Frage von dirtbiker:
Hello,
I'm relatively new to the scene had already informed me but still do not know what camcorder I should get.
I need a camcorder with the shots I mountain bike in the
woods can make (ie, one for fast movements)
And s.besten one of MiniDV recording.
It should not be more than 400 ¬ s.besten cost and would then need a second-hand.
Would be nice if you give me a couple of camcorder would specify.
Have also of the Panasonic NV GS300 seen with a VB of 350 ¬. Is this a good offer?
Thank you in advance in advance.
Antwort von Tuffy:
Hi,
MiniDV because what exactly?
If I mountain bike is not governed, that is very rough, and so rather what SD card recording, which is quasi schockresistent not like MiniDV.
The speed is a matter of exposure and aperture, manual control should be (or perhaps at least a "sport" mode, hold).
I might even
Antwort von dirtbiker:
Hello,
I do not want a camcorder with me during the trip can take up but a record of the driver. I felt a camcorder with the fast moving objects or that something is turning faster.
And I would like to edit videos.
Was my mistake had expressed myself wrong;)
Antwort von raymaker:
Then you are looking for but no camcorder, but a decent tripod.
Antwort von dirtbiker:
I have a tripod already but I'm looking for a "good" camcorder
Antwort von dirtbiker:
None Can I recommend a camcorder which we can now accommodate up to 400 ¬ needed can get you with the fast-moving objects can absorb?
Antwort von raymaker:
I'm saying: You need a good tripod, not a camcorder. But if you so ask them: Take a Panasonic CCD model, which fits into your budget. These are the best for panning. CMOS is not as the Brüller. That is the only criterion.
Manual shutter should the price of each model class.
Antwort von Jan:
None Can I recommend a camcorder which we can now accommodate up to 400 ¬ needed can get you with the fast-moving objects can absorb? Here again, the photo people s.Werk, Still Image, in which case nothing to do with videography. When breastfeeding, you can image with a fast shutter freeze objects and people, but video is moving.
You can of course in almost all Panasonic, JVC or Canon models, the manual shutter control (Sony Must often a motive for this program to be), but you will quickly see that at a shutter set too fast, so for example 1 / 2000 sec, every movement looks choppy, so no movement representation (User Mark had the good times explained).
I film with a lot of 1 / 50 sec (the time for our favorite PAL cameras). Oh, I was here and a link for a SonyFX 7 video set, a knight on horseback with full s.mir run over, set 1 / 50 sec - that was s.sich no problem.
Normal fast moving objects can be with any consumer camera. The cameras are working in the field with 50 fields, that is for the ordinary citizen adequate to move. For 25 P HD recordings already sees the matter differently. Theoretically, a MiniDV Camera on the recording the best, because one or other MPEG 2 & 4 Camera slight blurring and artifacts produced. If you think the video magazines, is among the current models of the brand manufacturer only rarely the case.
If the camera on the bike to be mounted, would be a flash memory camera a good idea (Tuffy), if the camera on the surface, then a tripod ever worth its weight in gold, and in which case a MiniDV Camera.
VG
Jan
Antwort von dirtbiker:
Hello and thank you,
I just I have a small question and although it says that the shooting in the woods (where no direct sunlight reigns)
with a 3CCD and 1 / 6 "large sensor (in this case, the Panasonic GS330 VS) is sufficient without the alzu much noise arises?
Antwort von Jan:
Hello --
Just because you are the next problem. You can, under certain circumstances (like the middle of the forest) is not 1 / 200 sec or even 1 / 2000 sec, because otherwise you get a dark picture. Gain Sinnlos drive makes no sense yes.
In daylight it would be possible already. Synonymous me would look at the other opinions of the users are interested in what a shutter with you in 90% of the cases chosen. The Canon HV 30 switches synonymous yes Graufilter a car before, to the Aperture in daylight not very close and the shutter is extremely "up the".
I've learned to stop at that time, of people who earn money, so 1 / 50 to max 1 / 200 sec (of course depending on the situation). My opinion is no law but that it would be synonymous like to hear other opinions.
Mir is no other film has come under the 1 / 8000 sec permanently setting synonymous not quite s.einem "Strong light" day, you should really Graufilter be taken (by the amount of light reducing), so that the aperture in the case is not extremely closes (which then causes Beugungsunschärfen - especially among small sensors with much resolution).
On a normal Tageslichttag I often 1/50-1/100 sec with just over open aperture (ie, depending on the model from 3.5 to 5.6) and Gray ND to 1 or more light ND 2nd In Henkelmann cameras can be adjusted quickly and beautifully.
Once again, to your question, it can be difficult to assess. Depending on the forest glade, or is more or less light is available (you can see it just stop at the first shooting). In the case of the camera to have a look at 1 / 50 sec shutter go Open Aperture and may therefore slightly increase 3-6 DB Gain - the noise should therefore be limited.
The GS 330 can intervene at least good, you can shutter and aperture or manual gain select. You can go with automatic choice when playing synonymous show leave the values - the Camera in the case in the automatic right held.
The GS 330 is expected to be the best device in the price category in weak light. It has no major sensors - holds the second smallest (the smallest of the brand, the company SonySR 35 with 1 / 8 ") but the GS 330 has three of them (1 / 6").
Raymaker tip - you should not ignore synonymous.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... a knight on a horse with full s.mir run over ... And I always thought you so old seist not yet ;-)
... did it stop at that time so gelernt...1/50 to max 1 / 200 sec ... I have no other filmmaker has come under the 1 / 8000 sec permanently set ... Since I can only agree. As a "native" photographer, it was getting started in the video world is a big change for me, now no longer used as the shutter speed as a design tool to be able to use. But I do only "normal" movies and not a single example, evaluations need faster movements, it was in practice never been a problem, the camcorder at the time 1 / 50 as well. The cases where I am because of the very bright lighting conditions short times to times of 1 / 100 or even 1 / 250 is changed, can I, after eight years s.den Video fingers of one hand to count.
... On a normal Tageslichttag I often 1/50-1/100 sec with just over open aperture (ie, depending on the model from 3.5 to 5.6) and Gray ND to 1 or more light 2nd ND .. Just as I do the synonymous, since with such a large aperture forced synonymous with beautiful depth of field can play.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von dirtbiker:
Thank you for all the tips and answers,
Then I wahscheinlich the Panasonic GS330 DV fetch.
Antwort von Jan:
Good decision! - As long as you get it yet - next year it could be close .....
VG
Jan
Antwort von Jan:
I would like to note that a 1 / 120 sec synonymous finds its use.
Zb is the flicker of neon lights and mercury decreases, with a 1 / 50 sec range is still not enough.
VG
Jan
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Hi
Get small aufstellbare "Auto" headlights with leds hand.
Styropur or better yet sity bare Light Bouncer (reflector mats)
Distribute the example below the table s (hill with flat top) - or - side s.der route.
The pockets on the headlight Light Bouncer addressed.
Bring VERY MUCH, especially in forest or early evening.
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So the closer you s.Track Camera (path a MTB rider goes down) are (especially in corners), so unclean wedern movements / pans.
Optimum are 3-5-meter wide and good.
Cheers & Ride Safe
B. DeKid
