Newsmeldung von slashCAM:Canon EOS 500D with 1920x1080 HD video (20 FPS) for 769, - Euro of rob - 25 Mar 2009 09:11:00
Canon, after and is presenting another "machine" in the form of the EOS 500D. Key data for the video section: 15.1 MP CMOS sensor (22.3 x14, 9 mm), 1920x1080p (20 images / s) HD VIdeo, 1280x720p (30 fps), 640x480 (30 fps) in H264 ( . mov) QuickTime, DIGIC IV processor. MSRP: 769, - Euro. Different kits. We fear that no synonymous here a direct, manual control of shutter speed, aperture and ISO is possible ... All technical data is available
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Antwort von the_flasher:
what should be the Canon? 20 images / s at 1920x1080p and may no manual control.
Wait, we prefer the new GH1 from Panasonic.
Antwort von bigaxl:
The next Cam, thanks castrated firmware only with Nikon lenses can be operated and these Quicktime footage used as manure.
Antwort von pailes:
20fps at 1080p? What should one begin? Hopefully they at least 720p or the possibility to incorporate 25fps mode.
The next Cam, thanks castrated firmware only with Nikon lenses can be operated and these Quicktime footage used as manure.
This "crap" was still of the ISO standard as a container for MPEG-4 certified. What would you prefer for? AVI crap?
Antwort von Frank B.:
Slowly you feel as a German (European) users vera ... t!
30 fps, 20 fps - both just over the middle and unfortunately missed. Apparently there are enough to buy this crap. There are, for the Far Eastern Manufacturer no pressure to 25 fps set times. This applies both to the cameras as synonymous cheap HD cams.
Frank
Antwort von partylogger:
Here is more info and a sample video with 20fps:
http://i.gizmodo.com/5182772/canon-eos-rebel-t1i-first-hands-on-50ds-sensor-1080p-vids-899-?skyline=true&s=i
Antwort von Zizi:
Again a yogurt cup .. the better times to build housing Processed synonymous when the camera "only" cost 800e!
And 20fps? My what is that for a standard?
Is the series picture function, or video?
As would be better to expand the 720p mode rather than half-FullHD ..
But the logo FullHD sells better stop!
Well times look like they are against the D90 proposes.
Antwort von Schlingel:
Again a yogurt cup .. the better times to build housing Processed synonymous when the camera "only" cost 800e!
I see the same. You get other manufacturers already in place for high quality housing 300 ¬, which is even sealed. The haptic is an entirely different league - but who buys come 2stellige Canon, where the 3 digit are almost equal? Nobody, in fact.
Only to himself not to compete with, which is otherwise cut into their flesh.
But this is totally OT, sorry.
It would be: For this price you get not sealed magnesium enclosure with DSLR and video function. But this is only a matter of (short) time,
Antwort von alexanderdergrosse:
naja, 20bilder/sek although it lies close to that film 24 or 25 pictures need, and know exactly the Manufacturer
Antwort von buildyo:
Here's even a video comparison with the 5D Mark II:
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-9973-9976
Antwort von Valentino:
For the same money I'll buy a used 50D, which is synonymous in the right hand and on the video function, I can safely forgo.
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
na for me as wanted but not skillfully. 1280x720 is already with 30 B / sec. But why 20 B / sec - that's enough but not sufficient for a maximum of a static image. You can see already, it probably had to go fast. Take a few features of the 50 D and combine it with the 450er and a video about this feature yet ....
VG
Jan
Antwort von Zizi:
Well the 720p videos ever better as with the D90.
Since the codec is likely to be responsible ..
Antwort von WWJD:
I indicates Canon 's strategy times:
Soon (probably) the with an APS-sensor equipped and 1080i, so this questionable at 20fps cameras.
Antwort von Jan:
Well, the NAB is soon ......
There is still a hammer (Video Class XL H 1) come.
We are waiting.
VG
Jan
Antwort von WWJD:
Canon is always good for a surprise. Your HDV - are already outdated, but is pointed for the Aged. And the whole field, the Panas and Sony to leave, I think that last. If not for this year NAB then determined later. The experience with the Canon now Vollformatsensoren the appropriation, it is the only camcorders cope. Canon is not as stupid as you think.
Antwort von Zizi:
Canon is not as stupid as you think.
Yes precisely because they are so shit!
If something is for their clients and victims would Sonyetc. would
they really class!
But yogurt cups with great sensors for sale and purchase after a shit about its customers will know I am only of Canon!
Profitgeil without end .. there are other Manufacturer least bit bearable!
Antwort von Fotofox:
What is produced, the scrap the near future.
Whether of Canon or Nikon, alike. Panasonic seems to be only with the announced GH1 the right track at least closer together.
The mirror will soon be obsolete in general and the i-Recording
well. 1080p50 is announced and the Ambarella chip faces the door.
Compatibility for playback on the perfectly flat TVs.
As for the housing ergonomics concerns: here are the Manufacturer on the spot. Why nobody builds a body along the lines of the analog MF cameras (Hasselblad, Rollei, etc.) just in accordance with smaller dimensions? Square sensor, the APS format covering electronic switching high / crosswise. Constant housing position allows a view on the LCD screen of the top (no more prone rotary and swivel mechanism necessary) with foldable light shaft protection. No ball Eiger, rotating angle flash etc. longer rails.
That would not only look professional!
Antwort von alexanderdergrosse:
Reason for 20B/sek can probably only be the following:
- New for the nearly 800, - should not the expensive models of Tron encounter
(that would be competing within their own brand), it is not profitable,
Unfortunately, this makes each manufacturer so would everyone else for a long time its perfect Cam and the manufacturer would make it harder to sell expensive models - which makes so but anyone Manufacturer.
Were here 25 or 24 images, the user would have much to save (vs. 500D. 5d MARK2)
Antwort von Schlingel:
Reason for 20B/sek can probably only be the following:
- New for the nearly 800, - should not the expensive models of Tron encounter
(that would be competing within their own brand), it is not profitable,
Unfortunately, this makes each manufacturer so would everyone else for a long time its perfect Cam and the manufacturer would make it harder to sell expensive models - which makes so but anyone Manufacturer.
Were here 25 or 24 images, the user would have much to save (vs. 500D. 5d MARK2)
No.. That is, if anything, for people who are only for the Camera Shooting Buy, and even then there is a difference between APS-C and VF.
In photography, the 500D, no preference with which video function, no competition for the 1700 ¬ more expensive 5Dmk2 - these two models serve completely different audiences.
This is not only s.Sensor (including dynamic range, resolution, noise behavior), but synonymous s.der number of individual features, haptic, and direct access to the functionality.
By how much B / s 500D filming interested not own a 5D.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
By how much B / s 500D filming interested not own a 5D.
EXACTLY!
Although synonymous should be mentioned here that some users have such a feature would look.
....................
I persl. I hope so is still a EOS 600 D, as my first EOS 600 with its specifications, just "modern".
I think Canon is still with its series of hundreds of faithful and showing where it goes out.
But I see in a D SLR with video function, is still not a pure video competitors, and am curious how a new XL H1 successor looks ;-)
MfG
B. DeKid
PS: I hope you installed in subsequent flash-based cameras a sound chip that rattle me a real film camera simulated. Thus I know the movies I ;-)
Antwort von Schlingel:
I think Canon is still with its series of hundreds of faithful and showing where it goes out.
I find synonymous: You run away, the entry-level cameras with the worst case (plastic, not sealed) and the smallest feature size to build, quite in contrast to the enthusiastic competitors - Nikon partly exempted.
To show the synonymous clearly where it is: Continue on advertising lure unsuspecting customers ( "Come play"), and the Semipro / Promarkt use - the latter making it synonymous very well.
Once people check in but that one for 300 ¬ a sealed K200D with magnesium housing, the adapter-free way to meaningful use of manual lenses, viewfinders and large more direct access, dynamic range and functionality gets [...]
This is true but only for the beginner class, the Canon still wants milk.
The larger models are much better and more competitive.
Nur mal so s.Rande, now I leave the video forum video function.
Antwort von alexanderdergrosse:
By how much B / s 500D filming interested not own a 5D.
but the owner, a 5d would like and where the price was too high - because the 500D would be the real alternative for 1 / 3 of coal.
Who is filming today with 20B/sek? - Example videos clearly show the -> as missing from the video images (thanks for the links to the test videos).
When too much movement you can see exactly, but okay, what I want of a camera waiting - the video function is incidentally, one
I did not understand, why not 24 or 25 or 30 frames.
For me personally, it is no preference whether the small camera or magnesium casing, or if I was someone with a PMW-colossus in the street wants to impress (which I do not), - first and foremost is about inner values and not because half the things the film in good quality can hold.
Antwort von Zizi:
For me personally, it is no preference whether the small camera or magnesium casing, or if I was someone with a PMW-colossus in the street wants to impress (which I do not), - first and foremost is about inner values and not because half the things the film in good quality can hold.
For ¬ 800, but no one wants what one housing at 300 ¬ camera finds! I think because knattert and warpage of everything, like as if you have a cam or Aldi ienen yogurt cups in their hands would be! I doubt a 400 ¬ cheaper Sony Alpha worse photos .. but much better equipped / is processed!
Magnesium should not be .. but at least it was valuable for the processing of price would fit!
But Canon can afford so just shave it a dirt around the customer where Pentax, Olympus is just pulling all the fingers to gain new customers!
Antwort von alexanderdergrosse:
.. but at least it was valuable for the processing of price would fit!
But Canon may also bar n. ..
I would have been 4 images with more satisfied with the housing
I would live well, is the Micro extra external anyway
, but no preference, I would now never had the idea
come to me a new cam or Fotoappart with video function
zuzulegen, and most prefer to hire me because after 2 months already
everything is obsolete, and for major productions during the day as
the good quality of MARK2 can have.
Antwort von Schlingel:
@ Zizi:
So looks like. And I never ne Sonyins house would - with the smallest seekers in the market and which, in the beginners class, synonymous unworthy Gehäusverarbeitung.
Added to outrageous prices for the professional lenses, because the competition is much cheaper. For beginners, the lenses are the same price, but the competition much better.
The fastest AF in LiveView (; Contrast AF) then attracts ignorant customers who with the display but little or nothing can begin, because the LiveView only 80% of the image represents and the rest of impudent wegschneidet.
Sony Does it not, to be informed - probably because everyone who is concerned about image-making, then the distance of Cam would take. Small viewfinders, 80% LiveView, so it is no more than shoot, but not photographed.
primarily deals with internal values and not because half the things the film in good quality can hold.
I do not understand.
Photography, they can all, ultimately it is just about the price / performance ratio. And who are informed, there is not more money for a worse camera from. As mentioned beschriebenb - the competition has more haptics and functionality, but costs less. In this class mind, dadrüber field is much narrower, and there is more to the personal needs.
Furthermore, the change of the sensor 40D to 50D is a step backwards - the dynamic range was smaller, the noise anymore.
Dumm, this step backwards then synonymous directly assembled into the 500D.
Antwort von meawk:
In addition, according to Adenauer: "What I am interested in my speech of yesterday?"
Eh - the video mode of the 500D is bären strong - better than the 5D II, no black holes and no white or ausgefressenes lights and you can with the "*" - button in the video mode "autofokusieren". Due to the excellent black and gray-shading and the clear / clean white lights and display the video mode of the 500D to lengths better than the 5D II - staun. . . And the 1080p 20fps mode is synonymous to good use, the excellent 720p 30fps mode is not to forget. And the defeat for about 800 euros - awesome!
Antwort von raymaker:
In addition, according to Adenauer: "What I am interested in my speech of yesterday?"
Eh - the video mode of the 500D is bären strong - better than the 5D II, no black holes and no white or ausgefressenes lights and you can with the "*" - button in the video mode "autofokusieren". Due to the excellent black and gray-shading and the clear / clean white lights and display the video mode of the 500D to lengths better than the 5D II - staun. . . And the 1080p 20fps mode is synonymous to good use, the excellent 720p 30fps mode is not to forget. And the defeat for about 800 euros - awesome!
Jesus, Mary Magdalene ....
If your video does not really expose it, or your camera can not operate, is synonymous with the next camera better.
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
Previously you did bad on the photo function of videocameras annoyed, now annoys you about the poor video function of the cameras.
I use for;
Video: video
Photos: Photo camera
Zero hassle!
Antwort von deti:
So I see the synonymous. Thought to be a really useful merger of these two camera technologies, a little longer in coming than many would like.
Deti
Antwort von Zizi:
Eh - the video mode of the 500D is bären strong - better than the 5D II
What a nonsense .. it sounds so s.als do you like the 5D and they could not afford you!
The video mode on the 500D is not bad .. against the 5D, but nevertheless in sharpness / Eindruch back to!
You need only Sachlich remain the sensor size and look.
The versoffene Black is synonymous with the 500s are not much better!
So I see the synonymous. Thought to be a really useful merger of these two camera technologies, a little longer in coming than many would like.
In any event, to make cameras worlds better videos, like video cameras, photos!
Finally, you can even with such a sensor size on film better than with the
Schlumpf semi sensors of video cameras rush! The next wär dan only a 70mm Hasselblad or Mamiya than 4K video camera and
synonymous George Lucas makes the next Star Wars with a photo camera ... ;-)
Antwort von meawk:
Eh - the video mode of the 500D is bären strong - better than the 5D II
What a nonsense .. it sounds so s.als do you like the 5D and they could not afford you!
Again synonymous for you: I have the 5D II has often tested because I start strong interest s.der Cam had. Only - my expectations in terms of picture quality, the Cam is in the direction of Gray-Schwarznuancierung and the ausgefressenen White (Lights) do not meet. I could buy them to me at any time, but why should I ü. 2000 Euro for the body to spend, if I am in the video mode for 800Euro better 500D can buy? And this brings me is not the synonymous something better Lowlight about the 5D II to buy, because I do not mainly in the ghost train film wants. And so good is because they are not synonymous (do you know even s.besten - Music video of you in terms of noise behavior).
Regards
PS: If you miss the 5D II, however, want to sell because you do not zurechtkommst or so - I you buy it for 1000 euro wg. good photo mode, but not a cent more - Zizi.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
@ Zizi
So you will assume that a successor to the XL H1 does not synonymous Full chips will have, it is not really s.Chip
(Ok - Full means you get the focal synonymous to the "KB" stands Lens - more writing)
According to various test reports, the 500D is not so wrong (Still Image Magazine)
Even the 20 FPS umbedingt are not bad - we had about 8 mm synonymous as 18FPS animations and many have even just 15FPS, so you can already work.
MfG
B. DeKid
PS: The good German - 3 EOS 500D chips in an XL H1 Body incl Flash Card-based recording and I like to wear tight for my confidence 10K CANON ;-) I'm waiting!
Antwort von Zizi:
Again synonymous for you: I have the 5D II has often tested because I start strong interest s.der Cam had. Only - my expectations in terms of picture quality, the Cam is in the direction of Gray-Schwarznuancierung and the ausgefressenen White (Lights) do not meet. I could buy them to me at any time, but why should I ü. 2000 Euro for the body to spend, if I am in the video mode for 800Euro better 500D can buy? And this brings me is not the synonymous something better Lowlight about the 5D II to buy, because I do not mainly in the ghost train film wants. And so good is because they are not synonymous (do you know even s.besten - Music video of you in terms of noise behavior).
Regards
PS: If you miss the 5D II, however, want to sell because you do not zurechtkommst or so - I you buy it for 1000 euro wg. good photo mode, but not a cent more - Zizi.
No. I am being so happy with the part that I do not look around me of the purchase price would hergeben!
A Xh A2 with a sensor of the 500D would be synonymous to me rather than the 5D ..
But then no longer as 4 million. Pixels for better Lowlight and FullHD 50/25 fps!
The 20 fps are not used except to still ... and if movement is dan 720 30p but with which you can then in turn with the bad mix FullHD should / can!
For me, the 500D in the video what I've seen so far at worlds better than the D90 and 5D after arguably the 2 Best Video DSLR.
But what film look, sharpness, Lowlight are by far can not be with the big sister to keep up!
20fps .. is complete nonsense .. None is ever standard!
If you want it so yes comics adaptation .. for this film is geruckel devinitiv not to use!
Antwort von meawk:
The 20 fps are not used except to still ... and if movement is dan 720 30p but with which you can then in turn with the bad mix FullHD should / can!
That you say? Why should / can not you "mix" - Zizi? Had me again. . . You have to be synonymous ever your reasons for writing and not just say something.
And the 20fps are very easy to use, why not. . .
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Yes, I'm so synonymous times of Meihnung - 20 FPS in a good resolution is better than nothing - clearly not a standard but still enough "current image" in order to exploit ......
See your gray heron - who had since NEN difference s.20FPS noticed - nobody .... there were 10 pictures of themselves ;-)
(Are times but good shots by the way)
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von Zizi:
And the 20fps are very easy to use, why not. . .
I have already too jerky 24p .. because it is very quiet and clean film. because I want to calculate how garnicht only as a 4 fps less work! Certainly for some situations it will be enough, but I always say or garnicht!
Because I can make serial pictures and so together snippets ala thumb cinema!
Why should / can not you "mix" - Zizi?
Why: because the fürn A. ... is!
If you want the 720p to 1080p aufskalieren and verschmeißen or 10 images in the 1080p and 720p runterskalieren dan schärfe the loss in buying them?
Is it all nonsense .. films because you prefer everything in 720 30p!
See your gray heron - who had since NEN difference s.20FPS noticed - nobody .... there were 10 pictures of themselves ;-)
10 fps and less like that would geruckelt sow!
Although not in a Still Image but when the bird is moving with him and I follow the Cam you would suffer an eye cancer!
Such images can not but mention FullHD .. FullHD slideshow rather! Youtube can greet ..
Well as you have said but did .. Like nothing better ..
The 5D was synonymous with the 4K resolution should incorporate ala 15p
Question Why would halt .. so a couple of spinners to believe they had now equal as the Red Cam ..
I bleib dabei .. anything under 24 is no longer true shooting and did not fit into the 21st Century ..
Eadweard Muybridge times are gone, thank God ..
Antwort von kiteschlampe:
somehow, the 500D actually 5dmII to the videos in the nose in front, because when you mkII always stylish medium tiefenschärfe can have influence.
hab da mal nan film seen, I think the powermac has linked and there was always a bit blurred. sometimes I would not have.
and what the 20 pictures in 1080 is concerned: this is politics, baby, with technology and has nothing more to do.
bothers me that so I will have neither the one nor the other to buy, until 1080 P 25
With other words:
hallo canon, would have the 500D 1080/25fps, it would have more customer-NEN. can you hear me, their politicians?
until then, I consider it as a speaker:
ne video movies to video camera.
Antwort von MacSeller:
I have the time to have a canon HF10 (;'m really happy), it is worth the Canon EOS 500D to fetch? for better video recording to achieve results?
mfg
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
I do not really arguments as to why the video mode of 500 D should be better.
AF function on asterisk button had both (although the 500 D takes forever long until she finds the sharpness - green icon (squared) as a confirmation).
Nachführmessung during AF (AF that is pure without permanently somewhere draufzudrücken) I have not found synonymous, that is sharp when asked, must once again the star key to the next distance determination to be pushed.
I find the AF (or better the unique focus) is still significantly makers than the 5 D MK II
Manual, Aperture and Shutter is not synonymous, since the camera is now a separate button (video) has videos and only in this mode are feasible. In this video menu, you can adjust synonymous very little, because several riders of the photo features weggelöscht were.
Whether you agree with manual Nikon lenses in the new mode can adjust the exposure, I can not say that an AV or TV mode comes with the 500 D in the video function.
Exposure Compensation goes as the 5 D MK II
Then another customer came to me, the video function in a much too loud clicking is true (while the focal length changes with the Optics) - will I look again ....
I'm not so enthusiastic about them ....
VG
Jan
Antwort von Zizi:
I have the time to have a canon HF10 ('m really happy), it is worth the Canon EOS 500D to fetch? for better video recording to achieve results?
No! Also, this is no comparison ..
If however you turn short films and staged exactly would be a reflexion! Otherwise stay in your HF10 is excellent Iene Camera!
