Frage von wertedt:
Hello, I hope you can help me.
I'm looking for a camcorder in a Resolutionvon uncompressed 1920 x 1080 pixels on a hard drive or memory card aufzeichnet.Kennt her one or more models that can?
Antwort von grovel:
You are aware already that you are with uncompressed files in this format have to expect good 7.8MB per frame, that is good 190 MB per second - a 1GB memory card full of seconds would not even say after 6th Completely aside from that) no memory card (or hard disk can handle this data rate.
But yes, those cameras gibts. However, you have to use a RAID memory system, or (more realistic), a small RAID server with you rumtragen. Furthermore, your wallet should be fairly thick.
An example could be the RED camera, which will be presented in a week s.der NAB:
http://red.com/
A little Introduction about the possibilities can be found here:
http://forum.slashcam.de/viewtopic.php?p=118970 # 118,970
SeeYa grovel
Antwort von Axel:
I'm looking for a camcorder in a Resolutionvon capturing uncompressed 1920 x 1080 pixels on a hard drive or memory card. You are better off in any case, rent a 35mm film camera (or even to
buy? Devices that meet modern needs, there are over 30 years!). The digitalization of the analogue film (in lesser Resolutionzum cut s.einem normal sized calculator) is cheaper than alone (the average rent for this format let alone the
purchase of the necessary processing hardware), and - through 6k resolution - better in quality. This workflow is now the standard in the film industry, the copying works are set out.
Quote from: "Dr Kay Hoffmann: The digitization of the cinema"
http://www.medientage-muenchen.de/archiv/1999-2000/hoffmann.pdf
During the actual rotation is at least on large feature films today, the movie recording
Celluloid is the rule. Film is an international standard and the cameraman has by
different film speeds a much wider range s.Gestaltung. Added
is that Hollywood is very conservative in terms of technology. However, were with the new
electronic 24p digital camera and some films will be rotated after excerpts from
the first completely electronic film to see. Recalls that while s.The discussions
the high-resolution HDTV High Definition Television in the 80s, so synonymous with the number of
Movies with all-star cast has been rotated and the technology still does not prevail
could. For all the fascination with Michael Ballhaus called in an interview a few drawbacks
Electronic Camera: "What can not the digital camera? It is not yet high speed.
Just look at movies today, which will work because with high speed! I have in my
last film shot in there with 4000 images per second, rotated. This can digital
Camera still a long shot. Addition, there is something: The resilience of a film camera is
still much higher. When I consider that Wolfgang Petersen's "Storm" digital
would have rotated, with the water masses that were there - that you can imagine is impossible.
The cameras are a little wet, and spin electronics, the cameras are a little
too hot or too cold, and spin electronics. This we know: today's Cameras
have an amazing stability and reliability, the digital still far from
have to be. " Even if the new "Star Wars" episode will also be digitally rotated
will, it seems to be some years before the feature film production worthy of Hollywood on
the electronic switching over.
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Antwort von werdedt:
But it still needs to be a camcorder recording of a Resolutionvon 1920x1080 pixels, but I've heard that if one takes a DV tape, the compression would be too great and I with a Wolte arbeiten.Die hard drive compression should not even be O% but less than in a Dv Camera. Is there such a not?
Antwort von jbone:
1980 * 1080 if you want it uncompressed, it's called HD.
There are cameras that offer d ie HD, for example, the Canon XL H1 HDV camera has an HDMI output, where it is possible to tap the uncompressed data. Of course then one needs a different external memory.
Then there is the new Panasonic HVX 200, a really great device. Diue really no or little compressed and is stored on P2 cards with 8 GB. One extends for about 5min. Not for the amateur filmmakers before.
In the HC 3, I have trimmed synonymous.
Actually stood at videofilmen (magazines):
To begin with the HC3, the digital integrated HDMI output. He serves as an interface for transferring audio data un vonunkomprimierten Picture-in HD quality and is ready for direct connection s.HD-capable devices.
Antwort von Fargonaut:
To begin with the HC3, the digital integrated HDMI output. He serves as an interface for transferring audio data un vonunkomprimierten Picture-in HD quality and is ready for direct connection s.HD-capable devices. That is was technically correct, but these data will be extracted to the compression and then sent uncompressed via HDMI. I do not think that the HC3, the signal can be looped through output uncompressed s.diesen ..
(But would cool if Sony, this feature (which would be installed relatively easily have that will implement).)
Antwort von PowerMac:
But it still needs to be a camcorder recording of a Resolutionvon 1920x1080 pixels, but I've heard that if one takes a DV tape, the compression would be too great and I with a Wolte arbeiten.Die hard drive compression should not even be O% but less than in a Dv Camera. Is there such a not? Sounds to me very strongly of troll ...
Antwort von mR rheinh:
Clearly, the HD, but there are still synonymous 1280 xl 720 pixels, and I believe most cameras only to sign on 720i and not in 1080i. But there must still synonymous camcorder to record in 1080i and a lower compression than DV, but that's the size is still acceptable and does not degenerate, and recording onto a hard drive? Moreover, as we will bring the video on the PC when the camcorder only has an HDMI output? Or he has an additional Firewire? And as the camcorder with the Festpaltten it already is, there is the File a Mpeg 2 file or Avi file. Avi would be bigger but better!
Antwort von wolfgang:
Is that a rate-thread?
Today's HDV (HD does not draw) devices on either HDV1 (= 720 25p or 720 30p, with 1280x720 pixels) or HDV2 (= 1080 50i or 1080 60i, with 1440x1080 pixels).
On the PC via firewire to get the will which is a HC1, FX1 and HD101 have a safe synonymous HC3.
True HD cameras gibts - but it probably cost around 30,000 euros upwards ...
Antwort von karma:
Enjoy your meal!
The HC3 of Sonyzeichnet synonymous but only on a MiniDV cassette. that is, the video streams are still quite strong komprimiert.Also synonymous not the ideal for the INTERMEDIATE. Sure, it is highly compressed HD but stop and so synonymous clearly visible. This is because the DV cassette is already fully utilized with regard to their memory.
Antwort von werdedt:
I am looking synonymous nen camcorder to record onto a DV cassette, but not to an external FireWire hard drive and in the 1080i?
Antwort von Axel:
I am looking synonymous nen camcorder to record onto a DV cassette, but not to an external FireWire hard drive and in the 1080i? For example, the mention of the Panasonic HVX200 with Firestore FS-100, together, unfortunately, something to the 8000 Kracher. But who is so demanding of time saved because no longer want to capture, is probably a pro. After all, the camera is still priced below the Canon HX-1. The argument that the Pana does not count doubled 540 pixels (chip) per pixel shift, while the Canon "uncompressed" HD analog outputs. The compressed data were
synonymous, namely as HDV on the tape. It would be correct to say that when capturing the video (like on a huge video card??) Kindly de-compressed
on the fly is. Is this window dressing, or because I understand what miss?
Antwort von Archimedes:
There is the possibility depart ripe, the data directly to the CCDs and the A / D converter, uncompressed, of course. In addition, the camera needs to be modified accordingly. The system is called Andromeda. Is currently supported only the Panasonic DVX100 camcorder. Support for other camcorder is in principle possible. The DVX100 offers per pixel shift, however, synonymous only 1540x990 sA / D converter. Incidentally, was used as an interface USB 2.0.
Antwort von Büchsenwerfer:
Hello!
The video data is tied to DV if they are written so strongly compressed that they fit on the band. To achieve a lower compression to a digital band must either take the offer more space than a Mini DV band. I do not know, it tied the einsolches Digital exist. So you must save the data NEdit as an AVI file on a hard drive. I think: will Find some of the camcorder records in 1080i and the lower compression than a DV tape. But it is difficult to find a camcorder that records on the 1080i and a built-in or external hard drive in a lower compression than DV!
Unfortunately, I do not know. Her?
Antwort von PowerMac:
There are dozens of ...
Antwort von Büchsenwerfer:
For example ...
Antwort von PowerMac:
Grass Valley, Sony, Panasonic, Arri, Red
a little google help
Antwort von Daniel_23:
So I think either of us wants to make fun of someone or do not know what he's talking!
"... But I've heard that if you have a DV tape takes the compression would be too great, and since I work with Wolte a hard drive ..."
So if one has no plan, and such a Resolutionauch uncompressed still ask myself what I want!
So: first the question of what you want? Why uncompressed?
Antwort von PowerMac:
This is a troll of the series "I want 5000 hp for my golf."
Antwort von Gast1:
This is a troll of the series "I want 5000 hp for my golf." Exactly. The Camera is looking more like a professional camera for ENG, as Wolfgang said, cost a few shillings more than our best pieces.
Those who are interested hardly ask in this forum.
If someone would so watch a little time (is there in a few years synonymous) in the amateur:
http://www.sonybiz.net/
http://www.panasonic.com/business/provideo/app_hd.asp
Thomson Brandt synonymous something.
The wertedt certainly be happy to send a salesman into the house.
Antwort von PowerMac:
But it still needs to be a camcorder recording of a Resolutionvon 1920x1080 pixels, but I've heard that if one takes a DV tape, the compression would be too great and I with a Wolte arbeiten.Die hard drive compression should not even be O% but less than in a Dv Camera. Is there such a not? alone, the ...;)
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Antwort von prem:
It's all sweet with the trolls, sometimes ...
But apart from that, the tip of Axel was not so wrong to shoot at such claims on film. And in the Super16 segment, there are one or the other 'bargain' with the corresponding disadvantages ...
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Antwort von prem:
I'm looking for a camcorder in a Resolutionvon uncompressed 1920 x 1080 pixels on a hard drive or memory card aufzeichnet.Kennt her one or more models that can? Wow!
Look for
HDCAM and HDCAM / SR products.
Or
Thomson Viper Camera Head with 9.2 million pixel HD-DPM sensor
The Viper Film Stream Camera transmits the CCD output signals via a 10-bit data stream film, using a dual HD-SDI output.
Full Resolutionwird achieved: true progressive 1920 x 1080 pixels for each color.
No Chroma subsampling, color space conversion, irreversible video manipulation, compression and other quantizations.
The Viper Film Stream Camera is based on the unique 9.2 megapixel CCD of the permits to operate in the following formats:
1080 lines with full pictures 24/25/30
720 lines with full pictures 24/25/30/50/60.
In the 720-line mode with 60 frames per second can be achieved with many post-processing systems with variable speed slow motion effects.
+ Hard disk recorder: S.two DFR RGB - HDTV Portable Recorder - 24VDC Multiple control surfaces including camera trigger and tally
* HD, HD RGB, 2K and beyond
* Records to native DPX file format
* Multiple monitoring outputs for both video and audio
* Rugged, robust and reliable, ship or use anywhere
* Full metadata gathering and recording capability including LTC, RP188 and RP215
* Dual Gigabit Ethernet standard, wireless network option
* 24V DC operation - S.two Battery or AC adapter, two inputs so you do not have to stop
This is exactly that what you're looking for!
Bescheid tell me if the project starts, I'm here as a helper!
Antwort von xtenchsoft:
It is synonymous cheaper.
Just buy it and Hc3 with HDMI on any PC / Notebook with live capture any program that it supports high data rates.
Or XLH1 with SDI.
Both uncompressed and certainly better than MiniDV.
Hope I was able to close the topic now
Antwort von Phyro-Mane:
That is was technically correct, but these data will be extracted to the compression and then sent uncompressed via HDMI. I do not think that the HC3, the signal can be looped through output uncompressed s.diesen ..
(But would cool if Sony, this feature (which would be installed relatively easily have that will implement).) It is synonymous cheaper.
Just buy it and Hc3 with HDMI on any PC / Notebook with live capture any program that it supports high data rates.
Or XLH1 with SDI.
Both uncompressed and certainly better than MiniDV.
Hope I was able to close the topic now is hard to read ...
Antwort von xtenchsoft:
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