synonymous according Cheap Micro sound. Since I would prefer more to invest in microfinance and this as well as possible to the expected end use needs.
Antwort von thos-berlin:
Perhaps this might sound like
Antwort von Jan:
For a beginner is the 9600er very dangerous. Once the micro-directional in the direction of the speaker is held, is the sound even worse than a stereo micro. Since you for only 300 ¬ synonymous difficult a current Camera with headphone output (Panasonic GS 230) get the sound can be very difficult to verify.
I was synonymous with more expensive micro-directional (500 ¬) (in the middle made out by Tripod) times 3 people trying s.Tisch well incorporated, which was also completely, although they represent only about 50 cm auseinandersaßen. The middle was super sound, the two outsiders have barely heard.
How many people sit s.Tisch, there is not a moderator in the middle?
Otherwise, consider a camcorder with good built-Microphone (Sony & Panasonic) and buy the camera too far back to place. Perhaps with Panasonic Zoommikroeinstellung (Sound of "round sound" stereo placed more forward to next remote to hear better.
This is again a situation with zero money to do what sensible. Dynamic Micro is synonymous feasible s.besten du suspense with a friend to Tripod (as Tonangel) of the fast-speaking people oriented, you have to stop before test s.Besten with a camcorder with headphone output (eg GS 180 & 230).
VG
Jan
Antwort von MadEyedMoose:
Many thanks for all Your answers!
I must now buy while Cam microphone connector but not for Headphones has (Canon MV 901) and I hope that somehow it still works, I will debug it and I'm here in the thread re-sign with experience. Has perhaps anyone here ever has an external Micro s.diese Canon connected and could recommend a micro? I think it would even go that persons (2-6) not next as 2 meters of the cam must be removed.
Antwort von MadEyedMoose:
@ Jan: Hmm, yes, in other words with the middle set and Micro rumreichen would almost certainly synonymous go. Then there was already a song synonymous micro? Unfortunately I have not even been with how many people I think it just for the interviews will have to do. Between 2 and 6 mostly.
Furthermore, I assume that it is always less than three feet distance will be, I do not want to take too much away.
Antwort von Jan:
I often hold the same problem, a Sennelager Heiser radio link is too expensive for me, like it is you go.
If there is a moderator that is quite centrally located and not more than 3 persons who are sitting next to him, goes into the direction of the microphone for normal demands.
For the bands I interview, it is not a problem synonymous Micro simply to give to the next.
Normally takes one leg and kidney (as described of login) polar pattern mono, with stereo (ball) do you listen to more than Umgebungsgetön the clear voice of the speaking.
If, however, all of which will be heard, is a stereo ball again, but sound is definitely worse than with kidney 30 cm away from the speech ends. If the round is too big but it will be synonymous with a stereo micro hard to catch everything, then please make a small test movie, and look at the Television program & whether you can order life.
The Cheap but best solution is probably a s.Tripod Micro ascertained and as Tonangel to abuse, you have only one place above the heads of the micro grade fairly and permanently hold him. There you have, but again the picture sure amateurs go eh always far too high in the picture might not be bad times, shortly after the head orientation.
VG
Jan
Antwort von RainerE:
I often hold the same problem, a Sennelager Heiser radio link is too expensive for me, like it is you go.
If there is a moderator that is quite centrally located and not more than 3 persons who are sitting next to him, goes into the direction of the microphone for normal demands.
For the bands I interview, it is not a problem synonymous Micro simply to give to the next.
Normally takes one leg and kidney (as described of login) polar pattern mono, with stereo (ball) do you listen to more than Umgebungsgetön the clear voice of the speaking.
If, however, all of which will be heard, is a stereo ball again, but sound is definitely worse than with kidney 30 cm away from the speech ends. If the round is too big but it will be synonymous with a stereo micro hard to catch everything, then please make a small test movie, and look at the Television program & whether you can order life.
The Cheap but best solution is probably a s.Tripod Micro ascertained and as Tonangel to abuse, you have only one place above the heads of the micro grade fairly and permanently hold him. There you have, but again the picture sure amateurs go eh always far too high in the picture might not be bad times, shortly after the head orientation.
VG
Jan What are you using MicroStation then?
So now I have the Canon MV 901 and I think it should go, that one has a micro and it is wider among themselves, which would be recommended? As I said, it must do everything not be perfect, just like
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Antwort von Jan:
Often now SonyECM NV 1 - included in the PD 170, for such a not so bad. For you but no thanks XLR Connections theme synonymous has no battery power. Sometime then what better NTG 2 or ME 66th Meanwhile s.and to MKE 300 & VMS 2 at SonyHDR FX 7th
"Thos-berlin" Thomann T Bone 9600 would be a Preistip, because you usually only for 60 ¬ scrap gets Mikros. XLR jack on the adapter you have but you still care, because of there house has XLR connector. Was less enthusiastic about video of him, the main point of criticism was a big buzz in neon tubes, maybe. I have no practical experience with the part.
There will probably always called the same:
Rode-Videomic
-Sennheiser MKE 300
Panasonic VW or 2 on VMS directivity was old, synonymous not sound so bad, except for small hum, depending on the situation for the price.
With your group can 5er but the tape member (blond strands), the Micro hold, I think he would have made it synonymous. Or you puts you straight into the middle group (fear?) And swirl to speaking out, not forgetting the questions at the Micro in your direction to keep you happy times forgets as interview partners. Tripod is however absolutely necessary!
Get ready for cool music, I come from punk and metal storage
- Formerly synonymous times had green hair ....
Can you spend 100 ¬?
VG
Jan
Antwort von MadEyedMoose:
-.- No actually I do not even grad ¬ 100
Joa, I think that he is synonymous would make with the Micro. So as I said we should do is perfectly understand what is being said. But nice that gives you the Music, are synonymous, the good guys. =)
Crap. = (
I will probably s.Ende but again just have to take dictation.
What would it be with one
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Antwort von Buk:
What would it be with one such micro from? = ( So I say times: Under 300 ¬ is because garnicht. Savings still prefer a few months and buy what you ordinary.
Antwort von Jan:
Yes some are even Slashcam with Hamas RMZ models on the road.
Take no RMZ 12 - really schrottig. From RMZ 14 (you like) can be heard, depending on the person better reviewers.
In an emergency take a dynamic microphone, you do not need Battery and your camcorder, it takes, it's synonymous for 20-40 ¬ (zb SonyF V series 120.220 or 320 u. A.), mono parts are ok so later, a Computerbegabter "dir The mono sound on both tracks, but actually not so difficult. Dynamic even have an advantage - they can very well handle s.Griff, the above-mentioned microphone (MKE 300) are actually on the camera for thought, what a Hold makes harder.
Good as well dictaphones are now, I can not say, but the sound lippensyncron then to draw up a picture might not be easy for everyone ....
VG
Jan
Antwort von Jan:
Now I get a bee, have SonyF V 220 with MV 900 (Identical MV 901) tested was quite good for a 20 ¬ Micro.
VG
Jan
Antwort von MadEyedMoose:
Now I get a bee, have SonyF V 220 with MV 900 (Identical MV 901) tested was quite good for a 20 ¬ Micro.
VG
Jan Ooooh. That sounds wonderful. =) Many thanks for the great help and the expert support. = D
The interview will be in June (for the camcorder s.Samstag are not allowed, ganz toll -.-) - then I let you know how it went.
Antwort von Jan:
Yes it is already working fine, a very nice balanced sound you get with the dynamic vocal microphones "the price is not that class, but all better than the built-Micro to use.
Only because quite a lot of the Canon MiniDV own sounds familiar to you then with only 20 ¬ for a Microphone exclusively, synonymous cable is long enough and done quite well established, so it is not as fast of a cable may be broken.
VG
Jan
