Frage von janffm:
hello together,
I am trying times to be brief. how many in this forum, I am again with my new system zuzulegen and hardly begins s.ergeben so you always wonder what more hardware, operating system for which s.oder the shake, the best and most cost-is.
The first idea I had was.:
MSI P35 neo2 with e8400 intel and any 8800gt. All total there are already for 400 euros. actually not bad if you with my pentium d compares.
but then I rise to this benchmark:
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html
Thus, all Xeon processors, in particular, the new 54er massively superior to all others. It is anyway difficult to compare the consumer with the Xeons chips to find a benchmark of the respective s.berücksichtigt (you know one?).
The next topic is, of course, in addition to coal, the future prospects, and the msi e8400 variant is already exhausted.
therefore the alternative:
server motherboard with intel 5420xeon and 8800gt. makes a total of approximately 750 Euros - nearly twice as much for the same performance? However, with the option for a second quad. what do you think?
how to use s.oder shake the quadprozessoren? There is a conversion to dualcpus? makes a 8800gt even meaningful? a friend of me comes with an older dual core system to approximately 11% more performance when rendering with opengl. and does it without fail synonymous? (he says "was just scrap it out").
there would be quite a new topic - GPU rendering. because someone has experience? Keywords are cuda and sli.
and how much ram it needs. good xp supports only 3 gig, or ae, since only a 32bit variant present at only 2 gig. then I need but actually max 4 if I only had s.laufen. looks at how the shake out? which operating system to shake s.oder would you recommend? would be windows 2005 Server in order for ae?
as you see I zermartere my brain :-) I appreciate each posting the next brings me somehow. practical experience would be super.
thank you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! jan
Antwort von PowerMac:
Shake runs only on Mac OS X. Therefore I seriously recommend a small Mac mini or an iMac.
Antwort von O`Shannon:
hello together,
I am trying times to be brief. how many in this forum, I am again with my new system zuzulegen and hardly begins s.ergeben so you always wonder what more hardware, operating system for which s.oder the shake, the best and most cost-is.
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Quark, Quark and Quark again. What do you want with'nem ServerOS and AE? That can you loose 30% performance cost (security settings, additional services, Journalling, etc.). WinXP 64 or Vista64, everything you need and all what you get support and graphics card drivers.
If you do not plan to have questions about your server boards, the second quad-core processor and memory ohenhin absolute and total sense - what should p.8 cores useful if you only have 4GB of memory and thus no Multiprocessing in AE you can use or synonymous Other Programs (Programs 3D, etc.) under full abrauchen? 32bit programs / processes to support in general and the 4GB of RAM can be found on 64bit operating systems such as XP 64 synonymous use. That some other systems in real terms only 3 GB (OSX) or 2.5 GB (Vista32) release, is another matter and has nothing with even AE to do.
What your friend with OpenGL, is its matter, but presumably he did not understand what it is used in AE and where the borders of the whole subject. So classic case of guilt itself. You should already know what OpenGL at all and what can not. AE is used incidentally hard wired Cg shader and of course all the OpenGL standard functions, has GLHSL with CUDA and so nix s.Hut.
8800 may work, but does not need. There seems to be a deep-seated problem with the hardware in combination with quad processors to enter. Forums for 3D-Programs and the official Adobe forum are filled with questions. A simple card would be preferable if in doubt.
Shake is dead and there's / there's only for Mac, the question is just as meaningful free. A simple Google search would have brought to light that Apple is already 2 years ago announced that the product set. Whether and what comes next as a successor remains to be seen, but according to recent reports is the fabled "Phenomenon" and not to delay the NAB presented. So Can noch'n while. In any case, the 400 euros for Shake but at the moment rausgeworfenes Money.
Yet what benchmarks relating to: Ridiculous. Neither the Slashcam Benchmark nor any others have any relevance to the topic. It is a composition with 2 layers in AE to create the picture renders per 10 minutes, if only it is enough effects and compositions can be reversed with 300 layers, the only way wegzischen ... Abstract computer performance is not everything. You use 11% more power does nothing, if only qualitatively futile idiocy rauskommt (see your mates). Get used to flexible application programs, not pre-programmed games.
Mylenium
Antwort von PowerMac:
Shake is dead and there's / there's only for Mac, the question is just as meaningful free. (...) In any case, the 400 euros for Shake but at the moment rausgeworfenes Money. (...) Why should 400 for probably the best compositing program kicked out his money? A product is s.sich to assess. Shake is good. 400 euros are mocking cheap. Shake That probably a successor concept with something else gets, so it has nothing to do. What relevance it should have when a program in its current form is not being developed?
Do you think all the shake-skills are useless for the successor?
Do you believe that one could no good upgrades for the successor to get?
The claim that money into a program to invest, which in its present form is not further developed, was "kicked out money is stupid.
Antwort von O`Shannon:
Shake is dead and there's / there's only for Mac, the question is just as meaningful free. (...) In any case, the 400 euros for Shake but at the moment rausgeworfenes Money. (...)
Why should 400 for probably the best compositing program kicked out his money? Na so and still come out laughing, I do not fall asleep. Nuke ever used? Fusion? 3D compositing? Particle systems? Custom Data Channel? Shake just goes with coarse dislocations.
Do you think all the shake-skills are useless for the successor? Höh? Half the team is "emigrated", all facilities to swirl around time on Nuke. Phenomenon with security is something entirely different than it was Shake. None is needed clairvoyant abilities voherzusagen that Apple is in a market that it currently loses, again not of scratch and in fights with other grave entangled. The high-end compositing market is too small and elsewhere, there's more to earn.
You can also talk about the beautiful as you want - Shake technology is completely outdated and unfortunately one of those victims of Apple's "buy me what I do and not much" politics. there would have been much more must come.
And do not start with prices. Have you used Shake, when there were a few thousand euro cost? Was it because your first choice or haste with his teeth geknirscht,'s you because you could not afford? Are you not rather to all the beautiful Marketinggeblubber to "Lord of the Rings" and other movies in which Shake has been used extensively, with envy erblasst?
Sorry, you confuse Apple's sell-off here (you only can make when you're in a product does not need to invest more) with some idealized picture in your head.
Mylenium
