Newsmeldung von slashCAM: Camera flights with the remote control helicopters of rob - 15 Nov 2006 14:56:00 Draganfly means and the thing is a kind of remote control helicopters inclusive, with the camera without humanly occupied flights helicopter can be rotated. Who says so a flying kit itself to be able to tinker, it must be synonymous to stabilize else, according to good works. Besispiel videos are available from the manufacturer to see. Have fun tinkering ...
Antwort von BuddyLove:
My enthusiasm changed abruptly when I saw the price ...
http://www.rctoys.com/rc-toys-and-parts/DF-SAVS/RC-HELICOPTERS-DRAGANFLYER-SAVS.html
There would, in fact, just tinker myself in question, but if I do that would only s.jüngsten days apart, when the Angels play the trombone. A pity really, is ne nice idea.
Antwort von Markus:
My enthusiasm changed abruptly when I saw the price ... And I had a five-expected amount! - With this expectation, the price is favorable, is not it? ;-)
Antwort von Teutobod:
My enthusiasm changed abruptly when I saw the price ...
And I had a five-expected amount! - With this expectation, the price is favorable, is not it? ;-) Well, Mark, since you can invest! You buy yourself, say times 10 such parts and landlord. Would not otherwise have you already ... and everything in a 5-digit area synonymous wert thou!
Antwort von Johannes:
looks very nice but how long can the flying part.
Not to think from whom the fuel over a water
originates.
Antwort von axel.schultze@t-online.de:
Model helicopters are due to their low mass hypersensitive in their flight behavior. Anything with a fixed video camera was filmed so you can forget the outset of a single disaster shaky.
Were times as a test video of a real Fernsteuerprofis, the hamburger with a pair of brothers whose gigantic railway investment was filmed. A joke on the square!
Antwort von dada:
the spiral described above, there are alternatives.
http://www.xufo-shop.de/sess/utn;jsessionid=15455c3f3e6f0d0/shopdata/index.shopscript
then a purely funkkameraystem of ebay and have fun.
of course, is the qualified of the 420 TVL camera but not who it goes .....
the helisache is such a thing, there is reasonable built with stift ccd cameras, as well as the synonymous mounted a camcorder ..
(hh the two were amateurs)
my old chef has flown himself gasoline and a hochkantmini (PC100) in the heli built, which in turn was controlled via servos and thus the camera could move.
but the fact gasoline is already expensive.
but there are motivated model clubs that try something like ....
Antwort von Nicht eingeloggt:
Model helicopters are due to their low mass hypersensitive in their flight behavior. Anything with a fixed video camera was filmed so you can forget the outset of a single disaster shaky! This reminds me of "Heaven" by Tom Tykwer, which rides over the Tuscan countryside. There is in the
making of the description of a device for decoupling of the helicopter vibrations, which are synonymous with a
full-scale helicopters are a problem, whether with film or video is recorded. The crux is the "fixed". Once a shoulder camera is used, helicopter shots are usable. It would be a suspension similar to a microphone Suspension spider. What think?
Antwort von dada:
or an honest Gimbals ...
Antwort von axel.schultze@t-online.de:
For real Helis there is stabilized remote camera platforms, which cost a fortune. The really make perfect pictures. I would be very surprised if equivalent with any kind of synonymous as remote-controlled device was possible.
Antwort von axel.schultze@t-online.de:
yes you should be synonymous not compare apples with pears ...
naturally reached the non-qualified, with no preference whatever device ....
Antwort von Markus:
Would not, otherwise you have already everything ... This impression is deceptive tremendous. ;-)
Model helicopters are due to their low mass hypersensitive in their flight behavior. This is true even synonymous helicopter. Depending on the wind and can be as pilot (without stabilization systems) are not good films. ... But everything was already written. ;-)
Antwort von Mephisto345:
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Dragan flyer but have been known for years. I have the times a year by the American Suchrobbot ebay observed, sometimes went quite favorably weg ... I habs but left an auction, because many Americans are querstellen, somewhere outside the U.S. and was added to send a customs officer übereifiger evt top of the "correct" prices ergooglet, and then there's discussion again ....
Despite the Stabbis can probably synonymous bad break, have some for sale geschrottete seen, for some, according to the seller's already on the maiden flight happened :-)))))
M.
Antwort von axel.schultze@t-online.de:
yes you should be synonymous not compare apples with pears ...
naturally reached the non-qualified, with no preference whatever device .... Yes I compare apples with pears, both are edible, but lousy resolution and shaky images of total radio-controlled light aircraft eder ever in a video forum just to mention is a mortal sin
Antwort von SammyGray:
yes you should be synonymous not compare apples with pears ...
naturally reached the non-qualified, with no preference whatever device ....
Yes I compare apples with pears, both are edible, but lousy resolution and shaky images of total radio-controlled light aircraft eder ever in a video forum just to mention is a mortal sin then skip this thread ... easy!
I find it totally jedenfall interesting!
Also a lot is possible ....
it comes only on the correct implementation of!
Antwort von Markus:
404ERR
Antwort von Nio:
Liebe Grüße
Modellbau-Markus :-) synonymous nor models :-)
I have with with 10 years (maybe synonymous 11) such a time of hand Aufziebaren helicopters purchased. The maiden landing kaputgegangen. So I returned the thing and he is at home again kaputgegangen. I do not remember how often, but I have 5 times the guaranteed return.
I buy me a part-interest-troz not, the risk is too high, because what goes kaput.
And aerial photographs synonymous, I can well make out the window - 6 Floor.
Antwort von Markus:
...- 6 Floor. What you see as the Cons sixth floor (basement floor = 6)? ;-)
Antwort von SammyGray:
...- 6 Floor.
What you see as the Cons sixth floor (basement floor = 6)? ;-) Just to make the window;)
Antwort von Pillermännchen:
Or practice:
29,95 EUR at Amazon
Power mood already
Antwort von tvJunkie:
Anyone with a xbelibigen other pilots may wish to try a set for us to rent!
Wireless Camera + Receiver + Reichw. Verla. + Recorder + Voltage Converters> Funkkameraverleih.de <
only have to install it yourself already, we have a spec. Amplifier to reach up to 300 m. Flies a VHS recorder for the car with the recipient, it may be synonymous above the car overnight to be spec. Observation up to 10Std. in real time (only power they must be done separately, after about 5ST. is the Autobatt. empty!
On questions answered is synonymous
mfg
tvJunkie
Antwort von husky-holger:
I see that some of you skeptical of the quality are due.
Since I myself for aerial photographs of my model helicopter interested, I created in November synonymous built a suitable frame to my reflex and in the future, synonymous with a camcorder mounted on a helicopter can.
In this version is only controlled the shutter of the camera remotely, as I have a small wireless camera installed to the camera view from the helicopter more accurately.
zum Bild But True: The problem is the high-frequency oscillations, but the man through a specially designed sprung suspension can absorb.
Here are some links to the professionals of the model helicopter Film Industry:
http://www.flying-cam.com/fset.html : Modellhubschrauberanwendung bei Harry Potter, James Bond, Mission Impossible, and mehr. Mit Making of...
http://www.helicamsolutions.com/: Particularly recommended is the film about Offroad, filmed with two model helicopters.
The cameras are s.diesen advanced racks usually 360 ° swivel, including Tilt and Pan, and on all axes gyro.
In addition to the pilot (or two pilots synonymous), a camera operator needs.
Check out the links at times, making the OFS are really very impressive.
Many greetings from Sweden
Holger
Antwort von rtzbild:
Aloha,
I had a few years ago synonymous times before, at a time when "high tripod" with remote-Cam has not been used as ...
According to the statement of
Antwort von rtzbild:
The here is probably synonymous already tried:
http://vundf.com/PDFs/Aero-Tec.pdf
Olli
Antwort von husky-holger:
@ Olli
Hello,
cheap model helicopter is not ;-)
Remember when you order: The smaller the Heliopter, the more sensitive, the less additional load. For the very small, synonymous with the big C are available, you sometimes have problems a training ring to attach.
Only times for testing, there is unfortunately no model helicopters. which always ends in crash, an empty purse, frustrations and especially extreme discrepancies with the wife ...
Under the link that you've posted, but are synonymous Prices proud required. The camera frame is not exactly a special design.
Nevertheless: Consider that the model helicopter according to the same laws work, how big their role models. The mechanics is only small and extreme vibration, wear and forces (blade tip speed to 450 km / h). In the wrong hands and place s.falschen are actually flying sickles.
When I look at the making OFS times had, I have very many ideas on how to create a model helicopter for Special effects can be used. The course and the flying challenge irritate me immensely.
Many greetings
Holer
Antwort von rtzbild:
Hello Holger,
I give you in all the right score.
Thus, it is.
Unfortunately akktuell me the money, "just" a few hundred dollars in an experimental model to invest or "just" a workshop to attend.
Therefore, what does it synonymous favorable, a toy.
When I'm finished, isses either broken, or my Juniores get to play it occasionally.
Otherwise, a Videoheli already contributed at least one miniDV. Whether I, however, a Panasonic AG-DVX 100 AU dranhänge, I venture to bedreifeln.
BTW: Beautiful husky side, I imagine it with a very romantic with you before.
White Christmas; o)
LG Olli
Antwort von mentao:
Is that because its urgent need for a helicopter?
To my "active" period of gabs Graupner NEN Flieger, which is a Camera reinbaun below, is definitely easier to fly Heli ALSN & I do not believe that the vibrations are so strong ...
The payload was already 3 oda 4 pounds!
Helifliegen is always of the High School ... & This towing aircraft can fly slower than you might expect ...
VLG
Antwort von rtzbild:
Aloha,
of "urgent need" can be no question, but documentation is sometimes better with aircraft _stehendem_ film, as with moving.
OK, aerial photographs are breathtaking beautiful, sometimes shots are possible, only a well trained (aerobatics)-pilot-how, but the allure is partly synonymous in the short start-and landing paths, the partial "stationary" picture and just the charm of mänövrierens ...
BTW: A Heli _kann_ not usually crash, he can rotate the rotor and gently landed.
An engine pilots, however, generally very poor glide (also loaded), they sink without engine power through.
A glider has only one turn _sehr begrenzte_ load, therefore, not capable of transporting the load.
HTH
Rated 'doch mal name, which was because of a Graupner-towing plane?
( "Dragging" does not auto load transport!)
Olli
Antwort von tofuSCHNITZEL:
The model then was called Robin, if I remember!
Hab grade shortly gegoogelt, aba nixmehr about this place ..
It was thus the strongest model, a tug at the same time was prepared for camera installation (actually yes Photo camera, below s.Rumpf open ..) Should be easy, however, a comparable model to find!
With aerobatic skills has yet to do nothing! In aerobatics gibts fully balanced profile, since one has to fit! By nem halbsymmetrischen surface profile (while keeping a broader area) can be a remarkably simple but steer! Really-fast-as he would stand in the air wien Heli ...
& In his engine failure it is simply synonymous net down wien stone, but then sailed halt - which normally should be sufficient for landing ... ;)
VLG
Antwort von rtzbild:
With aerobatic skills has yet to do nothing! In aerobatics gibts fully balanced profile, since one has to fit! By nem halbsymmetrischen surface profile (while keeping a broader area) can be a remarkably simple but steer! Really-fast-as he would stand in the air wien Heli ...
& In his engine failure it is simply synonymous net down wien stone, but then sailed halt - which normally should be sufficient for landing ... ;)
VLG Thanks for the explanation.
With "aerobatics" said I actually is not the synonymous model, but RL.
So nosedive and just above the ground again hochuziehen THE dares not everyone ... especially not a glider, o) =)
"Sailing halt": Have engine models such as good gliding?
Olli
Antwort von rtzbild:
Beautiful "Making OFS" air recordings
http://www.rctoys.com/Merchant2/videos/DF-SAVS_7.jpg
Endgeil, auc IMHO is a PD-170 here.
LG Olli
Antwort von husky-holger:
Hello together,
clearly does Filmerei synonymous with area pilots.
The difference:
Area pilots must move in the air.
There are no stationary pans, slow shots and sudden accelerations possible.
If you times before:
With the helicopter filming us at eye level a fly-fishing, which omits the throw line. Helicopter position right behind the fly fisher, stationary. Angle so that the front-and back movements of the Schnurauslassens will be filmed.
At the moment in which the shearing of the fishermen to throw to the front throws, followed by the string Helicam stops s.and filming close-up as in the fly slowly sets over the water. Then a spiral climb, with the camera on the fly is addressed.
From the imagination but with a little practice and arrangement feasible.
Tries times with the conventional means of film.
Not without reason was James Bond, Harry Potter, Mission Impossible, and John Derr and and synonymous with the Helicam filmed.
With an area fliers such things are not doable.
Furthermore, a start-and landing is required.
Mounting the Camera brings complications, especially if it is not a cheap 2.4 GHz wireless camera to act.
Also you can see in the picture the propeller, the speed changes through the unpleasant pattern in Picture causes.
Another, simpler example:
A person stands on the top of a cliff, will be filmed again at eye level of the back to the wide view over the mountains and valleys to be included. Person obviously in Picture.
Helicam takes slow ride to and flies past s.dieser person, with the camera on the person remains and pans. Suddenly one sees the person in front of the fantastic and the background.
That is crazy that the "cameraman" now free to float over a deep chasm is ....
There are unimagined possibilities when the imagination can play something.
The Helifoil under the link of Olli is actually quite easy to fly, since he spent four rotors has. Thus, no torque compensation by a tail rotor necessary. This is actually more a kind of plane that can hover synonymous. Unfortunately, the load is very low. A digital Sonyzu mount is as unlikely to come into question. This provides one example of synonymous s.den videos: Significantly are distortions, vibrations and camera shake and Rucker to see.
In this system, it is not a gyro.
Nevertheless, it is very interesting.
If you are interested, I can a lot of links to this post topics, including forums, Manufacturer, and Sollutions.
Many greetings
Holger
Antwort von rtzbild:
Husky Hello Holger,
I have unfortunately only the opening image posted here is
der richtige LinkDie Billigvariante heißt "X-Ufo", http://www.xufo-shop.de,
Google knows more ... Today an experimental basis a model helicopter flown, with the camera is to be mounted.
Sample images here: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200057324341
But have found that a small pitch heli
without greatly windempfindlich and thus loss is threatened, dog and today I had a few in the bushes then browse, o)
So another test: An X-UFO must.
Only: This thing has barely load, moreover, I do not really find information on mounted cameras.
Moreover, I am still waiting for answers regarding my question of "image" of the abundance offered 2.4 GHz Pinhole FunkCam.
Under
www.rcuvideos.com
The problem is only the investment, coupled with the ever-possible total loss ...
Gruß Olli
Antwort von rtzbild:
Husky Hello Holger,
I have unfortunately only the opening image posted here is der richtige Link
Die Billigvariante heißt "X-Ufo", http://www.xufo-shop.de, Google knows more ...
Today an experimental basis a model helicopter flown, with the camera is to be mounted.
Sample images here:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200057324341
But have found that a small pitch heli without greatly windempfindlich and thus loss is threatened, dog and today I had a few in the bushes then browse, o)
So another test: An X-UFO must.
Only: This thing has barely load, moreover, I do not really find information on mounted cameras.
Moreover, I am still waiting for answers regarding my question of "image" of the abundance offered 2.4 GHz Pinhole FunkCam.
Under www.rcuvideos.com found some aerial photos of flying machines.
The problem is only the investment, coupled with the ever-possible total loss ...
Gruß Olli
Antwort von husky-holger:
Exactly, called X-UFO the device. Have I misspelled above.
Interesting little Hubi, seems to be synonymous not just with its crash landing in the air to try to stop because it is very easy.
About Ebay synonymous, I had a month ago, a cheap wireless camera only anden.
On the ground they worked amazingly well, synonymous in the whole house through walls, no radio killings.
Mounted s.meinem camera frame, there are problems. There are always plenty of picture dropouts. Because I am a 1.2 GHz model with fine tuning, can be due to this. I think the 2.4 GHz models do not have a button for fine tuning. The 1.2 GHz models are always forbidden, but up here no one interested in this, we live in the middle of the Swedish mountains. The image quality is surprisingly good, if one thinks s.den price and so much fun you can have.
There have been times since NEN insured event with his model helicopter and strange dog. The pilot could not land because of a dog passers Hubi as the toy that was funny. Shortly before closing petrol flew them and the pilot attempted a landing outside exterior of the dogs reach. This resulted in a Krasch at least kept the dog continues to have a clear head ... lol .. Later it comes to reimbursement for the more expensive helicopters.
My camera receiver, I s.einen small portable DVD player with LCD screen attached. Works perfectly. I have everything connected s.eine small 12V gel battery.
Holger
Antwort von rtzbild:
Hello Holger,
I am particularly interested in the picture, supposedly, some cams a "pinhole" lens "have?
I have something in another
Antwort von husky-holger:
Hi Olli,
I have no software installed on my calculator to the radio transmitted images can be recorded.
The wara synonymous of me did not intend, as the small pinhole camera only for the guidance of the great camera, or camera used.
The quality of the cheap Ebay with cameras can be of a good webcam compare.
The depth in a room is not as exhilarating. Outside there is however no problem.
Unfortunately I s.and s.einige disturbances (flicker) during the transfer of s.Hubi mounted camera. This occurs particularly in situations where I Hubi in the longitudinal rolls. The camera tripod is designed, however, that it always remains horizontal.
In dismantled state, I have no flicker.
As already discussed by Blume: Expect of the cheap cameras no spectacular images. I can tell you but links to send better systems.
The few Framme, the X-UFO may have abhaben.
Finally, the manufacturer had not even mounted camera. She was even pan and tiltbar (if I'm not mistaken).
Holger
Antwort von rtzbild:
Au ja, bitte mal Cams Links to this post, Holger: o)
Although such qualities are not high grade, they can very well for documentation purposes, the viewer recognizes a rather blurred picture, if he is again "look, our company in the newspaper," as if he rangeht neutral .
Here we have an open channel, which is the send heidenei, but recognize the contributions Leutz in the back and find the contribution of "beautiful", although it is blurred, the images and the whole crooked cut appears to be random based. ..
Well ...
Can you possibly the Cam grad mal s.den AV-IN and hang the clip as AVI unprocessed send?
I've seen a lot, but think Google movies or YouTube clips because of the compression a little and meaningful.
LG Olli
* * active at night
Antwort von Hubi-Frank:
Hello,
I have to so something synonymous to realize, for me is the problem but
different :-) Will Heise, I have an RC Heli (strictly
even 2) and the part can fly properly synonymous. The helicopters are with
Combustion equipment. The small can about 800g and the
large approx 1500g s.Zuladung journeys. An idea for a vibration entkopelte Camera Host I have synonymous.
I do not only and solely the Camera. I've been the whole time
in search of Ebay for a DV where maybe only the Display / Viewfinder
is defective. If anyone of you has something and wants to get rid of
can indeed times reported. Einfach ne mail
info @ mfg - condor. de (of course without lehrzeichen * g *)
Otherwise you will find on this topic at RC Line.de or synonymous with
RC-Heli.de to have lots of info on this topic
gruß Frank
Antwort von Markus:
Hi Frank,
which speaks against a new camcorder with two years warranty? So expensive but the equipment is no longer. Or it may just be "almost nothing" cost?
