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Frage von jfreak:


Hello,

because my old hard disk recorder and would like to scrap that no data or network connections such as USB, I am committed to the material by Dazzle 120 to bring to my calculator. Unfortunately, the device only synonymous Scart output and no S-video or composite (for sound). So, I made a composite scart adapter purchased (fully occupied - at least, looks like this, on the other a yellow and a white cable (mono only)). Since the screen remains black, ie no signal. Also, a different cable did not work.

The problem seems to be the recorder - a Nokia Mediamaster. I concur that the composite cable s.Kameraanschluss front of my TV, everything remains synonymous black. The recorder is set to RGB output, but would still PAL (I always thought NTSC PAL as an image size and not as a transmission RGB format?).

How can I resolve it?

Gruß,

Lars

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Antwort von thos-berlin:

Try it with PAL!

This is not technically correct, but probably appropriate description. This is FBAS, but that is hardly a normal VCR users anything. Your card is definitely not RGB, certainly not if you connect via FBAS ;-) Also non-functioning front entrance of your TV "confirmed my suspicion."

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Antwort von jfreak:

Hello,

PAL will also unfortunately nothing! I have checked the connection s.Television (actually a Grundig unit in which you can very precisely, which s.welchem input signal). On so-called front AV input expects the Television FBAS (not adjustable). I have both devices simultaneously connected:

HDD Recorder AUX <-> Front-AV
HDD recorder TV <-> SCART 1

(and vice versa)

It works with any setting s.Recorder (PAL / RGB) s.Scart input, but never s.Front AV.

Where is the problem?

Gruß Lars

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Antwort von Frank B.:

There are Scart - RCA and RCA - Scart adapter. This adapter works because of the pinout on Scart times each in only one direction. The info that the cable vollbelegt is nonsense. For FBAS - video plus audio, you need only connect to four pins on the Scart Male. You need an adapter of Scart to RCA (the most only go in the opposite direction !!!).
About Scart different types of signals transmitted. To do this you need to know what your Wiedergagegerät outputs. FBAS is likely. Possibly synonymous RGB (which has Dazzle your box does not). But perhaps the instrument synonymous S-Video (Y / C). In this case you can have a scart synonymous - Hosiden - Adapters (Scart to S-Video Male) in the box to restore the Dazzle, which is a higher quality compared to the transfer means FBAS.
There is the possibility of synonymous, using RGB - Y / C - converts to a better image quality than when FBAS transfer.

Frank

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Antwort von jfreak:

Hello,

Unfortunately, the hard disk recorder has only one scart output and two RCA audio jacks. At Dazzle stand me three RCA jacks and an S-video input is available.

Practically this means that I made a Scart> RCA adapter growth must be, right?

Gruß Lars

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Antwort von Frank B.:

Scart is just the design. This says nothing about the signal from what is transmitted. About Scart will usRGB, CVBS and Y / C - (composite) signals. In most cases, on the scart socket of amateur devices CVBS signal. With a Scart to RCA adapter, you'll most likely so with success. With a cinch to Scart wirds nothing, because as the pins in the scart times are otherwise occupied.

About Scart So, as I said, synonymous higher types of signals are transferred, often at the same time with a CVBS signal. This should in the instructions of the player are available. If that's the case, you give away with a SCART-RCA adapter much quality. Then you should try on the Y / C input of your recording device to be adapted. Possibly. just with an RGB-Y / C converter.
I hope this time midway understood to have expressed. If not, simply ask again, no problem.

Frank

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Antwort von thos-berlin:

Yes, but .....

Did you in your experiments with the scart connections synonymous times they exchanged? Each non-scart connection of a recorder is one-and output (As you've probably noticed, because in your next post, you have only one output Scrat ....). For the SAT connection provided can be synonymous with no output. (AUX? War in your building s.Front AV on the TV)

Otherwise, although you already have a scart-RCA adapter, which you with the front of your TV AV've tried, right?

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Antwort von globalvj:

Hello,

thanks for the answers!

"Frank B." wrote: Scart is just the design. This says nothing about the signal from what is transmitted. About Scart will usRGB, CVBS and Y / C - (composite) signals. In most cases, on the scart socket of amateur devices CVBS signal. With a Scart to RCA adapter, you'll most likely so with success. With a cinch to Scart wirds nothing, because as the pins in the scart times are otherwise occupied.

I now understood the extent. I was already always wondered what the many pins s.Scart-times are good.

"Frank B." wrote: About Scart So, as I said, synonymous higher types of signals are transferred, often at the same time with a CVBS signal. This should in the instructions of the player are available. If that's the case, you give away with a SCART-RCA adapter much quality. Then you should try on the Y / C input of your recording device to be adapted. Possibly. just with an RGB-Y / C converter.

Quality is not so important. Main one can see anything:) It is really as it appears s.Television. These are just some shots that I consider myself to archive.

"thos-berlin" wrote: Did you in your experiments with the scart connections synonymous times they exchanged? Each non-scart connection of a recorder is one-and output (As you've probably noticed, because in your next post, you have only one output Scrat ....). For the SAT connection provided can be synonymous with no output. (AUX? War in your building s.Front AV on the TV)

Otherwise, although you already have a scart-RCA adapter, which you with the front of your TV AV've tried, right? [/ qoute]

The front AV input of my TV I only brought into play, because I so quickly can determine whether everything is working as I want. Anyone who has ever used Pinnacle Studio, who knows what I mean. Before I come with the Dazzle to record, must have passed a few minutes. Since it is even more annoying when I have a black screen and front of stage. -> Front-AV, I can quickly see whether everything works.

In the first post I wrote that the recorder only has Scart output. I meant that he only Picture Scart output (and as either RGB or CVBS or PAL). The scart sockets are s.Recorder with labeled AUX and TV and, according to manual should only differ in that the TV volume control is passed and not in AUX. I have tried both outputs, both of course not work (if the cable does not fit). What I do not understand is why I have a scart input needed.

Again to clarify --

I will have it:

Recorder - Scart output 1 -> TV - Scart input (reference)
Recorder - Scart output 2 -> Dazzle - RCA inputs

it is currently (for the test, Dazzle TV is replaced by):

Recorder - Scart output 1 -> TV - Scart input (reference)
Recorder - Scart output 2 -> TV - front AV input (instead of the Dazzle)

Gruß Lars


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Antwort von jfreak:

Sorry, the rest is of course not cite ...

The front AV input of my TV I only brought into play, because I so quickly can determine whether everything is working as I want. Anyone who has ever used Pinnacle Studio, who knows what I mean. Before I come with the Dazzle to record, must have passed a few minutes. Since it is even more annoying when I have a black screen and front of stage. -> Front-AV, I can quickly see whether everything works.

In the first post I wrote that the recorder only has Scart output. I meant that he only Picture Scart output (and as either RGB or CVBS or PAL). The scart sockets are s.Recorder with labeled AUX and TV and, according to manual should only differ in that the TV volume control is passed and not in AUX. I have tried both outputs, both of course not work (if the cable does not fit). What I do not understand is why I have a scart input needed.

Again to clarify --

I will have it:

Recorder - Scart output 1 -> TV - Scart input (reference)
Recorder - Scart output 2 -> Dazzle - RCA inputs

it is currently (for the test, Dazzle TV is replaced by):

Recorder - Scart output 1 -> TV - Scart input (reference)
Recorder - Scart output 2 -> TV - front AV input (instead of the Dazzle)

Gruß Lars

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Antwort von thos-berlin:

The fact that the Scart-Scart connection Recorder Television works is ever beautiful. Functioning of both (!) Scart connections on the recorder so s.Television?

The Scart input, I have therefore brought into play, because sometimes there devices in which the second Scart connector is only one input. Then you can not, of course, as the output to another device. Therefore, the above test.

If both outputs are (that you've actually been confirmed), you can use your connection as a reference monitor to take to see if and how your player is running.

The idea of the AV front of the TV as a second test to take is good, because the connections because the Dazzle correct.

For this connection so you have a SCART-RCA adapter. But perhaps the wrong (!). In Scart times for different input and output lines provided. If your adapter for connecting a signal via RCA for recording on the recorder is running, you get the adapter with no signal from the recorder out.

For this reason there is synonymous Scart-RCA adapter with two stereo connectors and two video ports. The input and output once. Since both works. There are also adapter with only one video connector and a stereo connector. The then have a switch "In - Out". There's either one or the other.

There are synonymous adapter, which are firmly wired with only one video - and a stereo connector. Since then, it must be the right one .....

I assume that your problem could be. Scart adapter, for example: a simple video camera or a Fortoapparat with television, are usually have: an adapter for the import into the recorder (only question is, in this case), not for the emergence of the driving signal from the recorder. ... Did you so? Then you another.

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Antwort von jfreak:

Hello,

Now I know what the problem. After your last post I have demanded, where the power comes on - it was last (successfully) for the copying of an analog video to VHS video camera used. So wrong direction. Then I know that I now buy a new cable going.

Gruß Lars

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Antwort von Frank B.:

So, it was not so hard. This is really mostly the fault of these adapters. Like thos-berlin already wrote, there is synonymous switchable RCA - Scart / Scart - RCA adapter or what, s.denen all cables for Out In un available. Thus, you can then work in both directions. Since you already but for the RCA - Scart to have, something is really not necessary.
The signal quality with the course you have to decide for themselves.

Frank

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Antwort von thos-berlin:

Toi toi toi. I hope for a positive feedback after using the new adapter ;-)

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