Frage von goodslash:
Hello,
There are certainly among you professionals who have experience with the filming under difficult lighting conditions. In our case, we are looking
proved a camera that is suitable for theater and stage and has.
(Headlight with color filters, "runner", the great light-dark contrast
produce relatively large recording space, ie zoom in low light, etc.)
In this atmosphere should preferably not be falsified.
I have received as yet no report about the Sony Experience
Z1E or HVR-A1E found. Worthwhile at all the entry into
HD world, if it is currently hardly affordable editing programs or playback devices and there is reason for the down-conversion
or do the switch back to DV?
I fear for the above requirements would be money out the window
cast, because what good are all the professional features when s.end
mediocre image quality is!?
Good weather cameras, we have enough s.unserer school ...
Antwort von PowerMac:
The question is how well you or the camera / camera men are
Neat mitschwenken draw sharpness settings, planning and axes with the end ... Be prepared. Bildmischung: Live or s.PC home? A Camera? Or rather four? What is the sound use? Lavaliermikros? Spark gaps? Or just a little Micro? That is not all that easy.
I tend to recommend not to take (small) HDV Camera for theater recordings. Which are too faint. The contrasts are too hard for the many pixels per chip area. Better a decent PAL Camera. With a large chip. And a proper lens. Then synonymous right of the zoom and the sharpness is softened. I would not like to zoom in for two hours s.einer fiddly HDV Camera and focus (under stress!). When I'm hit too hard, I nen wobbler! I recommend a large DV / DVCAM Camera with Lens and correct a large, heavy tripod. Hinterkamerabedienung and, therefore, focus ring and zoom button. And of course nem external display. On the top with a little dolly underneath. Then you can join the TV like a snifter. Is synonymous without Dolly and external control monitor. If only a strain. It must not synonymous not be so expensive. Below 5000 euros, this is feasible. Can I borrow synonymous (camera rental, Open Kanel, etc.), which is not so expensive.
Usually, all you probably just filming a stage play, so one evening. And not the whole week. So to borrow for the weekend. Friday and Saturday start. Take better version. Or contracted for the best. Makes use of m. M. on the duration of paid as a separate, inferior camera for 2000, 3000 euros.
But this is more of a justification to all the small HDV / DV cameras.
Wiegesagt many pixels per area. So rather dark. The CMOS chip is synonymous not the truth. Rather low Resolutionim Comparison with 3CCD, Smearing overwhelmed with a lot of movement because (mpeg2).
On the positive XLR and the display of A1 and their ilk. Relatively good display. And it is 16:9.
Antwort von The-Chronic:
Since you're right, what the fumbling with small enclosures while
at least 2 hours, better means of each of at least 7200 seconds s.hochkonzentrierter attention.
Whether one or 4 cameras in this case is no preference. Since everyone must do its utmost to the "draufhalten.
The sound here is time not only of interest as required eg reading, big band and the same time completely different treatment.
You speak of PAL systems, because it suited for the stage and Conditions
were. Of large chips and right lenses. Sounds like a very expensive!
I would help more if you call the children by name synonymous
would. In this forum, that's no product placement!
Others can give different opinions and brands synonymous!
With price ranges.
The most important requirement is the processing s.PC.
At least for the DVD standard MPEG 2
Do you know a new normal editing program, good and cheap?
Like the look with the HD - fit for out right now? Experience?
Many questions - the curtain open ...
marvels of the expert - the layman wondering ...
Greetings from good slash!
Antwort von PowerMac:
All DVCAM cameras and everything about it: (new 8000-100.000)
http://teltec.de/html.php?klick=13000000&mode=6&lang=deutsch&pagenr=0&preklick=6
JVC GY-5000/5100 (Ebay s.and s.für 3000, New s.5800 or so)
Older Panasonic DVCPRO cameras (synonymous s.and on Ebay for 2500, 3000)
Reasonably likely JVC GY-HD100 (about 5500)
The standard lenses are schonmal halfway usable.
Otherwise:
vcm-markt.de
Ebay
Using the search function you will find many video editing programs:
Final Cut Express, Adobe Premiere Elements ...
Antwort von Debonnaire:
This camera might interest you do not synonymous! I have recorded that some theater and stage plays:
http://forum.slashcam.de/v-sony-profi-camcorder-dsr-200ap-dvcam-schultergestutzt-vt33693.html?highlight=dsr200ap Great professional quality, with XLR audio inputs and, thanks to the housing size, no more fumbling in the dark! Check it out!
Antwort von Sam_Broggs:
Thanks s.PowerMac, thanks s.Debonnaire!
To the latter I am grateful for his offer to sell me his used to. Although your camera, as you say, first-class professional stage make recordings, I would rather that their original packaging.
I would s.Deiner place to keep them!
For PowerMac: And all the others anyway!
The HD, HDV issue has been done of yourself! (If they come back healthy from Mars.)
My search regarding the above matter, I came across the following criteria: "... the best low-light camera ...", or:
"... outstanding lowlight quality ..." = A SonyDCRVX 2100 / 380kpix,
Camcorders 640X480 ... (Cons as too weak battery, which I
would not care when a power supply adapter) ...
or:
SonyDSR-PD 170 PAL
The description was given a minimum illumination of 1 lux,
under Technical Data were suddenly Lux 2 .. etc., etc.
Is there really nobody who can help me?
Otherwise I re grave of my old analog 12 years old Sharp, who has always been brilliant images on VHS in TV quality!
Thanks to everyone who knows a helpful answer ...
Antwort von Markus:
SonyDSR-PD 170 PAL
The description was given a minimum illumination of 1 lux,
under Technical Data were suddenly Lux 2 .. etc., etc. The SonyVX2100 is the brightest thing you can get in the consumer sector at present. The PD170 is the appropriate professional model, uswith XLR connectors for Microphone and Line playbacks. This equipment feature could be a great advantage at the stage of recording with additional microphones.
BTW: What do you think the illuminance on a stage together? Only 2 lux? (No). Makes any camcorder (of whatever) at 2 lux usable photos? (No).
More Info:
Antwort von GerdB:
Thanks s.Markus!
I found a camera that will supposedly worked to 0.5 Lux ...
(But how?) The next stage would then probably only infrared! ;)
Seriousness aside
During my research, I am always on "Mark" - Contributions encountered. Good for you! At this point, once a huge compliment!
Even on "slashcam" generally.
Your patience seems impossibly) (teacher, your commitment to exemplary (sociologist), your "Writing") and eloquently amusing (journalist, always fit and appropriate) without arrogance (psychologist. In such a short text articles!
) And this too-almost-every day / night time (miracle.
With a healthy cooperation or competition with a certain "Jan".
Your "newbie" coolslash know it feels good, something synonymous with hörenl times
To the point:
I think that would be the best decision for PAL Sony170 so!?
It is synonymous cheaper than "not new" model. Ebay can be
forgotten in this regard. Bargaining would be better there.
My last question, probably not the last resort:
Bzgl. of good "support material" I have not compare test site found the marks. Cassettes, tapes, quality, prices --- all 3??
And then synonymous nor specifically for the "170". Is after all just as important as the machine or the man who (still) do not know "how to walk the path."
again THANK YOU,
coolslash
Antwort von goodslash:
Correction:
The sender was and is, of course, "GOOD SLASH" and not coolslash.
My Web unsuitability her synonymous can tell it's true, I
registered as a slash'm good, my posts, but always under-gast -
. yours
Well, if nothing worse, there ...!?
, =))
Antwort von BjörnF:
Thanks s.Markus!
I found a camera that will supposedly worked to 0.5 Lux ...
(But how?) The next stage would then probably only infrared! ;) Well, this minimum information should be more suspicious than to trust. Generally you should if you have influence to the idea that the film you want, at a little more light takes place as normal.
Ne dark spot on stage with a character synonymous with the best cameras looks not nice. What it needs is just for video background brightness, and this is not synonymous in the professional area nachzuhelfen unusual since in records, and not just rely on the stage light.
I think that would be the best decision for PAL Sony170 so!?
It is synonymous cheaper than "not new" model. Ebay can be
forgotten in this regard. Bargaining would be better there.
You have not written, how often the cameras staked their will. I find worthwhile purchase only at very regular use. The alternative is rental equipment, which can be worth well. Especially as it perhaps synonymous afford better technology can ". Such as the shoulder DVCAM cameras.
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Antwort von Markus:
Thanks for the compliment. Is apparently not overlook the fact that I make this forum fun! Your interpretation of the way, I found it very entertaining. ;-)
Bzgl. of good "support material" I have not compare test site found the marks. Cassettes, tapes, quality, prices --- all 3?? The strap material had a decisive influence on the result, were stored as video recordings or analog. At that time there were regular test reports in journals, but with Introduction of digital systems became the quality of the strip material into the background. Ones and zeroes are so vulnerable as analog signals.
If you look around you here in the forum (heading camcorder-accessories), you'll more extensive contributions to the topic "Which MiniDV tape?" find. You come here often to true religious wars that MiniDV tape-now is the best. Have fun browsing! ;-)
Examples:
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Welche MiniDV -Kassette? "
TIP: Cheapest DV tapes?
Antwort von ba:
what would you spend on a digital camera?
Antwort von goodslash:
Hello, "ba"
It's about the PD 170 of Sony.
) The one (dealer they can not raise more (?)
- The other, they are still in stock and they want to get rid of.
So it's a matter of time and their own patience.
Yes is the best offer on the www.
Your question sounds as if you had to make a better deal.
If so, her damit.
