Frage von hoerzu:
Hi,
I'm looking for a cheap camcorder.
My problem is: Which format should I choose?
MiniDV or hard drive / DVD / SD Card
I edit the movies in Final Cut Express,
Therefore, the format should be compatible synonymous (If there is no problem with MiniDV)
As far as I am still off of MiniDV is the size of the
uncompressed movie (I think 11 minutes = 1 GB).
I would just special filming and editing
I would immediately use MiniDV.
But I do stop often synonymous private Aaufnahmen (family etc)
This would, of course, the DVD / hard camcorder in a better
Question ... I only have a budget of 500 ¬
And am quite confused. ^ ^
I hope you can help me
Antwort von Markus73:
As far as I am still off of MiniDV is the uncompressed size of the film (I think 11 minutes = 1 GB). Wrong: 5 minutes = 1 GB :-)
I would just special filming and editing
I would immediately use MiniDV.
But I do stop often synonymous private Aaufnahmen (family etc)
This would, of course, the DVD / hard camcorder in a better
Question ... This logic, I do not ... If you take the shots once on DVD, you can yes - if you really do not need more - the original DV files (remove tapes storing). Then the size problem, none more.
Regards,
Markus
Antwort von Jan:
Hello --
DVD camcorders are sometimes still a bit difficult to berabeiten as Flash or HDD equipment. Since you have VOB or VRO files with Dolby digital (Sony Partially synonymous 5.1 depending on model).
Final Cut Express Whether able to deal with, I venture to doubt. When the flash and HDD units, it is often synonymous with mods Dolby digital. That is at least in Pana, Canon, JVC Sonyand often the case.
When supplied with the software via USB on plays, then makes the SW mpg'daraus. If you do not, as None of the 4 companies in a flash & HDD camcorder to 500 ¬ a Mac editing program mitliefert. You can read the data on your hard drive and then drag conversion.
Since I am a Win user, I know the import formats of the Mac software programs do not - because you'll see.
I say it now provides to 23igsten time - buy you a HDV SonyHC 5 for 499 ¬ - HDV and DV is perfect for the Mac. If there is no camera tapes (up to 500 ¬) must be, then you will get a little stressful, because this is a Mac simply ill-suited.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Musashi:
Hello Hörzu,
Markus73 as has already written: 60 Minutes MiniDV is about 13 GB.
However, you can cut in most programs when the synonymous capture mpeg format. It requires only about one-fifth of the storage capacity. Then you have the original DV quality still on the tape and they can then still in full quality on NEN new calculator with more memory or an external hard drive to play.
In the last edition of the Active Digital Video Magazine (August / September) are 8 Cams beginners class in the price by 350 euros have been tested:
Test winner was the Canon FS100. She draws on SDHC cards. price at Amazon for 350 ¬
Sales Tip was SonyDCR-HC62E. MiniDV recording medium. Amazon price: just over 300 ¬.
At best, you buy it you look at the magazines and you read the individual tests.
Good luck,
Musashi
Antwort von raymaker:
HC5 - 500 ¬, as already mentioned. I say again and again if the "up to 500 ¬" question.
Antwort von Jan:
No, I mean honestly - if you give me ¬ 500 in the hand, and says - you buy ne Camera (more money there is not) then I would buy HDV SonyHC 5 - while they still have to be!
@ Musashi - it's good, just not synonymous VAD writes that the Flash Memory & HDD Files without a converter for conversion of many Mac software programs are not liked.
As I said a Mac software is in none of the 4 companies with a camera up to 500 ¬, no preference whether H 40 Panasonic, JVC MG 330 & 331, SonyHC 35, Canon FS 100 etc - always win. I must, unfortunately, often find that I ca 8 cameras in the flash memory & HDD class had to take back just because the customer was no possibility of their recordings without converting s.Mac edit. Hardly synonymous, I think that customers do not plan all of their Mac and SW have.
I became synonymous confirmed that customers synonymous SW than any other movie I've tested. Mac users are more technically minded and progressive.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Caranta:
No, I mean honestly - if you give me ¬ 500 in the hand, and says - you buy ne Camera (more money there is not) then I would buy HDV SonyHC 5 - while they still have to be!
I might search for the wrong camera?
The SonyHDR-HC5E stands at 721 ¬ in miser.
Antwort von Jan:
This is annoying, I had the camera less than a week still in the shop! sold for 499 ¬. At that time, she was synonymous at Amazon for 500 ¬ to get. Buy it now for 628 ¬ - sometimes the prices go up again soon ....
Antwort von Musashi:
Hi,
now costs the HC5 already 999 ¬ at Amazon last week, she was still available for 549 ¬.
If your choice on the HC5 like his, I would wait a little longer each day and track the price. In my Camera (HV20), the price was very curious synonymous. I got it for 729 ¬ more and get a few weeks later was the cheapest offer of 1299 ¬, while the successor model, the HV30, ¬ 400 was cheaper.
Gruß,
Musashi
Antwort von Caranta:
Say, it sounds good :-)
I'll eifach mal ein udn pursue biss'l look at what makes the price so.
To 499 ¬ would have been immediately taken.
Antwort von Scorp.ius:
where they are now in amazon it cost just 999.00 (?
Antwort von Caranta:
577 ¬ ... na, we hope that it works ... :-)
Antwort von HarryPhone:
Thanks for the tip. Cam also had the remains of ramp at Amazon for 444.60 euro bought. The box outside is damaged, otherwise "used - like new".
Then I'll hope that with the former returned everything is in order ...
Antwort von Decke:
First a huge thanks for all the useful Information.
I have been synonymous in the search for a suitable camcorder.
My age has been almost 10 years old, a SonyTr .. no Hi8 digital.
I have very, very much here in the forum and synonymous read in other forums and I came to the conclusion that the SonyHDR exactly HC5
the right one for me.
I mainly just movies private birthdays, parties ... etc.
and then I cut the movies or do I edit it in part.
I had actually been with Cam for a hard drive but decided
after I have read everything so I'm away from.
I think it is certainly a giant leap to my Cam
because of the quality, I hope! ?
One problem I had is the price of so risen in the I-net unbelievable.
But I was yesterday by coincidence as in the Saturn and still have it for 499 ¬ as Restposten had me but I have today laid down and it will soon provide me tomorrow.
I think and hope the price is so far fine.
Thank you for all the info's.
Only one thing I did not quite understand is when I and with
HDV can I do with the quality synonymous with no losses on the PC and bring just as with Magix Video deluxe edit?
With SD, it is clearly working well without problems.
Antwort von Caranta:
Saturn Germany, right?
Antwort von Jan:
The advertising for 499 ¬ was a German advertising - a few weeks ago ...
Yes, I will just synonymous aware that I prefer the company for a few more of Sonyhätte order to - it will probably still take a long time ne bis in Sonyein HD camcorder under 500 ¬ to acquire.
If you do not have a very old version of Magix Deluxe daheim searched - then there is no problem. Your calculator is a little more boost to the frame and precise cut ala DV is no longer synonymous there - but you get a totally different quality.
But as usual, the DV Firewire / IEEE 1394 / I-link cable - no USB, since each HDV Manufacturer - which is a USB port - only the slow USB Full Speed has built, that's when SonyHC as 5,7,9 but synonymous with Canon HV 20 & 30th For DV and Panasonic GS 230, 320, 330 or 500, there is by USB 2.0 HS, at least the possibility - but no recommendation! You should look at but then worry about what will happen after the cut with the film happens.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Decke:
Saturn Germany, right? So, I've just completed a SonyHC 5 for 449 ¬ ergattert.
Who is looking for and still a resident in the Ruhrpott
Saturn 499 ¬ Witten had been issued but it will get for 449 ¬.
Saturn Dortmund incredible 599 ¬
Greeting
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Antwort von Caranta:
The advertising for 499 ¬ was a German advertising - a few weeks ago ... Good, then we need ichnicht seek it .. and maintaining order in my 577 ¬ ;-)
If you do not have a very old version of Magix Deluxe daheim searched - then there is no problem. Your calculator is a little more boost to the frame and precise cut ala DV is no longer synonymous there - but you get a totally different quality. Ich hab grad in the Amazon Marketplace bought Magix Deluxe 2007 (with Pinacle worse, I am not longer after I ...), with the demo version was entirely satisfied.
But as usual, the DV Firewire / IEEE 1394 / I-link cable - no USB, since each HDV Manufacturer - which is a USB port - only the slow USB Full Speed has built, that's when SonyHC as 5,7,9 but synonymous with Canon HV 20 & 30th For DV and Panasonic GS 230, 320, 330 or 500, there is by USB 2.0 HS, at least the possibility - but no recommendation! You should look at but then worry about what will happen after the cut with the film happens.
VG
Jan Firewire was impossible for me until now, the Panasonic has no Firewire output ....
Antwort von Jan:
What now?
The above Panasonic models have a Firewire output, that is for DV and HDV cameras synonymous as usual. There are not many since 1995, DV cameras - which do not have Firewire output - JVC has the times were brought.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Caranta:
I think we have talked to each other :-) Jan
I have now a Panasonic VDR-D160 and which has no firewire output.
The I've never, however long, I've found a buyer.
I've got me on your advice to buy SonyHC 5, let's see if I was with the better than come with the Panasonic.
Antwort von Markus73:
I have now a Panasonic VDR-D160 and which has no firewire output. Jan spoke of DV cameras, as is the VDR-D160 does not.
Regards,
Markus
Antwort von Caranta:
Yes, I know Mark .. I have tried it on my "Pansonic terms without write what I actually did.
