Frage von DezorianGuy:
MIR 2've ordered.
-Uflycam from India (80 euros),
Manfroto Modosteady-585 (130 euros)
Also, I wonder what I am still testing could / should be:
Some "professionals" from my network
- "ABC Handyman 100"
Glidecam 2000 Pro, (200 euro)
Merlin-Rovotech (about 900 euros - too expensive)
Steadycam Steady-stick (approx. 350 Euro)
http://www.vcm-markt.de//geraete_details.php?geraete_id=2629
I'm totally Beginners, and hope that you give me from your many years of experience, synonymous with a variety of users here in the forum, the right decision can convey. I am aware that any Steadycam a certain induction time, ... me is about the final results. I would like the rotary s.Ende tags me on the shoulder and knocking proud of his fluid intake. :)
My budget: up to 300 Euros (would be synonymous for better quality buy a second-hand).
Antwort von raymaker:
Tell the Handyman, ansonten course, the Merlin. Both are very good. Steady Stick I do not know, Glidecam 2000 Pro is ... naja - not just bright.
The Handyman afair there are very difficult to buy, but I think eBay is a grad drin
Antwort von Axel:
Hi Dezo.
For small cameras is the arc angle or ergonomic shape, they can better contribute. The balance could, however, somewhat longer than with a "stick". The ABC Handyman 100 is just for 240 ¬ on ebay. For your HV20 is probably the right thing.
Antwort von DezorianGuy:
I'm excited ... and please be honest with you (not that I doubt would ever s.euch;) ....
Is this really Steadycam say and write 240 euro worth?
(to me still incomprehensible ... like balancing a piece of metal rod more than 100 euros can cost - Comparison Italy / India zb)
Ok, it's quality ... but it is almost half as expensive as my whole Cam ^ ^
Should I buy them myself, because otherwise it's no longer there alternatives? : P
Do I get the Handyman with the best (price terms) Steadycam (price / performance)?
Will you help me get it directly.
There are apparently several models of mobile Mans.
G-force Handyman, Handyman Clip and Go Handyman and 100 (on ebay).
Everything equally well?
Antwort von weitwinkel:
time you read this thread on the topic by ...
http://www.videotreffpunkt.com/thread.php?threadid=4680&threadview=0&hilight=modosteady&hilightuser=0&page=2
thereafter, the Hague MMC in the weight / price class very well be ...
(which include videos of ICKE84 are not bad)
gruß cj
Antwort von DezorianGuy:
Hm, thanks for the tip. However, this merely 800 grams Steadycam bear. My HV20 with filters, wide angle, matte, etc because I think weighs something over it ^ ^ Or?
Antwort von Axel:
You can quietly synonymous take a cheaper design. The Indians are in basic equipment (and a
small Steadicam is simple equipment) and sound pretty good. Even a self comes into question, it's perhaps less elegant, but the work will help, to understand the principle behind the camera and to balance a tray with glasses full rand (fine motor skill that must be synonymous with the most expensive metal rods only be purchased).
Antwort von DezorianGuy:
So, it is not the first Handyman Steadycam acquire, as I noticed;)
But is probably not as good as that one could safely strike / should ...
Antwort von weitwinkel:
Hm, thanks for the tip. However, this merely 800 grams Steadycam bear. My HV20 with filters, wide angle, matte, etc because I think weighs something over it ^ ^ Or? in which case you can use the same back Modosteady send
because it can carry only 700g ...
and
ww-when the converter is not so difficult could it possibly without Mattebox
with the Hague MMC rich.
gruß cj
Antwort von raymaker:
Why do you order multiple Steadycam? And even as the absolute Grütze "Manfrotto" shit?
And why do not you think beforehand about the weight? Is it easy to clear that with all HV20 tuned drum and weighs 1kg.
Antwort von DezorianGuy:
Why do I have multiple (2 s.der number) ordered?
Well, because I got it cheap and they need to for the same price here can resell. Are people who do not always necessarily a 1kg Camera call their own and there is hardly any offers in respect Steadycam ebay ... unfortunately.
As always synonymous ... my question again: Are not 240 euro too much for such a Steadycam like ABC Handyman?
Antwort von Axel:
As always synonymous ... my question again: Are not 240 euro too much for such a Steadycam like ABC Handyman? I guess the new price is doubled, he would have mentioned to you of the resale value. He is quite well known and well-known works. This may be an argument. Who's memory is still full with "cheap" equipment scrap the synonymous with ebay no longer performs, learns that it in fact may be cheaper, better and less good things to buy.
When hovering tripods are synonymous scrap. If you know the principle, one sees at first glance at the pictures with the smiling secretary, that some of the things do not work. However, when they are built properly, they need not be expensive.
Without experience so you will probably Handyman schrottig happen. Until the thing you've correctly balanced, this is a wackelndes Stehaufmännchen. Months later and after acquaintance with other systems this price range - or below - is the re-encounter friendly. You know what this is all about, balancierst thoroughly (takes a few minutes), and then makes it fun.
The Indians have also understood the principle that one can recognize s.den images, and they build solid. For almost solid, could be a bit difficult. Here you have but to take several weeks waiting time and make synonymous the customs fees in mind. From the declaration "poison" can be every inch if not foolproof.
EDIT: Did I just the promotional video for Steady Stick viewed. Caution! The system is
not suspended! This is a Tilt-stability. Not a bad part, anyway. What the video does not show is how someone so goes like a shot. A monopod would most of these recordings as well allow (Explanation: The anchor point, the tilt-axis forms the right hand, and it is variable, ie I can Tripod grasp higher or lower. With the left hand, I prefer s.Fuß or press the camera to the front). Ever Monopod be underestimated.
Antwort von raymaker:
At the Modosteady: Establishing a negative experience with the Modosteady. I know hardly any of the order was satisfied. Although Manfrotto drauf, which here means nothing.
The Handyman will cost to re-double, and to the right. He is also quite good, the Uflig parts from India are the Handyman lookalike (plagiarism), but not s.ihn ran.
You can also buy it yes, and re-sell. The s.Wert not lose, which I had observed last ever went away of 220-260 ¬, of which therefore can be tested.
Furthermore, the HV20 with each erdenkbaren accessories without any more problems for you pappt Not just a weight off longer. In the light models like Modosteady or the Hague is not zb.
Antwort von DezorianGuy:
Thank you for the decision aid. Be the Modosteady than foldaway opportunity steady utensil used for fast travel.
The Handyman I just ordered. I think so runs / floats you well. Will the whole holiday so practice.
The device then at least I know that only I myself would take the blame, then there would be miserable results ^ ^
Addendum:
Have just received the cam Modosteady.
Steadycam bends, through the wide filter + shifted forward (and perhaps even too high) weight to the front.
Useless, as far as I can judge after a good half hour of the rumprobierens-reading and Instructions.
Send them back.
Antwort von raymaker:
Modosteady is synonymous not soo bad. But he can not endure much. Congratulations to the Handyman, really a great part.
Antwort von DezorianGuy:
Thank you. :)
Will notify me as soon as I feel it in my hands.
Approx. 3 days yet, then I should receive it.
Antwort von Axel:
Have just received the cam Modosteady.
Steadycam bends, through the wide filter + shifted forward (and perhaps even too high) weight to the front.
Useless, as far as I can judge after a good half hour of the rumprobierens-reading and Instructions.
Send them back. Okay. I wish you absolutely avoid frustration. Because if you've unpacked the Handyman, is exactly what will happen: The Camera, by the stem top is forward tilt. This is the result of three factors, the balance are important:
1. The position of the camera on the levitation system.
When the camera focuses too far forward, it must at the plate with tripod screw to the rear may be used. It must also be moved laterally (probably minimal), if for example an external Micro is on the right. Handyman When there is this control. Check the times at Modo.
2. The position of the / of counterweight / s / e. That must be one with little patience to find out. If the counter can
not be adjusted (for the Handyman very slightly), the manufacturer probably assume that the small cam auto focus has the tripod thread, so the drag does not need to be adjusted.
Important: With these two factors must be your Cam balance in any case, ie, they must be in sleep bolt upright stand. I would s.deiner body with the Modo try again.
3. The Height of the right weight. If the weight
is absolutely too small, the camera tilts in any case immediately in the direction that the gravity purports, in your case forward. The minimum weight, the camera, if you let go, back into the back straight, with few - tend to a few - quite delve pendulum movements makes before it is balanced. The more weight you can now add, the shorter the vibrations. The ideal counterbalance is achieved when you have the Camera anstößt and immediately into the starting position back, without again in the opposite direction to swing.
If your ideal weight is exceeded, the opposite happened: The camera is now only a very short pendulum motion, but very long duration until the momentum is used up. It is a mistake that the counterweight does not high enough can be. Sure, that when two kilograms counterweight does not move much, but first, go to the expense of your joints and second, comes in fast movements the force comes into play. If the thing once it wobbles, it's all too late.
A propos Fliehkraft: When enough of the fast movements of the left hand index finger (if you have the part with the right do) to prevent any movement would be impossible.
Actually it should be synonymous with the size due to improper system be possible to "trim", by for example the bottom with a temporary tie a couple of thick washers or hexagon dranhängt. If you think with the Modo succeed, the more you will have joy s.Handyman.
Antwort von DezorianGuy:
Yo, get the Handyman. Try it out later.
See just one cable the dranhängt. Can probably NEN dranklemmen or monitor?
Where are affordable OLED screens? Or how does it work? :)
Antwort von Axel:
You need not, thou hast the display.
Antwort von saschabur:
I got the http://www.b-hague.co.uk/hague_mini_motion_cam_steadicam_type_camcorder_stabilizer.htm
bought for my 20th AGM - Which is synonymous with WWVorsatz already see above, but at the end of the possible weight class
I'm impressed already with little exercise can be very bad film released, be it in the car, skiing, etc., and for around 100 euros.
However, wind / wind is a problem because it can rotate the camera.
Antwort von Videofactory:
I'm synonymous in search of a Steadycam for HDR SR12.
Hatta as s.folgende thought:
Glidecam 2000 Pro
Steady Drive Double Action
ABC Handyman 100
ABC Handyman Clip & Go
Did I forget an important (the Merlin is too expensive).
The Handyman's are not in the vertical axis are decoupled, it is at a Glidecam or the steady part of a different Drive (for the Glidecam claimed the Manufacturer Finally, she argues that all axes are decoupled).
Next up, I have read that the Glidecam not so good for (which will probably synonymous to the steady drive, because this is very similar).
Can anyone of you help in the choice (I'm looking for experience and not rumors, which someone has heard of someone who previously heard of someone else, etc.)
Gruß, Alex.
Antwort von Videofactory:
None has a tip for me?
(* high * scale)
