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Frage von darklord77:


Hello,

I would bluescreen shots.
Which Camera should be initiated for s.besten?

Hie rim I have read the forum a DV camera because of the compression is not as well suited. Which Camera (in the lower price segment) would be suitable?



Antwort von Eugen von ...:

"darklord77" wrote:
Hie rim I have read the forum a DV camera because of the compression is not as well suited.
In any case "better" than H DV. With DV you get, provided it is clean, the perfect out. HDV is a little more tricky. "Below" of DV, you will find no more sensible different format (eg due to poor resolution).
Tip therefore a reasonable camera, if Chipper goes 3-as well as a sensible green screen (instead of blue) and a current editing program.



Antwort von darklord77:

Why eigendlich green?
What I have here in the forum so read the opinion is so divided. What is the green a little difficult to handle is?

Which format is that what comes after DV?



Antwort von robbie:

after dv?

DVCPRO50

then IMX
then DigiBeta



Antwort von Christian27:

Hi,

if you really "clean" Keys want, you will come with a DV camera is not far ...
Due to the 4:2:0 sampling sämtiche simply lacks color and they can not synonymous DV Antialiasing again "herbeizaubern" ...

I have become cheap at Ebay some professional equipment to collect and can now be 4:4:4 (uncompressed RGB) keyen.

The Camera is a SonyDXC-950P 3CCD HAD Camera (Camera only without the recorder part) and the uncompressed video to play on an RGB frame grabber (Matrox Meteor II) in the Calculator On.

The color will be stored uncompressed and thus is a professional key possible ...

Look here:
http://www.vfx-forum.de/viewtopic.php?t=2554&highlight=dxc950p

Incidentally, I use blue synonymous rather than Keyfarbe, when I get the green spill usually not so good away ...

Many greetings
Christian :-)



Antwort von KlausZ:

Interesting thread, especially linked.
I would like to join an issue. Since neither HDV or DV Keys suitable for clean, I would like to know what low-cost alternative is a useful Chromakey Setup up. With my XH-A1 can I project apparently synonymous forgotten (?). Would possibly an old Betacam and direct recording to HDD a possibility? I need no mobile solution, just a solid setup that is somewhat synonymous quiet gebastelt not be - the main clean Keys. Ideas?
Gruss Klaus.



Antwort von weitwinkel:

if you look through the 420 HDV runterskalieren your materials in
sd material already come next http://www.hackermovies.com/84267/ HDV -4% 3A2% 3A0-to-SD-4% 3A2% 3A2/10124 / /
Another possibility would be with a sony v1/fx7 plus HDMI and black magic
intensity and recorded with apple pro res 422nd ..
or through a canon h1 / sony ex1 and the hd-sdi output ...
gruß cj



Antwort von darklord77:

I would be interested in what I with a DV-Cam can achieve. Possessions of the program DVMatte Gelsen so it should go relatively well. Did someone experience?

Can I get a "relatively favorable" (not DV) camera which I recommend with a good Blue Screen shots can make?



Antwort von darklord77:

Is this camera better for Blue Screen Recording suitable?

http://redcoon.de/index.php/cmd/shop/a/ProductDetail/pid/B131229/cid/2013/refId/intra/






Antwort von weitwinkel:

na relatively cheaper for the same image quality would be
perhaps the hv30 ...
gruß cj



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"darklord77" wrote: ... Is this camera better for Blue Screen Recording suitable? ...
The XH-A1 is an HDV camcorder, to the extent that the above applies for HDV said synonymous for them.
BTW: I do not need s.Green-/Bluescreen-Aufnahmen and therefore this topic only s.Rande persecuted, but since it seems enough examples of successful recordings of this type with (H) DV cameras there, I ask myself whether this discussion is not something exaggerated? Sure, other formats of house better suited, but the questioner is specifically for the lower price segment, so he probably did not fit the National Geographic expected results. This requirement should be synonymous but DV still meet?

Gruß Bernd E.



Antwort von mmohl:

"Eugene of ..." wrote: "darklord77" wrote:
I have read here in the forum is a DV camera because of the compression is not as well suited.
In any case "better" than H DV.

How can I explain this because? HDV but has much more resolution reserve. If the chroma subsampling is a problem, then you should HDV much better, because a computer has Picture in Comparison to an HDV Picture yes on all channels a lower Resolutionund is synonymous to all channels in the relationship "subgesampled".



Antwort von darklord77:

So today I have time a test recordings never made the bad times. Moreover, the whole always produced for the Internet.

I have an old Panasonic NV-DS15 (8 years old or so, I believe synonymous has only one chip)
But the result was not so bad eigendlich-Have some tips here from the forum followed.

1. Yellow light on the rear side of the set
2. Before keying the blue channel slightly Blur

Then with After Effects 2-3 times Color-Key.

Festegestellt I have the yellow light was properly brought.
I do not like the look when it comes to DVD and TV works, but it goes for the Internet.
Nevertheless, I would like in the foreseeable future, a camera with which I fairly high-quality results can erziehlen. Especially because it is not just for the Internet remains.



Antwort von darklord77:

Hello,

na, the question is still unanswered in the room!

Can anyone give a hint what Camera I s.besten for bluescreen shots should buy?
S.besten priced at the bottom (the semi).
I realize that these cameras a little more expensive than MiniDV Cams.

1. Which Camera?
2. Which format?
3. What additional hardware do I need to edit.

So my software is Adobe After Effects CS3 and Premiere are available.



Antwort von B.DeKid:

Gude

Na purchase as Canon HV 20/30 or XL 1s / 2 or XH1A

Or the matching Sony models ..... is actually no real preference .....

Come synonymous fully on the budget to pay what you want.

Purchase dear what favorable / or used .... and to take still NEN some good with light sources, namely the'll need.

Ich würd ne Canon HV20 and then take the light with soft finish.

Alla
MfG
B. DeKid



Antwort von darklord77:

Yes,

but what is the matter with the DV because of the compression is not as dolle his Sool?

Where can I buy Softboxes? Anybody know any online shop?



Antwort von B.DeKid:

"darklord77" wrote: Yes,

but what is the matter with the DV because of the compression is not as dolle his Sool?

Where can I buy Softboxes? Anybody know any online shop?

Well what do otherwise take the DV instead? ---
Beta? Film?
So of course, nonsense NEN klapppt the DV with no preference whether SD or HD, you have to do is make. (Clear Flash and up eight)

Softboxes can buy on Ebay, synonymous other lamps like Arri and etc gibts da. Respect the plan, the headlights do not generate spots .... generally, the screen does not show large variations in the blend as measured 1 / 3 Aperture. Then the work synonymous with the Keyen.

For more color - blue for a cool picture or pictures where blue suits better ...... Green in all other matters such as the outside shots.

Hab synonymous heard better with the blue and green film funzt more in digital media.

But Green is already very common.

Alla
MfG
B. DeKid



Antwort von tv-man_sh:

"B. DeKid" wrote: Well what do otherwise take the DV instead? ---
IMX, DVCPRO50, DigiBeta, HDCAM, BetaSX
The 4:2:2 sampling world is virtually full of possibilities;)






Antwort von thos-berlin:

I have a friend with a regular broadcast on local television production. The raw material (synonymous for moderations in front of a green wall) is on IR. The Hintgergrundbilder are blaulastig-which is actually not as good fits to the green wall.

It is with DV - gekeyed material. The result is OK, spill minimal.

I myself have with the simplest means (Panasonic GS11) and without a really good attitude and Preparation (light) is a useful result.

Therefore now my question: What should ever be made? Is it a feature film with virtual scenes or should only a moderation made. In the first case is much more than just keying to be observed. In the second case, with sufficient data to achieve results. I think the coverage is (not only in this price segment ") more important than the other techniques.



Antwort von darklord77:

It's about moderation.
Yes, I might get me ne HDV Cam and light. But I am not really sure.



Antwort von darklord77:

Hello,

I would like to hire me this CAM fetch:





Antwort von weitwinkel:

So with the v1 security can not simply 1920x1080 in 4 2 2 record
that it needs a solid HDMI cable to a black magic
intensity and a good mac with Final Cut Pro (apple pro res 422) behind it ...
unfortunately so far there are few reports about this experience.
gruß cj



Antwort von Markus:

"darklord77" wrote: ... I would bluescreen shots.
Must it necessarily be a colored background (with all of the above technical effort)? - If not, see here: Keying. Because of you can link to browse link and find out what's with the Lumakey is all about.



Antwort von smooth-appeal:

"darklord77" wrote:
Then with After Effects 2-3 times Color-Key.

If you already work with AE then use Keylight kindly synonymous ;-)



Antwort von darklord77:

For me, there s no Keylight strangely!



Antwort von darklord77:

Ok. Keylight belongings found :-)
The edges will be significantly better. This schwächelt it s.anderen bodies. Must be me but only slightly employ.



Antwort von darklord77:

So now I have a little playing around.
I have a bekanngten of a HV20 ausgeliegen. The whole then recorded in HDV. The result has me surprise myself. Have a perfect result get.

My experience from the studies:
Recordings with DV (1 Chip Camera) = ausgerauhte edges

Recording with DV (3-chip camera) = ausgerauhte edges, not much better than with the 1 Chipper

Recording with HDV (3 Chip Camera HV20) = surprisingly good result. Smooth edges.

That Makes me wonder a little. HDV subject but just like the DV 4:2:0 compression or?






Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

"darklord77" wrote:
Recording with HDV (3 Chip Camera HV20) = surprisingly good result. Smooth edges.

Hi,
since when has the HV20 because three recording chips? I can remember exactly why (ie, only one) in my quest for a second camera from the grid is flown ..
BG,
Andreas



Antwort von B.DeKid:

"darklord77" wrote: ........
That Makes me wonder a little. HDV subject but just like the DV 4:2:0 compression or?

Cool to see it work .... like now with 4 2 0 or 4 2 2, is really no preference but now hast ja ne way found and will certainly synonymous to get good results. The important thing is actually just the right lighting and the vernümpftige keying in retrospect.

MfG
B. DeKid



Antwort von PowerMac:

"darklord77" wrote:
That Makes me wonder a little. HDV subject but just like the DV 4:2:0 compression or?

That is the resolution better. In keyen HD to SD down.



Antwort von darklord77:

Öhm ... od did not know the HV20 is a 3 Chipper. I just assumed. In any event, the really good pictures - no preference how many chips.

B. How DeKid says:
Light is really the most important.
I handle with Baustrahlern rum - the eigendlich work quite well. You only know how to use.

In any case I still need 2 additional light emitters and the foil or the like means.



Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

"darklord77" wrote:
In any case I still need 2 additional light emitters and the foil or the like means.
Hi,
do you mean maybe "Frost" with "film lighting"?
BG,
Andreas



Antwort von PowerMac:

lol