Infoseite // Canon HG21 vs HV30



Frage von Blutox:


Hi,

times I wanted to address issues such as the Canon HG 21 of recording. is the quality like the HV30 with mini DV tapes. So, the HG21 in quality to DV or DV? And what the difference between HF and HG HV?

Thank you:)

With regards freunlichen

Blutox

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Antwort von deti:

HV * characterized in anamorphic 1440x1080 with 25MBit / s in MPEG2 * HF / HG * draw in up to 1920x1080 with up to 25MBit / s in H.264 AVC (advertising relevant AVCHD) on.

HV * store their data on tape.
HF * Save files to an internal flash memory or SD card.
HG * Save files to an internal hard drive or SD Card.

HG20, 21 and HF11 deliver the best quality results, because they 25MBit / s H.264 (AVCHD) recording. They have the newer video encoder, in the fast movements shows more details (but that is for the layman as well as non-detectable).

HF10 and HF100, only with up to 17MBit / s H.264 (AVCHD) recording, but the quality is still excellent.

HV * cameras draw in slightly older MPEG2 format, which in many areas of well-established. However, H.264 encoded with higher efficiency compared to MPEG2, which is about a factor of 1.5 with at bitrates must reckon. For example, an MPEG2 data stream with 25MBit / s about a H.264 data stream with 17Mbit / s for the same optical quality.

HV * cameras still function as one, the video presents. Here is linearly recorded on tape. Very likely it will be this kind of cameras no longer on the market, because they are no longer state of the art.

Many videographers have considerable problems with the new AVCHD cameras, either, because the processing of the former are quite different. Who exactly in the topic, since no major problems have been with the new technology, either, since all the current editing programs can easily handle AVCHD. What is important here is primarily a faster Calculator (s.Core2 Duo with 3 GHz).

If you for example the Canon HF-100 take, you have a cheap little camera with great picture quality. To record you need SDHC cards, with which it 16Gbytes p.25 ¬ in the mail there. These cards you can record either to the USB from the camera out or simply plug in a card. Such a map is sufficient for 2.5 hours of video with 17Mbit / s.

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Antwort von Blutox:

I thought the device with mini dv has the best quality, because most of the hard disk camcorder very compressed record. now ask what is more worthwhile to get. dv or hard disk.

but I think if the data load on the computer so you can decide how the material on the hd HDV Video is issued. Videos will be hard but as a closed or video file stored? or clips?

Only question is whether the man with the hg in dv quality record, or is simply something kompremiertes is to cut and worse than the hv variant HDV Video with the nazu almost dv quality recording. HDV Video with the better should we cut, it was once said to me. has, the HG21 with the changed now? about 1-3 months before the hard disk variants were discouraged because the people who cut and so are not as good as with the Video.

am a little confused: (

friendly with castings

Blutox

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Antwort von deti:

There is no reason for the confusion. Currently, only a lot of changes in this area:

Regardless of the optical properties of the lens and the image sensor is used:

- HDV video can be up to 1440x1080 pixels with 25MBit / s record.
- AVCHD video can be up to 1920x1080 pixels with 25MBit / s record.

Through the more efficient compression of the H.264 AVC standard is an improvement of 50% compared to the MPEG2 - Video - Standard achieved. This is a AVC stream with 25MBit / s corresponds to an MPEG2 data stream with 37Mbit / s.

HDV is, however, the system never with more than 25MBit / s and thus can record AVCHD cameras are with 25MBit / s is clearly the front.

You can see the files to the AVCHD camera footage to a PC umkopieren - in the simplest case with the Explorer. Each file corresponds to one take, if not more than 2Gbyte long. Then, file a new car started. The reading of the files is with approx 20Mbytes / s - about 6 times as fast compared to the old HDV format, where the tape in real time, so had to play it is available.

To cut: All the current programs (eg, Magix Video Deluxe) can handle AVCHD files directly and therefore require no special knowledge. It was not true that the greater compression of the H.264 AVC format dirt stronger effects come to light. That was especially so early and is now, thanks to better codecs and higher data rates fixed.

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Antwort von Quadruplex:

"deti" wrote: To cut: All the current programs (eg, Magix Video Deluxe) can handle AVCHD files directly and therefore require no special knowledge.
Most editing programs (definitely Magix VDL, synonymous the latest version) to AVCHD to another, easily editable format. This puts the time advantage when compared to tape dubbing clear.

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Antwort von Blutox:

So worth it not a hv30 to buy but a hg21. because HDV cassettes müll are said ünertrieben ^ ^?

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Antwort von Quadruplex:

"Blutox" wrote: because HDV cassettes müll are said ünertrieben ^ ^?
How do?

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Antwort von Blutox:

I think I have understood so that it is more net worth operated HDV camcorder cassettes to buy. now I fear I am in 2-3 years no mini HDV cassettes can buy for a dv30 oO because the disk appears to better lengths.

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Antwort von Daveee:

complete idiocy ... MiniDV cassettes are after and after disappear, but it will still take some years (see VHS) ... I personally would advise you to the HV30, because you always backup your material on tape and technically 100% no problems in the postpro. The capturing is cumbersome, but nevertheless, the MiniDV tapes in my opinion, still more advantages than disadvantages to AVCHD and co

just my 2 cents ...

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Antwort von Ernesto:

Honestly, how many professional AVCHD camcorders are available on the market?
I am only one known, Panasonic AG-HMC-151.
Many Proficams characterized in contrast to HDV? The mini-DV tape and lives synonymous professionals like to use here.
Sonyhat especially in recent times new HDV cams in the market.
I see the way HDV for professional work in Lowbudget and AVCHD, the consumer use.
The Mini-DV 13 GB for 1.99 ¬ and for the "rich" Consumer 16GB for ¬ 19.99.
Boosting the economy finally asks s.and data not synonymous.

vile Regards Ernesto

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Antwort von Quadruplex:

"Blutox" wrote: I think I have understood so that it is more net worth operated HDV camcorder cassettes to buy.
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