Frage von c8n8b1s:
Request for entry-level help
Writing scripts and even staging itself synonymous Technical experience in camera I do not have meaning only in a dramatic and theoretical. Sound Technology is again a very familiar to me box. For various reasons for I need help getting started, however, a bisserl in the questions of the format, price and the expected result:
I really couch with my assumption that if I want to record on tripod with good TV quality articles (Maybe once synonymous with nem fish-eye effect or another joke), which have good quality for incorporation into TV contributions have, seeking a HDV or DV Camera? I once read a report about a "good" camera, culminating in conjunction with Final Cut Pro, a perfect symbiosis. Find the article in my tons of magazines anymore. This must be so in the middle of last year in an Apple Mac magazines have been. Can someone help me on the jumps? I guess you are middle of last year has a lot of news synonymous, right? - PS: I know, television reports WEEEIIIT interpretable quality is a concept, but of course I said already, the more upscale Optics particularly as synonymous for many short films on cinema screens must. Oh dear - maybe I'm speaking of 2 completely different cameras / sizes - right?
Very loving thanks in advance
Antwort von PowerMac:
Frankly, I do not find your question.
What rights do you have? RTL messages? MTV stunts? Short films for the Internet? Of imaging for the Cannes film festival?
I have Final Cut Pro. With a mediocre Mac and the software you get everything out of Hollywood films to regional TV.
The situation is different at the Camera. Whether RTL or Internet film, which is a difference. See above.
I fear you have when you're shit and no idea or no sense of camera, your movie is synonymous bad.
But an XL2 or DVX100 camera should do it. What are they doing so, you can find out on google.
Whether HD or SD? If you do not Ahung, a meaningless question. Rather, an HD camera. Is needed, though again a fast Mac and expensive equipment. In the next few years, but HD is becoming increasingly important.
But ANY DV or HDV camera just works well with Final Cut Pro.
Antwort von c8n8b1s:
Okay, so the old song. Grope with questions in the forum as always does not work. Some answer could spare a lot of searching. But as I have been programming in Flash, PHP issues and experiences of other cases (where I've finally learned everything myself, and the forums are obsolete and out of my current knowledge about many things synonymous) is false explain forums are really a waste of time. If I'm well read on the Internet, I'm more of them than for me to read such a totally useless reply, which consumes unnecessary space, you're wasting your and my time and just point out what you want for a pike, and I was the Noobie not. Moreover, it was only a matter of orientation, I did not lead to a noob ne camera, I had to pay only in it for anyone, and if you want to be happy, we can compare your times and my masterpieces, then we'll see Who here has what on it. Sorry, but true man, who sounds as loud as you (or I misunderstood your words?) Is mostly a problem which has no place here, nothing. As soon as I got here, I am synonymous gone. Good night ....
PS: (Quote: "I have Final Cut Pro. With a mediocre Mac and the software you get everything out of Hollywood films to regional TV.") -> And this is probably the biggest nonsense that I have ever heard. Boys throw away all your Avid places, eat allet useless stuff:) .... naja ...
Good luck
Antwort von BjörnF:
I think you have misunderstood what very thorough - and you do rumtönen ...
And the basic message just right. With nem Avid likes to go much faster and more comfortable, but you can unravel very much synonymous with simpler means. But bad starting material remains just a bad source material.
That what you want to rotate) can (can with ner ner Z1 or PD 170 would be (HDV synonymous with working a little thought to the future well).
Depending on the issue or request it may make sense to halt, ne right in front of the camera optics have to - ie ne DSR-400 and 450th But then something like that could be so easy to rent synonymous in the rotation.
Depending on your claim, it would probably be better anyway, instead of buying ne "small" camera, rent by the day rather larger broadcast cameras.
Björn
Antwort von PowerMac:
I do not know what your problem is.
I have tried to answer the question, which I had picked out to give an answer. It's a paradox, on the one you write, have no idea, and asking a completely naive question. Second, you stilisierst you up at once to a successful director.
Do you feel pissed off because I assumed that you have no idea of cameras? It is nunmal so that films of Camera-amateur-like their grandiose staging are bad.
You say yourself that your TV features a wide field. Especially since you're talking synonymous of DV cameras.
Incidentally, I have argued that editing software + Camera = perfect symbiosis is nonsense. Each DV / HDV camera just works fine with any editing software. The perfect symbiosis does not exist.
This is no secret.
Glad you s.Schluss still a "sideswipe" at Final Cut distribution. Very successful. That "of regional TV and Hollywood film was" serious. This is no bullshit. With Final Cut have been cut without any problems, Hollywood films such as Ocean's 11/12, Cold Mountain or Jar Head. It is not a matter that Avid is bad and that one because of its Final Cut Avid needs to throw away. A classic fallacy of star director with PHP knowledge.
Antwort von Leini:
Hello,
would be important to know, what financial resources are available.
mfg
Leini
Antwort von MiXMaster:
Okay, so the old song. Grope with questions in the forum does not work, as always .... If you like the judge had only 12 h after exhaustive ...
... all the best of me, synonymous
The fat Stefan
Antwort von c8n8b1s:
Hello,
would be important to know, what financial resources are available.
mfg
Leini Thank you for your constructive Leini question. You're right, that would provide guidance. So I had hoped to have to spend no more than 6000, - Euro, but does not know whether that extends into the right movie format inverstieren too. Can you tell me if this is set too low so I know what to expect? Ganz lieben Dank s.Dich that you have not jumped on the train.
PS s.Mister "IF YOU ARE SHIT ...": I'm sorry if I overreacted, perhaps a little but the sound makes the music, and your sound has caught me on the wrong foot. Moreover, I am neither a star nor Möchtegernstarregisseur "to pick up your" flaming ", synonymous, and I do not think that I would have been the only way the wording would have found your little strange. But perhaps I am not yet reached the age of internet phrases, may indeed be synonymous. Final Cut Pro, I can only say that my cynicism with which I was only reacting to your sound (and admittedly that was synonymous not much better of me than of you), I was led to a sharp point, which is evident from the fact I had not asked about software, but after a Camera!? Viewed apart from that I am in possession of Final Cut Pro and G5 and have been synonymous use that was not the question, because quite frankly you seem to me a little bit like a Final Cut Pro, promoter before (see the second posting of) you:) -- naja no preference - PSPS: I understand your explanation sustainable bezügl. Camera clue and I have previously synonymous already understood what you meant to say is synonymous here not only I understand what this has to do with my question. That would be as if I were to ask in a forum, what shoes she used to walk in deep snow and I got whacked, the answer has been waiting for the world that I can wear's shoes but must go on: Oh really, thank you for the info. If I had not thought that it must be able to run. Oh - I could go on here to write next hour, but I will now try to stop it. I like it when people just do not nunmal so'ne disrespectful way of talking. Sorry, since we both just not together. Ne question of life, perhaps.
PSPSPS: came to realize I am not for "12h" but for "12J":)
Thanks s.The other loved ones again, and nice greeting
Antwort von PowerMac:
Moreover, I am neither a star nor Möchtegernstarregisseur "to pick up your" flaming "(...) So you've started, I do not ...
I have now read through your inane garbage time and the third time synonymous understood. A hint: it does not make you smarter, if you make sets of three rows. Especially if nothing substantial behind it.
And no, please do not complain for an hour next.
It is more meaningful if you pick up on the tips. Maybe you've discovered that I have spoken of "XL2" and "DVX100". These are cameras. Yes, and the synonymous cost of less than 6000 euros.
The fact that you can enter these "concepts" in google, you will be aware. Also, the forum search is interesting. So you can find information and experiences.
Bjorn has spoken synonymous of the Z1. This is synonymous a camera. You synonymous costs around 6,000 euros.
Another tip would be the HVX200. The record on memory cards and offers a low compression. Somewhere between 6000 and 9000 Euro.
Since you seem to own statements, not yet reached the age of the Internet are familiar phrases, we recommend the purchase of magazines unrealistic and misguided as the digital video assets.
More opaque it is, if one at google for "cameras for 5000 euro" looking. The top responses should interest you.
Rein principle: the Internet makes less sound, the music, but the content.
Quote PS: to be learned if one wants to stir things up.
Antwort von Stefan:
PSPSPS: came to realize I am not for "12h" but for "12J":)
Then it would slow time to work time on it. You come in here fresh and have as one of the few, and even jump in the first posting immediately Zoff. How can this be? Nobody knows you, None is like hollebolle out to an extra look at you under the on Kieker to. And ... not 12 h later, x rotten people. I call such knowledge Prejudice ...
Good luck
The fat Stefan
Antwort von MiXMaster:
Thank you for your constructive Leini question. You're right, that would provide guidance. So I had hoped to have to spend no more than 6000, - Euro, but does not know whether that extends into the right movie format inverstieren too. Can you tell me if this is set too low so I know what to expect? Ganz lieben Dank s.Dich that you have not jumped on the train.
Upscale Optics for 6000 euros. Then come to me, the JVC GY-DV cameras, 500, 5000 and 5100th Only it will be 6000 euros with a bit tight. Residual 5000s as one for 6000 euro is in it. The 5100 is synonymous true 16:9.
Here are more www.jvc-pro.de
Otherwise, as has already discussed the Canon XL2, Panasonic AGDVX100.
Should it go more often to the cinema format - then the HDV cameras SonyFX1 or Z1.
mfg
Leini
Antwort von Kiara Borini:
Yes, 6000 Euronen are a good base. The question is whether it only for the camera is available, or if editing workstation, software, tripods, lighting, etc. must be paid synonymous them.
Overall I think that it is in DV for a proven and established Materail. Here are Panasonic, Canon and Sonyhervorragende to Prosumersegment cameras, which were synonymous all been mentioned.
Where is the HDTV, the train is still open. HDV prosumer solution has disadvantages for the future (interlaced or low resolution) and must first prove in the coming years. Perhaps, however, urges a previous hard disks or Flash memory solution earlier in the gap without this problem. (This must be met no-bodies Komatibilitätskriterien and Invovationszyklen should be faster.) But, as I said, the future is still open.
In DV, however, there will be only marginal developmental steps, the field is defined. Good Prosumermaterial there are s.2500 to 4500th DV in the professional sector is clearly upward, but is sometimes due s.Profibedürfnisse (sound!) Adapt Prosumermodellen still affordable.
When I see an HDV prosumer debut at just under 3000 to just under 10000th
With HDV, there are now twice as many as in DV cameras with interchangeable lenses. Whether this is a continuing trend, however, remains to be seen.
HDTV in the professional area is really expensive.
Antwort von c8n8b1s:
So you've started, I do not ... Then read again in front of ....
I have now read through your inane garbage time and the third time synonymous understood. A hint: it does not make you smarter, if you make sets of three rows. Especially if nothing substantial behind it.
And no, please do not complain for an hour next. Write sentences on three lines of evidence do not contribute intelligently from need, but of which one is not able to come in affect to the point.
It is more meaningful if you pick up on the tips. Maybe you've discovered that I have spoken of "XL2" and "DVX100". These are cameras. Yes, and the synonymous cost of less than 6000 euros.
The fact that you can enter these "concepts" in google, you will be aware. Also, the forum search is interesting. So you can find information and experiences. Bjorn has spoken synonymous of the Z1. This is synonymous a camera. You synonymous costs around 6,000 euros. Another tip would be the HVX200. The record on memory cards and offers a low compression. Somewhere between 6000 and 9000 Euro.
Since you seem to own statements, not yet reached the age of the Internet are familiar phrases, we recommend the purchase of magazines unrealistic and misguided as the digital video assets.
More opaque it is, if one at google for "cameras for 5000 euro" looking. The top responses should interest you. Yes "discovered" is the right word. And secondly, if the with Google's so easy, then ask why in the forum yet? Your suggestions are always better. So I have 6000 euros and then one time I tip in Google: Camera for 6000 euros. Among the top 10 is as likely to be synonymous with getting the 3000 Euro and 500 Euro cameras, here is the best camera for your money. I thought this can be prevented with questions in the forum. Did not know that you have to be insulted then just as shit. And if my first post should have read it correctly, you would have noticed that I have a Report to a camera in a ... hear hear: "ZEITSCHIRFT"'ve searched but not found again.
Rein principle: the Internet makes less sound, the music, but the content. Quote PS: to be learned if one wants to stir things up. Then read this thread again and you'll see in front of where my sound has changed. The same proposal is s.Stefan synonymous.
At all other please be thanked once again that it affected me like this makes suggestions and tries to help without having to discover the tips between the invective - to put it into words macs - only 'minimum'. Dear thanks again.
On the question whether there is money for Light there, would like to briefly address my concerns: There is a young and talented team of filmmakers condemned in my environment, I want to support you. This team has so far I know previously worked primarily with rental equipment. I wanted to do a little advance smart, what is to come up to me. I would of course synonymous times can knock on my colleagues to tech. Ask for details or to have to explain, but the temptation when one is sitting s.Calculator was too great times "short" (well, probably just threw it but do not ask) in a forum. Do not harm hearing multiple pages of opinions.
So if I understand correctly, I would have, on average, with 10.000, - Euro for a camera and then schedule yet for extra lighting, etc.? Ok, so now I'll time everyone here, especially the fallen cameras - Powermac listen - for "GOOGLE" Enter and well read me. Then I'll me the Active Digital Video Magazine grow and call colleagues.
* Ganz lieben Dank s.Kiara Borini for the discussion of the formats. Sowas I had not found and has helped me a bit about it
Antwort von PowerMac:
You're a nut!
Something extra for you to read:
http://www.movie-college.de/filmschule/kamera/dv-kameras.htm
http://www.movie-college.de/filmschule/kamera/profi-dv.htm
Antwort von c8n8b1s:
You're a nut!
Something extra for you to read:
http://www.movie-college.de/filmschule/kamera/dv-kameras.htm
http://www.movie-college.de/filmschule/kamera/profi-dv.htm Thanks for your links but synonymous thank you for your continuous insults. I do not know - exactly what I mean, I never could such words come from the lips) (or the buttons. But it shows how even at this all started. One need only read of top to bottom, nothing more is needed.
Lieben Gruß
PS: I'm a spinner, fantasy is my strength, my weakness is relaxed to deal with insults.
Antwort von PowerMac:
Yes, yes, is a gift;))
