Frage von snoeren:
Hello Forum,
my employer has with a s.mich please approached, but s.Wochenende a conference to be recorded on film. That is not the first and last event should be, we will now, on occasion, buy your own equipment. Since I am moving in the area but at the moment is not up to date am I need your help.
Filming will be:
Speakers and interviews primarily in enclosed spaces (keyword Lichstärke). The sound is from external sources such as Microphone or house plant come.
Published on:
Primary Video Podcast similar resolution for integration into the company's own website. Possibly. is a planned release on DVD.
Budget:
about 1000 ¬ (plus Microphone, Cable and tripod)
The format is my choice at the moment is still with the miniDV Pal format s.sympatischsten. Especially since no one spoke in HD will look ;-)
I had the cameras in the Panasonic GS500EG even closer views. The only shortcoming is the lack of MMN headphone output. :-( Are there any alternative in this segment and this quality?
When choosing the tripod I have my name on Page Velbon times laid. What should I do for ordinary Microphone reckon?
Thank you for your quick help.
Love Greetings, Sören
Antwort von Markus:
What should I do for ordinary Microphone reckon? Hi Soren,
a decent microphone for recording a speaker would have been for about 40 EUR (for example
Sennheiser e815), doch da die GS500 nur einen consumer-typischen, unsymmetrischen Klinkeneingang hat, wäre synonymous noch ein XLR -Adapters (z.B. of
BeachTek) necessary to the microphone signal free of interference symmetrically via XLR cables to your camcorder to lead. The XLR adapter is between camcorder and tripod mounted.
Antwort von snoeren:
Thanks for the XLR notice. At the moment I am working as a simple solution of Sennheiser 300 angetan. However, I have just asked what I do when the sound was not coming from the microphone, but through the house system will be interspersed? Then I need to use a XLR adapter or? There would therefore offer completely in this way the system by then not have to look after
As it looks right now are on the market not comparable to the Panasonic Camera 500!? Or would someone have a very hot tip for me? What if you have the budget to increase it about 1500? Would you then proper ways to regulate the in / outputs obtained? Which cameras are there?
Thanks and regards, Sören
Antwort von K.-D. Schmidt:
For conferences and events, as you describe it, is much better to use a big camera like the JVC GY DV5000 similar or synonymous SonyDSR200/250
This will allow you synonymous up to 4.5 hours s.Stück record, without the tape each time. Furthermore, these cameras semi XLR inputs for Micro-Line and many more times and quite apart from the fact that such a camera in the conference better "makes" as a consumer camera.
Since your boss should be a little more time to invest (since it costs so probably can sell). If something more is planned and synonymous still be offered on DVD, is nothing worse than miserable quality. It will probably eventually synonymous advertising for the company.
Greeting
KDS
Antwort von Markus:
... is much better to use a big camera like the JVC GY DV5000 similar or synonymous SonyDSR200/250 They are very far away from the desired budget and for the required image quality synonymous only secondary. Since I find the themes camera work, lighting and sound quality is important.
@ Soeren: A bad Microphone close is better than a good Microphone far away of the sound source. A directional microphone during a speech is not optimal.
Various microphones as the sound bite:
Distance of the camera to the lectern was about 6 meters
Antwort von snoeren:
Super thanks for the tips.
After a long search has / had the budget to approximately ¬ 2000 to be increased. At the moment I float the following solutions:
1. Panasonic 500 + Zoom H4 (sound of house system is introduced, then a Microphone on lectern)
or
2. Canon XM2 + external microphone (lectern)
Am aware that the first solution is expensive and complicated. Since we are anyway, but the purchase of a hard disk recorder for podcasts and the like plan would offer this combination almost. Cameras of over 2000 ¬ it seems to me that for the purpose of overkill. But KDS has already if he thinks that the big professional cameras across ;-)
What do you of the proposed solutions? Do I have any built-in reasoning? If ever the sound sense of the house system off, or should we have our own mic?
A friend told me yesterday, the Council, but the times HDV device synonymous to consider, as the quality jumps but were enormously. However, I believe that the proposed price range, none of the available cameras, the optics of the Panasonic 500 toppen, or deceived me? Moreover, I see a problem in cutting the material because of the compression (key frames) and the higher traffic.
Time is running slowly and which is approaching the weekend ;-)
Best regards, Sören
Antwort von snoeren:
What do you think of the following proposal:
- Panasonic GS500 (SD since publication on the Web and on DVD, full-25p)
- Zoom H4 (48 kHz recording, audio podcast, Internal Mic)
- XLR Microphone (???)
- Sennheiser MKE 300 (If time does not house system is available)
Do you have microphones on the NEN tip and what do you think of my collection? (Somehow, I still need someone to abnickt times ;-))
Thanks, Sören
Antwort von Markus:
Hi Soren,
if you decide to want to GS500, I would XLR adapter of BeachTek to take. This would XLR connections available and you could connect both external microphones as synonymous hook the sound without the cable length and the associated interference in particular, respect and need. That would be an alternative to a mobile audio recorder H4, where all images synchronously on the same device to be.
A separate Microphone always makes sense when you are on the house system or the operator does not leave the same can / should / want. The additional funding Microphone is not significant enough and XLR cables you need one way or another.
Exception: The speaker is not constantly s.einem desk, but moves during the presentation. The sound transmission is then transmitted by radio, so you can connect the sound, if you do not wish to bring their own receivers. Even that would of course be possible with the H4. The only question is who uses the audio recorder, if it is not close s.Camcorders placed / can be.
The price limit of ¬ 2,000 should thus not yet exceeded his. If the recording professional look, would be the Canon XM2 possibly together with the MA300 XLR adapter and a professional video tripod Manfrotto 525 à la worth a consideration, but this equipment would be above the targeted ceiling.
Have you considered times, the recording of external carried out? Just for trial balloons s.Anfang might be interesting and it can equally be sure that the truly professional recording synonymous (look) is.
Antwort von snoeren:
Hi Markus,
Thank you for your answers. Must say you are a diligent and useful hack, on responses from your pen, I stumble into almost any topic. Respect udn Thanks!
XLR adapter of BeachTek to take. ... That would be an alternative to a mobile audio recorder H4, where all images synchronously on the same device to be.
I wonder about at the moment synonymous. Synchronous on a device or not, that we have an external device such as the H4 will get is clear, then my opinion would be synonymous to offer the sound directly incorporated. Micro Camera s.der, whether internally or Sennheiser for Ambient I could use if the Sennheiser synonymous rather only for the direction to be used. Advantage in the solution would be that the Camera synonymous times of an inexperienced staff without the H4 can be used.
The additional funding Microphone is not significant enough and XLR cables you need one way or another. External Microphone must in any case. Are there any recommendations for voice recordings (speaker) and a simple second for Ambient Micro. Of course I will still need enough cable.
Have you considered times, the recording of external carried out? Just for trial balloons s.Anfang might be interesting and it can equally be sure that the truly professional recording synonymous (look) is. Yes, we have, but since we are not in the professional field move I actually thought that we Leihkosten for Camera and staff prefer the equipment mitinvestieren equal, since the purchases will be made definitely.
Cheers, Sören
Antwort von Markus:
Must say you are a diligent and useful hack ... There are mixed opinions sometimes very far apart, but I want your opinion rather than the so many anonymous guest. Thanks for the praise. :-)
... that we have an external device such as the H4 will get is certain ... In this case I would just try it and see if the audio recorder in the planned use. If so, must be next to nothing XLR camcorder to be purchased.
Advantage in the solution would be that the Camera synonymous times of an inexperienced staff without the H4 can be used. A camera in someone's hand to press, which is not (enough) know, is almost always wrong. If you desire, you create a list with times popular beginner mistakes. It can be the conditions and if necessary training content for recording those speeches derived. That sounds very DIN ISO 9001, but so will ensure that not a simple but effective errors to the total impracticality of any footage (such as extremely wrong white balance, aperture value, image, lighting, etc.).
[external microphone] Is there any recommendations for voice recordings (speaker) and a simple second for Ambient Micro. As for voice recordings look in my posting of gestiges clock 14:11. ;-)
The atmosphere is not as critical and whose Recording must not necessarily synonymous done in stereo. And here synonymous of H4 (the built-in stereo microphone) would be interesting if he had not been for the recording of the speaker in use.
The camcorder microphone would be greatest only in emergency use, since all synonymous drive, Zoom-and noise control with be included. A directional microphone mounted, however, could be synonymous to the audience to orient, possibly on a separate microphone. However, the first spectator dransitzen not too close, because otherwise these people very well out would listen.
Antwort von snoeren:
In this case I would just try it and see if the audio recorder in the planned use. If so, must be next to nothing XLR camcorder to be purchased. Ok, so I will be souvenirs.
As for voice recordings look in my posting of gestiges clock 14:11. ;-)
Yeah, I read, but is it of you recommended Microphone e815 synonymous indoors in small spaces, such as podcasting, interview useful and meaningful situation?
Because I now savvy, that the Canon HV20 as synonymous of the other HDV cameras a DV stream can spend, I think about at the moment whether you are not going to be HDV switch. To the detriment of the HV20 because of the one chip, however, stronger disturbance in dark areas. In addition, the lens is not as strong light, which because of the conference indoor situation but would be important to me. Please correct me if what I did wrong ausgeschnappt.
How would you decide? (The thread GS500 against HV20 is well known to me, could I do for my requirements are not really next to help)
Best regards, Sören
Antwort von MadEyedMoose:
What are actually the differences in the XLR adapter?
Which is convenient to recommend? More than 2 Mics do not need to be connected, actually only 1st ..
Antwort von MadEyedMoose:
and where do you get in Germany?
Antwort von MadEyedMoose:
XLR adapter (for example, of BeachTek ) nötig, um das Mikrofonsignal frei of Einstreuungen symmetrisch via XLR -Kabel zum Camcorders zu führen. Der XLR -Adapters wird zwischen Tripod and Camcorders montiert.Ein XLR Adapters with nur einem XLR Anschluss ist mir bis dahin noch nicht untergekommen, macht meiner Meinung nach synonymous keinen Sinn, da eines der Hauptfeatures flöten gehen würde = 1 (Mono)Microphone pro Soundtrack, also 2 Mikrofone möglich.
Ansonsten schau dir mal diesen Link an:
3.5 XLR adapter jack: Beachtek versus Profilmgear @ Mark: What can you have in terms of image quality GS500 against HV20 note? I know the comparison limps, but worth the Down Sample of HVD on SD? Or should I rather than to draw great GS500? What does for the rest of the Forum?
Cheers, Sören
Antwort von snoeren:
Oops, there I was actually just not logged. Now I am back.
XLR Adapters synonymous find on eBay from the U.S. or in group 3 in Munich. Kleiner Tip: Google is powerful! :-)
Best regards, Sören
Antwort von Markus:
... of you is the recommended Microphone e815 synonymous indoors in small spaces, such as podcasting, interview useful and meaningful situation? The Sennheiser e series is designed for vocal and Language, ie, the e815 is good for interviews (synonymous in noisy environments). It is important that the Microphone is kept properly, since it is only in near field its full effect. This concerns the way, all dynamic microphones of this kind
For the greatest need is a Microphone synonymous for Atmo-abuse images. The level is relatively low, however, unless in very noisy environments.
What you can because in terms of image quality GS500 against HV20 note? I can not incidentally, because I did not target the camcorder know from personal experience.
Antwort von SToe:
Hm, the VX16000 for about ¬ 30,000 should be just for rich. Although faith, because more work needs to be saved but ok ...
