Frage von philema:
Hello community,
I am currently on ebay looking for a new camcorder, I came across this offer:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5793473258&rd=1&sspagename=STRK% 3AMEWA% 3AIT & rd = 1
The price is great, the Page makes a serious impression. Striking, however: payment by credit card and Article location Tilburg.
I have just phoned Canon in Giessen. They have already taken legal action and will know all about this
definitely is not based both outlet. Just a warning s.alle of which can hide the attractive offers.
Regards
philema
Antwort von Markus:
Hello,
next guide this info s.eBay synonymous. They're always grateful if people complain about such offers.
Antwort von philema:
Yes true, I'll do the same times.
I once with someone who has bought in this Outlet is a MVX3i for 572 ¬ contact included. He has received the goods and it works perfectly. These are probably stolen goods ...
Antwort von Bernard Winterhalter:
Good day
Here I want to clarify that the Canon Outlet on eBay full of Canon is supported.
This is a Canon internal communication problem. The Canon Outlet on eBay is a distribution channel of Canon Europe (based in Holland) for Europe (UK, Germany, Italy, Nordics, France is built NL, Belgium). It is possible, therefore, that not every employee of Canon Germany knowing.
Another point is that Canon has nothing to do with our casting Konsumguetervertrieb, but is a production. The consumer marketing for Canon Germany has been managed in Giessen, but not in Krefeld.
Again, the Canon is an official outlet, sales of Canon fully supported with genuine Canon products. Of stolen goods can be no question.
Yours sincerely,
Bernard Winterhalter
Web Sales Manager, European
Canon Consumer Imaging
Tel: +31 (0) 20 - 545 81 84
Fax: +31 (0) 20 - 545 82 14
Canon Europa NV
Bovenkerkerweg 59-61
1185 XB Amstelveen
The Netherlands
Antwort von Videofan40:
Hello Forum Members
Before your trumpet such claims in the world, you ought to tell you once factually and disseminate such business interests claims about a serious business! The fact is that it is at this outlet is a canon-distributor on eBay, offering quality products and deliver them synonymous! Myself have made use of them!
Antwort von Markus:
Hello "Videofan40"
philema had indeed demand for the company Canon, before he published his information in the forum ...
I have just phoned Canon in Giessen. They have already taken legal action and will know all about this definitely is not based both outlet. ... but the internal communication was not fast or not good enough ...
Here I want to clarify that the Canon Outlet on eBay full of Canon is supported. This is a Canon internal communication problem. Who needs to repair the so what?
Antwort von Hendricks:
Canon Outlet sold every day of type 2 Printer Pixma IP4200 () overhaul on ebay.
This is not a good advertisement for Canon and not synonymous for the printer. If the breaks so fast!
Good for nothing he well?
Or?
I've seen in any other printer manufacturer that its printers must be completely overhauled so quickly.
Canon has probably problems with the technology that should not just work as planned?
Declaring this printer as a former exhibition pieces is probably a good publicity stunt?
Besides, why offer hampered Canon Outlet - Netherlands - the private providers to ebay your used Canon printers?
Canon Outlet offers only for 1 day.
Thus, the private deals probably will not come so quickly to the course.
Gelle.
Hendricks
Antwort von steveb:
na ... and they have now will get free advertising, is frequented every day in a forum of what many visitors .... :-)
Antwort von Bernd E.:
I have just phoned Canon in Giessen. Only once mentioned to be safe: Canon casting is (a manufacturing plant for copy machines!), So it has not yet with the sale s.Endkunden with camcorders do anything at all. Rather than take legal action against the unfamiliar Canon Outlet, it would indeed have been better, first time at the head office in Krefeld call or at least refer the customers there.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Hendricks:
na ... and they have now will get free advertising, is frequented every day in a forum of what many visitors .... Hi steveb,
Advertising is everything.
Therefore, I like to take your link to your homepage.
www.erbemusic.de
Hendricks
Antwort von Hendricks:
At stevab.
Advertising, is frequented every day in a forum of what many visitors .... --
They have done it once again.
Your link to your website, put up for dozens of times in this forum.
Well .... and now there is getting free publicity.
At my expense.
Again the question: why is the Canon Pixma IP4200 Canon of Outlok offered as Sauerbier? You should answer right on issues not properly sum up,! Greeting Hendricks
Antwort von PowerMac:
What do you want? We speculate that in the video forum, why any Ebay shop every day two printers sold? This is grotesque and ridiculous!
Antwort von Hendricks:
What do you want? We speculate that in the video forum, why any Ebay shop every day two printers sold? This is grotesque and ridiculous! What do I want?
An answer to my question!
Is that so hard to understand?
This printer is capable CD's and DVD's printed. Is this now the printer is, for these things to buy, or should not? Just for information:
I moviemakers, over 4 decades - all of my normal 8 and Super 8 films were of the Kopieranstallt Berola professionally transferred to video.
I now expect a competent answer, finally!
Antwort von Jan:
Remains quite loose (I must just say) None of the others want something bad.
I've been very surprised that Mr. Winterhalter so quickly here in touch with us - respect.
The IP 4200 is a very popular printer that is convincing in terms of image quality and printing costs, s.diesem model of iP series you get the USB high-speed connection and the separate ink tanks for effizent printer operation. CD & DVD printing is known as possible with Him.
Since the iP 4200 is selling very well, unfortunately synonymous gibts more repairs and major overhauls of the model as other lesser known models do not - are so in Focus. There may be a company that specializes in general repairs and "collects" the unfortunately not as working models of this book.
100% I can not say, of course, because I am not employed by Canon Germany.
VG
January
Antwort von PowerMac:
Hendricks, amateur filmmakers, I think you should read your views, what you write! I recognize only more stupid and unkind insinuations s.den Ebay shop. It was probably meant as a question to the printer ...
But you are dashing expectations s.dieses forum. Absolutely right, the "Kopieranstallt Berola" your movies but professionally transferred to video.
Antwort von steveb:
At stevab.
Advertising, is frequented every day in a forum of what many visitors .... --
They have done it once again.
Your link to your website, put up for dozens of times in this forum.
Well .... and now there is getting free publicity.
At my expense.
Again the question: why is the Canon Pixma IP4200 Canon of Outlok offered as Sauerbier?
You should answer right on issues not properly sum up,!
Greeting Hendricks ... the laugh is probably synonymous in the (video) Keller .... :-)
:-) This one means a joke / not serious ... questions Hendricks?
Antwort von Silver Spoon:
Hendricks, amateur filmmakers, I think you should read your views, what you write! I recognize only more stupid and unkind insinuations s.den Ebay shop. This again tells the right time .....
Laber and his buddy Steve is obviously synonymous back of the lot
Please close the thread.
:)
Antwort von AndyZZ:
What do I want?
An answer to my question!
Is that so hard to understand?
This printer is capable CD's and DVD's printed.
Is this now the printer is, for these things to buy, or should not?
Just for information:
I moviemakers, over 4 decades - all of my normal 8 and Super 8 films were of the Kopieranstallt Berola professionally transferred to video.
I now expect a competent answer, finally! First, you ask a competent answer!
Secondly, do you think we are all clairvoyant? How do we know whether the part that is good or not? All you'd have had to find someone who has been tested in a direct Comparison or at least from my own experience.
Third: What is your notice that you're amateur filmmakers for four decades to be good? Are you so Narrenfreiheit?
Antwort von Hendricks:
Remains quite loose (I must just say) None of the others want something bad.
I've been very surprised that Mr. Winterhalter so quickly here in touch with us - respect.
The IP 4200 is a very popular printer that is convincing in terms of image quality and printing costs, s.diesem model of iP series you get the USB high-speed connection and the separate ink tanks for effizent printer operation. CD & DVD printing is known as possible with Him.
Since the iP 4200 is selling very well, unfortunately synonymous gibts more repairs and major overhauls of the model as other lesser known models do not - are so in Focus. There may be a company that specializes in general repairs and "collects" the unfortunately not as working models of this book.
100% I can not say, of course, because I am not employed by Canon Germany.
VG
January Hello Jan,
thanks for the friendly reply.
I have no more questions.
Get before I buy a new printer, look at me a couple of other printers.
MfG
Hendricks
Antwort von PowerMac:
lol!
Antwort von Duxone:
Canon Outlet sold every day of type 2 Printer Pixma IP4200 () overhaul on ebay.
This is not a good advertisement for Canon and not synonymous for the printer. If the breaks so fast!
Good for nothing he well?
Or?
I've seen in any other printer manufacturer that its printers must be completely overhauled so quickly.
Canon has probably problems with the technology that should not just work as planned?
Declaring this printer as a former exhibition pieces is probably a good publicity stunt?
...
Hendricks In addition, one can say only one thing:
We can be happy that there's Manufacturer overtake their goods. And yes, the product must not be at all bad.
I work at a company recycles the product or wiedervermarktet.
At HP in Nijmegen as you make do not even bother to repair the goods. If it weakens a notebook is broken, no preference whether it was the CPU or memory just broken. The same happens with PCs. What happens with printers, you can probably imagine yourself. The cost schlieslich yes only a fraction of a notebook. Similarly, it works for Dell.
These companies see it as a loss of image, if defective or partially defective goods are returned to the trade, because there could be that they go again soon broken.
A bit of truth is inside probably synonymous.
Durm
Antwort von Lomes:
What do I want?
An answer to my question!
Is that so hard to understand?
This printer is capable CD's and DVD's printed.
Is this now the printer is, for these things to buy, or should not?
Just for information:
I moviemakers, over 4 decades - all of my normal 8 and Super 8 films were of the Kopieranstallt Berola professionally transferred to video.
I now expect a competent answer, finally!
First, you ask a competent answer!
Secondly, do you think we are all clairvoyant? How do we know whether the part that is good or not? All you'd have had to find someone who has been tested in a direct Comparison or at least from my own experience.
Third: What is your notice that you're amateur filmmakers for four decades to be good? Are you so Narrenfreiheit? Why is this agessive answer?
Here is an older Videographers offentsichlich the values quality.
Of obvious he has more experience with cine and video films now as you do.
If you question whether this printer is likely to not be able to print on CD's or DVD's with good labels to answer, then kindly keep your mouth shut.
Also here are not Nareren, and if so, then we have a nice hobby.
VG
Lomes
Antwort von PowerMac:
Hendricks Lomes =
Antwort von Videostudio:
Powermac = SteveB
Antwort von PowerMac:
PowerMac! Slascam = []
Antwort von früher wars besser:
[quote = "PowerMac"] PowerMac! Slascam = [] [/ quote]
THAT IS slashCAM, is it so hard to pay attention to the spelling ...
Antwort von megalutzi:
[quote = "earlier was better"] [quote = "PowerMac"] PowerMac! Slascam = [] [/ quote]
THAT IS slashCAM, is it so hard to pay attention to the spelling ...[/ quote]
In the past especially the tone was better.
Antwort von AndyZZ:
What do I want?
An answer to my question!
Is that so hard to understand?
This printer is capable CD's and DVD's printed.
Is this now the printer is, for these things to buy, or should not?
Just for information:
I moviemakers, over 4 decades - all of my normal 8 and Super 8 films were of the Kopieranstallt Berola professionally transferred to video.
I now expect a competent answer, finally!
First, you ask a competent answer!
Secondly, do you think we are all clairvoyant? How do we know whether the part that is good or not? All you'd have had to find someone who has been tested in a direct Comparison or at least from my own experience.
Third: What is your notice that you're amateur filmmakers for four decades to be good? Are you so Narrenfreiheit?
1. Why is this agessive answer?
Here is an older Videographers offentsichlich the values quality.
2. Of obvious he has more experience with cine and video films now as you do.
3. If you question whether this printer is likely to not be able to print on CD's or DVD's with good labels to answer, then kindly keep your mouth shut.
Also here are not Nareren, and if so, then we have a nice hobby.
VG
Lomes To 1 Quote:
I now expect a competent answer, finally! THE I feel as aggressive!
to 2 How do you know that? Because in bold with exclamation points and write? Or because the printing laboratory xyz has banned all of his films on video? Eventually live off the copy synonymous nor any crap on video.
to 3 I looked again: I have never seen in this thread your / his question, in which he for the QUALITY of CD / DVD printing prompting. But as I said, I'm like most people here probably synonymous, NO clairvoyant.
Antwort von 1:
What do I want?
An answer to my question!
Is that so hard to understand?
This printer is capable CD's and DVD's printed.
Is this now the printer is, for these things to buy, or should not?
Just for information:
I moviemakers, over 4 decades - all of my normal 8 and Super 8 films were of the Kopieranstallt Berola professionally transferred to video.
I now expect a competent answer, finally!
First, you ask a competent answer!
Secondly, do you think we are all clairvoyant? How do we know whether the part that is good or not? All you'd have had to find someone who has been tested in a direct Comparison or at least from my own experience.
Third: What is your notice that you're amateur filmmakers for four decades to be good? Are you so Narrenfreiheit?
1. Why is this agessive answer?
Here is an older Videographers offentsichlich the values quality.
2. Of obvious he has more experience with cine and video films now as you do.
3. If you question whether this printer is likely to not be able to print on CD's or DVD's with good labels to answer, then kindly keep your mouth shut.
Also here are not Nareren, and if so, then we have a nice hobby.
VG
Lomes
To 1 Quote: I now expect a competent answer, finally!
THE I feel as aggressive!
to 2 How do you know that? Because in bold with exclamation points and write? Or because the printing laboratory xyz has banned all of his films on video? Eventually live off the copy synonymous nor any crap on video.
to 3 I looked again: I have never seen in this thread your / his question, in which he for the QUALITY of CD / DVD printing prompting. But as I said, I'm like most people here probably synonymous, NO clairvoyant. Or because the printing laboratory xyz has banned all of his films on video? Eventually live off the copy synonymous nor any crap on video.
Are you jealous of not having been given this wonderful job?
I quote from your web page:
You want a video of your party? A wedding, a child's birthday or an anniversary?
Or do you want to spice up your vacation memories on film so that it will be interesting for others? With modern equipment and we will bring your desires to DVD, DVD-printed with water-resistant surface and an original Amaray DVD case including high-quality deposit.
Why is this envy? Greeting
Guest
Antwort von PowerMac:
We have some misunderstandings and this one .....
Grotesque what is deduced from some statements. Because Andy in a very different context, the cheap and utterly pointless showing off with the Videoabtastern set down to be irrelevant, so someone throws him now that he was envious of the contracts of the scanner? Grotesque and totally confused.
Antwort von AndyZZ:
Why is this envy?
Greeting
Guest Oj dear, oh dear ... Guest, you belong in the pats ...
I live outside of my hobby, and I'm obviously not synonymous envious.
I remembered not only partout, what conclusions can be inferred on the experience, the skill of a videographer, just because a printing laboratory to burn videos to DVD. But that will probably remain forever closed to me. Guest Please, look at my inability to ... I'm close to tears ... Sigh ...
So sometimes serious: How a silly chatter I've read not long ago. Moreover, I myself know what is on my homepage. Thank you to my visitor statistics helped to moderate the jumps!
Antwort von 1:
What do I want?
An answer to my question!
Is that so hard to understand?
This printer is capable CD's and DVD's printed.
Is this now the printer is, for these things to buy, or should not?
Just for information:
I moviemakers, over 4 decades - all of my normal 8 and Super 8 films were of the Kopieranstallt Berola professionally transferred to video.
I now expect a competent answer, finally!
First, you ask a competent answer!
Secondly, do you think we are all clairvoyant? How do we know whether the part that is good or not? All you'd have had to find someone who has been tested in a direct Comparison or at least from my own experience.
Third: What is your notice that you're amateur filmmakers for four decades to be good? Are you so Narrenfreiheit?
1. Why is this agessive answer?
Here is an older Videographers offentsichlich the values quality.
2. Of obvious he has more experience with cine and video films now as you do.
3. If you question whether this printer is likely to not be able to print on CD's or DVD's with good labels to answer, then kindly keep your mouth shut.
Also here are not Nareren, and if so, then we have a nice hobby.
VG
Lomes
To 1 Quote: I now expect a competent answer, finally!
THE I feel as aggressive!
to 2 How do you know that? Because in bold with exclamation points and write? Or because the printing laboratory xyz has banned all of his films on video? Eventually live off the copy synonymous nor any crap on video.
to 3 I looked again: I have never seen in this thread your / his question, in which he for the QUALITY of CD / DVD printing prompting. But as I said, I'm like most people here probably synonymous, NO clairvoyant.
Or because the printing laboratory xyz has banned all of his films on video? Eventually live off the copy synonymous nor any crap on video.
Are you jealous of not having been given this wonderful job?
I quote from your web page:
You want a video of your party? A wedding, a child's birthday or an anniversary?
Or do you want to spice up your vacation memories on film so that it will be interesting for others?
With modern equipment and we will bring your desires to DVD, DVD-printed with water-resistant surface and an original Amaray DVD case including high-quality deposit.
Why is this envy?
Greeting
Guest In addition to my question.
Why is this envy?
Why is he the Professional senzors assumed that each copy crap.
He copied this shit but synonymous. the beautiful family memories.
He does it synonymous but only because of the profit.
Why did he hurt me and represents me as an idiot?
Quote: You belong to the slap.
Why this failure? Greeting
Guest
Antwort von 1:
Why is this envy?
Why is he the Professional senzors assumed that each copy crap.
He copied this shit but synonymous. the beautiful family memories.
He does it synonymous but only because of the profit!
Why did he hurt me and represents me as an idiot?
Quote: You belong to the slap.
Why this failure? Greeting
Guest
Antwort von 1:
We have some misunderstandings and this one .....
Grotesque what is deduced from some statements. Because Andy in a very different context, the cheap and utterly pointless showing off with the Videoabtastern set down to be irrelevant, so someone throws him now that he was envious of the contracts of the scanner? Grotesque and totally confused. Why is this envy?
Why is he the Professional senzors assumed that each copy crap.
He copied this shit but synonymous. the beautiful family memories.
He does it synonymous but only because of the profit.
Why did he hurt me and represents me as an idiot?
Quote: You belong to the slap.
Why this failure? Greeting
Guest
Antwort von 1:
Why is this envy?
Why is he the Professional senzors assumed that each copy crap.
He copied this shit but synonymous. the beautiful family memories.
He does it synonymous but only because of the profit.
Why did he hurt me and represents me as an idiot?
Quote: You belong to the slap.
Why this failure? Greeting
Guest
Antwort von PowerMac:
(...) Why does he hurt me and represents me as an idiot? (...) Maybe because you are one?
Antwort von Biologe:
Oh Powermac, go back to the jungle to
other primates!
Antwort von steveb:
why I keep coming back to this "compulsory registration topic", if I read something ...
Antwort von Jan:
Listening, I'm please with Art smarter than you, just because I do this for some time.
A small example of me a few days ago: A customer makes a movie s.and 3 days later comes back to collect his pictures. The film was unfortunately not yet finalized. I've tried nicely with the customer to find the real reason to, "Did they perhaps use a slide film, or ordered a CD? Thereupon came to host this kind of" you fool I have been photographing for 40 years, I know exactly what film for what is good is, they Beginners.
2 days later, the film came and lo and behold - there is chrome on it - boom, even my apprentice, the 1 / 2 years there, bescheid knows it is there is a positive film, most are developed in the process of E 6, except for some Exotics (Ektachrome 64 etc) and it is usually the case of color slides.
So much I photograph / Videography already 40 years long. Is always the question of how ambitious the person concerned, it has made. More than a few SLR photographers have photographed the past 40 years, only Canon in the green program, select the beginning s.ihrer "many years" experience, the picture too much, never have worked with depth.
Sorry, I can not understand synonymous, why pushing another professional firm needs to prove its quality.
Let's take me, just because I have to s.and with the DSR PD 170 and working on the kit Manfrotto 503 / 525, I still belong to the long high-quality films for semi / professional class, with no preference whether some of the qualities of this class, just I like to film it.
In my youth I was just synonymous've always had some what of the others on it, pushed in front of me, just to swim with at his level.
VG
January
Antwort von AndyZZ:
Why is this envy?
Why is he the Professional senzors assumed that each copy crap.
He copied this shit but synonymous. the beautiful family memories.
He does it synonymous but only because of the profit.
Why did he hurt me and represents me as an idiot?
Quote: You belong to the slap.
Why this failure?
Greeting
Guest Sigh ... sigh .... Sigh and Kopfschüttel ...
Antwort von Shiwa:
More than a few SLR photographers have photographed the past 40 years, only Canon in the green program, select the beginning s.ihrer "many years" experience, the picture too much, never have worked with depth.
VG
January there is not one! The AE1 program appeared 1981st
Antwort von Bernd E.:
The AE1 program appeared 1981st And was second with Program mode on the Canon A-1 of 1978 ...
But is quite amazing where this thread develops so ;-)
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von prem:
The AE1 program appeared 1981st
And was second with Program mode on the Canon A-1 of 1978 ...
Gruß Bernd E. but not
green!
Antwort von Jan:
I mean the clever-dick & superior attitude of most visitors.
Ok, I obviously meant the automatic program, I hope the guest was now synonymous understood for a long time that's just the green program, nice hospitality that you have checked.
It is synonymous but different, as for instance in case of 2 Markus unambiguous Ausagen synonymous not alls. And believe me, we all make mistakes.
I still firmly believe s.meinen statements.
VG
January
Antwort von 1:
(...) Why does he hurt me and represents me as an idiot? (...)
Maybe because you are one? You seem not to have much in my head!
As yet, no constructive contribution Relating to have done!
Why? Intelliegenz is obviously not your thing! Greeting 1
Antwort von rtzbild:
Listening, I'm please with Art smarter than you, just because I do this for some time.
A small example of me a few days ago: A customer makes a movie s.and 3 days later comes back to collect his pictures. The film was unfortunately not yet finalized. I've tried nicely with the customer to find the real reason to, "Did they perhaps use a slide film, or ordered a CD? Thereupon came to host this kind of" you fool I have been photographing for 40 years, I know exactly what film for what is good is, they Beginners.
2 days later, the film came and lo and behold - there is chrome on it - boom, even my apprentice, the 1 / 2 years there, bescheid knows it is there is a positive film, most are developed in the process of E 6, except for some Exotics (Ektachrome 64 etc) and it is usually the case of color slides.
[...]
And unfortunately, the film the next night express is not there, the next but not synonymous, after a week not funny, shrill? ; oP
When the troll, I would develop in the night time cross, so E6 in the C-41-bath.
After all, he fotzografiert been 40 years, the dodderer.
Olli
* The share his views and stands it has no need to
Comment cowardly anonymous *
Antwort von klafu:
(...) Why does he hurt me and represents me as an idiot? (...)
Maybe because you are one?
You seem not to have much in my head!
As yet, no constructive contribution Relating to have done!
Why?
Intelliegenz is obviously not your thing!
Greeting 1 Those who live in glass houses ...
I would be very small to hold the flap and ashamed, whether such aberrations.
If you do not already 40 years of shooting would have on his back, I would say: pupertierender Sohnemann. Puberty does not take so long.
Antwort von Sondiq:
I would be very small to hold the flap and ashamed, whether such aberrations.
He does not Tut.
Otherwise, he would indeed synonymous barely over 1,000 posts
Antwort von nico:
Puberty does not take so long. Not true! Pupen can be up to old age - has long been synonymous when you get out of puberty.
But let's face it: What are these stupid insults?
Antwort von La Le Lu:
but not green! Hmmm, times have nachgekuckt on my old AE-1 and, depending on the lens, the automatic actually green. I've never noticed. Well, I've said good Erlich, the automatic synonymous never used sooo mad, the fact is not.
Antwort von 1:
You belong to the slap.
Is that all what hergibt your head, Mr. Dipl. Ing?
Greeting 1
Antwort von Jan:
If the sausage is completely synonymous button is green or red, the only important thing the Canon makes good pictures .....
VG
January
Antwort von La Le Lu:
Funny, was not really angry gemeit should all loosen up more here.
Well, a lot more fun.
Antwort von Jan:
I mean yes dear
Antwort von topgun:
Hello,
I'm sorry, but you have no other problems ?????
That is not to be endured!
Topgun
Antwort von grovel:
People,
There are users in the forum to write with a lot of hard work and helpful work for many years Comments: Andy, Jan, Steve, Stefan and synonymous Powermac part of it.
And then there comes a running up an anonymous poster, thinks he can make out from the context of issues where we have to guess half of himself and tells us that we must respond immediately.
Who exactly am I to sympathize?
Who is writing here is also erstmal same. Anyone can write, he would have x years of experience, but only where the people actually applies synonymous write competently. Hence, for each regular forum visitor in the assessment of competency only crucial thing to know about the quality of the statements of Mitpostern already know, everything else merely blah.
That the forum lately is becoming increasingly aggressive, in my view has little to do with the fact that the old hands are getting worse mood, but so that socially incompetent newcomers think they have to write fat and order us - and also they know everything better .
Now commands and accusations but little help in a forum. You are here, not in a client situation where we must treat you as king. We do it for free here and are not obliged to respond if we are annoying the sound, and still keep the mouth shut and not even someone rebuke.
The price that everyone is paid here to answer his questions polite, accurate and clear information and the patience to clarify, when you see that the question was not understood.
SeeYa grovel
Antwort von mdb:
The IP 4200 is a very popular printer that is convincing in terms of image quality and printing costs, s.diesem model of iP series you get the USB high-speed connection and the separate ink tanks for effizent printer operation. The separate tanks, it was already in 4000 and synonymous) in i865 (the predecessors. Therefore, the cartridges in 4200 are finally verdongelt, so not every Hinz and Kunz cheap replicas on the market.
Antwort von mdb:
Is this now the printer is, for these things to buy, or will not? The 4000 prints very well on DVD (as hundreds have already pushed). I'm always running drübergesprüht Color Protection Spray www.feurio.de of which then has purchased almost like.
Antwort von Jan:
I had meant the current models, even when inkjets I'm pretty close to s.einer 0 - do not stop the pressure freak.
I meant it really nice with the green / red button now.
VG
January
Antwort von Hendricks:
Is this now the printer is, for these things to buy, or will not? The 4000 prints very well on DVD (as hundreds have already pushed). I'm always running drübergesprüht Color Protection Spray www.feurio.de of which then has purchased almost like. Yes, the printer is already good. It prints really good on DVD's and CD's. Can only confirm.
But the cartridges are very expensive. After the 3rd set of original ink cartridges (approx. 65, - EURO), I sold the printer. The inks are more permanent too expensive for me.
I therefore returned to my own brand. The printed synonymous DVD's, in the same quality but with cheap ink cartridges.
Thanks for pointing out the color protection spray of www.feurio.de.
Among the Canon printers: First, I had the Canon Pixma iP5200. Because of the network with multiple computers (Apple, Linux and Windows) can be used simultaneously. Unfortunately, the thing has worked only one week, then he ran himself unable to turn.
The IP4000, which is synonymous with alternative ink cartridges run, it is unfortunately not available anymore. Or very expensive.
VG
Hendricks
Antwort von Lomes:
People,
There are users in the forum to write with a lot of hard work and helpful work for many years Comments: Andy, Jan, Steve, Stefan and synonymous Powermac part of it.
And then there comes a running up an anonymous poster, thinks he can make out from the context of issues where we have to guess half of himself and tells us that we must respond immediately.
Who exactly am I to sympathize?
Who is writing here is also erstmal same. Anyone can write, he would have x years of experience, but only where the people actually applies synonymous write competently. Hence, for each regular forum visitor in the assessment of competency only crucial thing to know about the quality of the statements of Mitpostern already know, everything else merely blah.
That the forum lately is becoming increasingly aggressive, in my view has little to do with the fact that the old hands are getting worse mood, but so that socially incompetent newcomers think they have to write fat and order us - and also they know everything better .
Now commands and accusations but little help in a forum. You are here, not in a client situation where we must treat you as king. We do it for free here and are not obliged to respond if we are annoying the sound, and still keep the mouth shut and not even someone rebuke.
The price that everyone is paid here to answer his questions polite, accurate and clear information and the patience to clarify, when you see that the question was not understood.
SeeYa grovel Helpful comments of Andy, Jan, Steve, Stefan and PowerMac?
Since I would be very careful. I go to the Forum a particularly intelligent contributions searched this user. Unfortunately, since I encountered a very negative results.
Helpful comments?
These users have often responded in a shocking way aggressive or offensive.
From the profiles of these users, I gather that they have enjoyed a good education.
But that does not say much about their social behavior. Because they probably have problems.
x years of experience. I guess because you hate your contribution reaches retirement age. So you're very competent.
The Forum that is becoming increasingly aggressive in recent times, but probably has to do with the old hare. They think, their opinion is the "Non Pros Ultra.
That it is not. It is the bias, the alls, the nerds, etc.
Socially incompetent newcomers, what a terrible record. What a horrible thoughts about people who have not been your experience. Yes and the synonymous nor write in bold, what an insult to you.
Again with the word "social".
You ask at what level these people.
Are not shaved, unwashed, migrants, followed religös people or what? I repudiate with such utterances.
Are you racist.
Then that would be an event for the federal prosecutor. No new commands will be issued. We're not in the military.
You write of politeness. Your article is polite but written with an underlying arrogance that is second to none.
VG
Lomes
Antwort von AndyZZ:
Since I would be very careful. I go to the Forum a particularly intelligent contributions searched this user. Unfortunately, since I encountered a very negative results.
Helpful comments?
These users have often responded in a shocking way aggressive or offensive.
Times I would doubt that you have you actually looked through the thousands of contributions from the above. At most, the last couple of which might be characterized quite aggressive. The so are synonymous in almost all such threads like this one. The fact that these threads are hardly meaningful content, we need hardly be stressed.
Maybe you had your synonymous to synonymous questions of newcomers to our comments were made to watch, sometimes. And acted primarily as a meaningful counter-questions, in many cases. Our aggression is often only a reflection. And if you ask 50 times someone s.Tag: What time is it? ", While you stand under a huge clock, then at some annoying. Synonymous Then you will say to him: Look, there hangs a clock. Lies from himself. And then the next question still 50 times s.Tag. Then you will unnerving answer: Man, there hangs a clock! You can not read the clock! Or is it?
This whole thread would be completely pointless unnecessary, if mankind would not be so stinking become lazy and would have made any responsibility for one's own ego and the environment, at least closer. And if these people will go badly, because they worry about ANYTHING yourself to take more responsibility for NOTHING, then they whine and complain that all the other s.ihrer debt situation. THE Kotzt AT ME!
I am in MY life, doing for MY, responsible for MY family, no one else
People, take on again RESPONSIBILITY for what you do. Learn to help yourselves. We are trying to give to help themselves. Instead, get stupid answers. Who ever and always rely on others, will always be dependent on others and never get anything.
But that is already enshrined in various PISA studies. And spelling, which is said of newcomers are often used here, also makes me doubt s.der future of our country. Ah ... I forgot ... Of course the teachers are to blame, that we are no longer able to write properly ....
Sighs, groans, ächz ...
Hopefully this thread will soon have an end ...
Antwort von PowerMac:
People,
There are users in the forum to write with a lot of hard work and helpful work for many years Comments: Andy, Jan, Steve, Stefan and synonymous Powermac part of it.
And then there comes a running up an anonymous poster, thinks he can make out from the context of issues where we have to guess half of himself and tells us that we must respond immediately.
Who exactly am I to sympathize?
Who is writing here is also erstmal same. Anyone can write, he would have x years of experience, but only where the people actually applies synonymous write competently. Hence, for each regular forum visitor in the assessment of competency only crucial thing to know about the quality of the statements of Mitpostern already know, everything else merely blah.
That the forum lately is becoming increasingly aggressive, in my view has little to do with the fact that the old hands are getting worse mood, but so that socially incompetent newcomers think they have to write fat and order us - and also they know everything better .
Now commands and accusations but little help in a forum. You are here, not in a client situation where we must treat you as king. We do it for free here and are not obliged to respond if we are annoying the sound, and still keep the mouth shut and not even someone rebuke.
The price that everyone is paid here to answer his questions polite, accurate and clear information and the patience to clarify, when you see that the question was not understood.
SeeYa grovel
Helpful comments of Andy, Jan, Steve, Stefan and PowerMac?
Since I would be very careful. I go to the Forum a particularly intelligent contributions searched this user. Unfortunately, since I encountered a very negative results.
Helpful comments?
These users have often responded in a shocking way aggressive or offensive.
From the profiles of these users, I gather that they have enjoyed a good education.
But that does not say much about their social behavior. Because they probably have problems.
x years of experience. I guess because you hate your contribution reaches retirement age. So you're very competent.
The Forum that is becoming increasingly aggressive in recent times, but probably has to do with the old hare. They think, their opinion is the "Non Pros Ultra.
That it is not. It is the bias, the alls, the nerds, etc.
Socially incompetent newcomers, what a terrible record. What a horrible thoughts about people who have not been your experience. Yes and the synonymous nor write in bold, what an insult to you.
Again with the word "social".
You ask at what level these people.
Are not shaved, unwashed, migrants, followed religös people or what? I repudiate with such utterances.
Are you racist.
Then that would be an event for the federal prosecutor.
No new commands will be issued. We're not in the military.
You write of politeness. Your article is polite but written with an underlying arrogance that is second to none.
VG
Lomes Boy, if you want to judge and say something like, then please learn German and spelling. Not to make anyone topicless sentence for emphasis, and a blank for questions is a question mark. And please let the with the foreign words. Incidentally, I did not understand all your blah-blah. What would happen if you just say what you mean? What are you driving? You have mastered the art of words is not, so let it.
But even this paragraph:
"Again with the word" social ".
You ask at what level these people.
Are not shaved, unwashed, migrants, followed religös people or what? I repudiate with such utterances.
Are you racist.
Then that would be an event for the federal prosecutor. "
Antwort von PowerMac:
So now time for content!
(...) Helpful comments of Andy, Jan, Steve, Stefan and PowerMac?
Since I would be very careful. I go to the Forum a particularly intelligent contributions searched this user. Unfortunately, since I encountered a very negative results.
Helpful comments?
These users have often responded in a shocking way aggressive or offensive. (...) You mix here is "intelligent" with "negative intelligence," "aggressive," "insulting" and "helpful." Erstmal This is wrong and biased. There is no maxim in a forum, as we should be idealistic. Unfortunately, intelligence is fixed and immutable rather why they can create bad as a benchmark and Forum entry criterion. Just because you are the contributions of certain users as "shockingly aggressive or insulting" feel, is still far from being an objective fact, but opinion of a talker. Who is to say in a forum you must be so friendly that some Lomes was satisfied? Nobody. How are relatively friendly. As friendly as it is in our situation as human beings with feelings of constant stimuli and just go. If one can arrogate to themselves an authority in a forum, then s.ehesten if you have education. And have you cited of users.
(...) The profiles of these users, I understand that they have enjoyed a good education.
But that does not say much about their social behavior. Because they probably have problems.
x years of experience. I guess because you hate your contribution reaches retirement age. So you're very competent. (...) Blabla. "Because they probably have problems" - that is your personal perception and assessment. What has age to do with competence? Nothing!
(...) That the forum lately is becoming increasingly aggressive, but probably has to do with the old hare. They think, their opinion is the "Non Pros Ultra.
That it is not. It is the bias, the alls, the nerds, etc. (...) Oh, that's "probably still with the old hands to do" to? How do you say that? Does that have fallen over a glass of red wine like that? Or do you read every post of this forum, and then imagining a final question? You do not know this forum and therefore can not rate. Especially since you have the posts of certain users who you accuse, until shortly before flying over. Thus, no one takes you seriously. Okay, you want to put my thoughts into question? My opinion is so biased, and alls I'm a professional idiot? Then proved to me once. Best with contributions (which could not prove this charge anyway). Be glad that here a voice professionals. But would not such a low level of "arrogant". Yes, you here represent the pseudo-illiterate PICTURE Group. Once such people are no longer able to articulate, they denounce government, civic, education and speak condescendingly of "nerds". Here, not there moves. Give it time s.Stammtisch.
(...) Social incompetent newcomers, what a terrible record. What a horrible thoughts about people who have not been your experience. Yes and the synonymous nor write in bold, what an insult to you. (...) If we transfer times, such a situation the hard reality. Someone looking for something in a library, and runs screaming through the neighborhood and asked by him. "Anyone who tells me Ferarri-building? I want to win a race!" Once someone pointed him to the search function, it is gooey and accused the elite, associational, condescending educated elite of their latent racism. It dares anyone to question, with which he is traveling as impractical or unrealistic to call, it will be even worse. It's social incompetence. But not if "ordinary user" s.and s.genervt respond to such requests. Here it is human. If a
Antwort von steve:
Helpful comments of Andy, Jan, Steve, Stefan and PowerMac?
Since I would be very careful. I go to the Forum a particularly intelligent contributions searched this user. Unfortunately, since I encountered a very negative results.
Helpful comments?
These users have often responded in a shocking way aggressive or offensive.
Lomes Even if I do not always agree with macs answers, this posting goes too far!
When I look at my posts, I often find s.end the thread a "thank you" or "exactly what it was ..."
Also the other mentioned decently worded questions to give proper answers.
A major disadvantage of this forum is that a "google" for the best entry-level camera, film look, etc. almost always refers to this forum. A search in the Forum involved in the viewfinder more answers like "search ask ...". So is asked for the third time it myself. The answer to this question is well known ...
So if the "Dauerbeantworter" would simply ignore these questions would be, this forum continues to be a fine medium to benefit from the knowledge of others.
When users start but that forum should sift through in a meaningful Answers relating to, aufzustempeln your interpretation of insult and then ask the people s.den pillory, we consider whether the effort is worthwhile answers yet.
I have learned much from this forum and would like to give something back eigendlich of knowledge. After these posts I wonder which is now five times ...
Steve
Antwort von Eva Maier:
Can there be anyone willing to end this discourse, - he steals my time and annoying - after all, should be indeed a Viedeo forum.
/ Eve
