Frage von pay.c:
Hello s.Alle,
I hope times, you can help me. I am looking now for a half eternity after a gescheiden camcorder. Here is my current curriculum vitae and the reasons why I use the camcorder again given back to you:
SonyTRV-270 (Digi8 Cam) -> run saulaute noises can be heard from 10 meters away
Panasonic NV-GS230 (MiniDV) -> better in the run sounds, but yes times zero equipment. Lowlight sensitivity of pure joke ... (which is relatively important to me)
SonyHC47 (MiniDV) -> YES NÖÖÖ anywhere winner, but again evil noise! Permanent Fiepen accompanies the Studio!
So I'm really desire! I think the one with NightShot + Sonyden other really well, but the noise is due to make a permanent Kirr!
Now, I would * really * like to run because of the noise to change HDD (DCR-SR32 of Sonyins envisaged) and have only really worry about the noise here synonymous run my life to hell to make. Apart from that one here so often of HDD's is discouraged. THE problem with the quality which I have not, will not necessarily burn DVDs. Postprocessing yes (cut, color and so what about this one), but must not have HD quality.
Sun, and now the Grätchenfrage: Please say me if this the right way, or whether the fourth time I fly (would be) and why. If DV but what Cam has good Lowlight sensitivity and low running noise? Apart of the great Firewire problem with which I am also struggling ...
GREETINGS AND THANK YOU! :)
Antwort von Markus:
This posting (and there linked contributions) relating to noise is expected to drive you interested in:
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Which camcorder is up to max. 350 ¬ to recommend?
Antwort von urban-orange:
Supi, Danke, hab da synonymous posted purely equal, then there will write next.
PS: Danke fürs s.den Mod right move and sorry! :)
Antwort von Markus:
Supi, Danke, hab da synonymous posted purely equal, then there will write next. Here we are primarily concerned with camcorders up to 350 ¬, while the sound recording - as so often - more of a peripheral issue.
A marked improvement until his own camcorder, microphones, do not sit in the same housing as the drive. Those camcorders are moving but in a completely different price regions (eg SonyVX2100).
For a reduction of annoying noise could be synonymous provide an extra microphone, which has a mechanical spider is decoupled from the camcorder. But this solution synonymous (Microphone, Spider, Accessory shoe adapter) is a quick three- ¬ amount.
And last but not least, even the best directional microphone noise is not completely ignore if it is in direct proximity to the drive on the camcorder sits. Recordings are really good only if no disturbing noise source in the vicinity of the microphone is located. But then we would be in the Sound and an Angel Tonassistenten ...
The only times as a glance.
Antwort von mmax:
Supi, Thanks for the info! But then that is a quasi-HDD recorder auto generate less noise, right? Except it will be like crazy on the hard drive out and hergeswitcht, but I can help me with a continuous recording is difficult to imagine.
Then against HDD would "only" (sorry for the understatement) the quality issue remains what happens in my home now * not * the problem. I think I will be me in Blöd market times one / two HDD recorder and listen.
Thank you very much!
Antwort von AndyZZ:
Supi, Thanks for the info! But then that is a quasi-HDD recorder auto generate less noise, right?
Listening to you but a device in stores at times. Many / some HDD camcorders have built-in cooling fan (!) That may be heard are synonymous.
And if as a hard drive with some 1000 rpm rotates synonymous should not be totally silent.
Antwort von Markus73:
But then that is a quasi-HDD recorder auto generate less noise, right? This logic, I can not quite understand. A hard drive is primarily a very fast moving (double, triple ...) disc, which for that reason just produce noise, as synonymous, the head drum in a Mini-DV device does. From the head noises during disk access times quite apart ...
Anyone who has ever tried a PC to get low, who knows what share of the hard drive has s.Betriebsgeräusch.
Apart from that you seem to have high standards: All of Panasonics that I previously had in his hand, had drive noise, only in absolute silence on the recording were noted. Should read: In normal operation, they were not heard.
Gruß,
Markus
Antwort von pay.c:
Nöö, the Panasonic so I found the barrel of her synonymous sounds really good. At least better than the lengths SonyHC47. Hence jaaa, claims already, but high? Panasonic creates yes. With Panasonic, I was only on the function scope a little disappointed (with the Panasonic Lowlight was sort of in the knee, software was also nix it - no drivers, not even nüx). Can course, the other (more expensive) rather Panasonics can outdo.
HDD loud? Ööööhm ... directly: Nope. When my hard disk access, but a rotating hard drive makes no noise. That was perhaps times before 5 p.m. to 10 p.m. years yet the case, but if you now a Western Digital or Seagate or ... Plate buy, you can hear almost nothing more. Even the disk access is barely audible.
Antwort von Markus73:
HDD loud? Ööööhm ... directly: Nope. When my hard disk access, but a rotating hard drive makes no noise. Not loud, but audible.
Take a case to go with the ear in the vicinity and you'll hear it (if it's not from the CPU or power supply fan will overpowers).
And about as close to the micro synonymous sits in a camcorder, while here the additional difficulty is that both are more or less firmly s.gleichen housing are mounted.
For the PC, there are even parts of the acoustic decoupling hard.
Gruß,
Markus
Antwort von glumschie:
Hi Markus73,
here and my report on the first HDD-Cam that I have brought:
Antwort von Markus73:
Conclusion: 1A, nix, gar nix of the hard drive to listen. No Comparison to MiniDV camcorders. Nice, I give it to you :-) Add: No Comparison to the MiniDV camcorders, you've Tested. When I heard that no drive noise, I would be very upset synonymous.
Gruß,
Markus
Antwort von glumschie:
True, I like better times, I have something to propose. Greetings! :)
