Frage von shazam:
Hello,
After a few visits are two specialty camcorder remained necessary for me to question:
SonyHDR-HC7
Canon HV20
The HV20 will cost hundreds but no more, the question is whether this is worth to invest. Has anyone experience with the models and can advise me? For me important is that I set some synonymous manual can prove that the camera with a wide variety of lighting conditions and is clearly above all the color I can make myself.
Even besides that, I am next year at the Film Academy of Vienna to apply - for the course of production. And since it is customary that you must deliver a movie to ever be invited for the entrance examination will be added will be synonymous with this camera filmed.
Synonymous once I've read that the HV20, the recording sounds on tape mitaufgezeichnet be. Can someone confirm me? (Sure you get that with an external Micro away, but yet again würd me interested).
Worzu So would you advise me?
Antwort von baerfot:
The Bandgerüschen with the AGM at 20, I confirm eigenenm experience - I had the opportunity to both cams for one weekend out. The decision is then relatively quickly and very clearly for the Sony favor.
My reasons were:
- Just the main Tonproblematik (I just wanted synonymous filming times in situations where a ext. MicroStation me "disabled" would have)
- Much better ergonomics while Sony housing - it is better in the hand
- The "processing" of Sonywirkt significantly high
- The Lanc - connection - possibly coming soon to a sports chassis to (beach, snow and shallow water suitable)
- The "NightShot" feature (not yet "need")
- Better photo function (which is really good!)
The "prejudices" in Comparison to Canon were to dismantle are:
- The touch-screen operation
- The "sony-own" accessory shoe
- The lack of analog input (but yes I want HD film :-))
- "Supposedly" better pictures (on my 106er plasma but was really no difference to be seen)
The real issue but the decisive points 1 o'clock-3 o'clock of the top - so sound, ergonomics and performance.
I would be so again at any time decide!
Antwort von immanuelkant:
Your question is actually here http://forum.slashcam.de/viewtopic.php?p=278408 # 278408 4 days ago already been treated.
Your "predecessor" was then somehow for the HV30 (HV20) decided, without, however, to be happy (see the following Problemtreads of Alexander aka Rock Royal since Friday).
http://forum.slashcam.de/viewtopic.php?p=278550 # 278550
http://forum.slashcam.de/viewtopic.php?p=278480 # 278480
Here are my personal recommendation: HDR-HC7 or the successor to the HDR-HC9 ...
Antwort von Coyoty:
Have recently read in this forum that a user is the role of the autofocus and the image of the stabilizers has very criticized - not only now knows more about getting the 20 or the HV HV 30 was - in each case, but Canon.
Antwort von he2lmuth:
Considering fact that the tests of the HC7 and HC9 in many score completely wrong. There were and are a half dozen features ignored but are available!
Hellmuth
Antwort von Jan:
Yeah, I actually have not read that one user in the HC 7 & 9 the following features has interpreted wrong.
HC 7 / 9 is just like 20 & HV 30 a manual shutter, all four have a manual Tonaussteuerung.
May have been the SonySR models (SR 7 sounds similar) is used, the SR models have really no manual shutter and manual Tonaussteuerung not synonymous.
The differences posted here can be seen as OK to apply.
Active video gave all 4 cameras a final score of 71 score, the customer should select their favorite content - at the moment there are more customers halt the Canons drawn closer.
Zb in the Photo function, Lanc & Peaking is the SonyHC, 9 Canons superior.
VG
Jan
Antwort von he2lmuth:
That was not a user, but with the TEST Slashcam the cameras!
Happy Easter
Antwort von Jan:
Ok, but Slashcam did not mention wrong. Well, because the HDV models (HC 7, HC 9, HV 20 & HV 30) but many similarities exist, you do not need to list every time.
If Slashcam would have written "The HC 7.9 have no manual and no manual shutter Tonaussteuerung, synonymous and no S-Video option" - then do you right - I think that was not the case.
VG
Jan
Antwort von he2lmuth:
Hi Jan,
we write to each other.
I do not want to be the big whingers, but when testing the tables of the features are wrong synonymous and may not be corrected then it is not OK, especially since, if the expense of a company does and the other seems better ...
http://forum.slashcam.de/search.php?search_id=egosearch
Maybe you want to out my posts from May 2007 show.
Regards
Hellmuth
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... The features tables wrong ... if the expense of a company does and the other seems better ... Look's good times: who is accustomed to, often times the wrong information on the Sony website to distrust, which must be in the Slashcam table is not only transition ;-) The error here, however, affected not Sony alone, so that the times one, other times the mark appears better.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Jan:
Achso probably Slashcam in the database is a mistake. In the database or a test?
I can not remember the HC 7 & 9 no manual shutter, no manual Tonaussteuerung ever to have attributed.
Of the Slashcammachern because I had read nothing actually synonymous.
It can sometimes be that a user someday was wrong.
And yes Sony.de synonymous changes its mistakes rather late.
First, they have the least error of SR 11 & 12 (headphone output and microphone input) changed after they had notified the user.
VG
Jan
Antwort von shazam:
so, thank you for your answer, ask if the synonymous already more in the forum was.
I have now for the sony model decided, after some presivergleichen, I saw the hc9 about the same price level as the HC7 - it pays the successor model to take, are there any significant improvements? has someone experience with this model - Macken, remarkable - like synonymous lob:)
Thank you!
Antwort von Jan:
Still heard nothing bad, HC 9 is not synonymous but many on the market. For the often manual "Scharf plate" Peaking is already a reason to buy, the function is even better than in the higher class presented Camera HDR FX 1 solved. Sharpness adjustment assistance in 3 colors and synonymous with Zebra (over exposure assistance) used together.
Peaking is very useful if the risk is high that the AutoFocus long studied (pumps), so the cameraman rather purports to remove itself - especially in bad Schlummlicht.
To remove the manual to be able to estimate well, you need a good Monitor & Viewfinder. Den gibts but not with HD cameras for ¬ 500-4000. Peaking helps the cameraman synonymous, despite their poor equipment, the right distance to find objects in the current Focus, are sharp traced - or rather the edges.
Alternatively, in white, red or yellow (HC 9) to reflect the correct distance setting set.
Slashcam gave us a test synonymous presents:
Wet paint! Video Active was 7 & HC 9, HC final score of 71 score.
Well, I'm a black friend, so the new cards have been better for me.
VG
Jan
Antwort von GeorgeIsOn:
... I have now for the sony model decided ... someone experiences with this model - Macken, remarkable - like synonymous lob :)... So - the decision was basically right!
I'm just one week of vacation with my HC 9 back and I must say it is a "decent" representatives had my FX 7 (under your options).
I am very satisfied with the results at dusk or night shots synonymous in the lighted hotel.
Pleasant handling and a very serious photo function let me not regret my purchase.
Antwort von immanuelkant:
...
So - the decision was basically right!
I'm just one week of vacation with my HC 9 back and I must say it is a "decent" representatives had my FX 7 (in the context of your opportunities )..... Ha, that's funny: Did I just synonymous to HC9 as "representative" of my FX1 increased to just a small camera with synonymous times to be flexible (it also comes with a great HDV camera as hand luggage so little when flying with ).
The trend is clearly secondary to the HDV camera ;-)
PS. However (at least what my FX1 concerns) are the images of the HC9 synonymous with very good Lichtverhälnissen worse (but not bad!). Picture The impression is always something "flat". But that is synonymous normal - who is expecting something else is a dreamer. Between the two models are exactly 2000 EUR ...
Antwort von dukebtd:
As I said: I was on holiday - the images are made of pure "memory value" and since I use the HC 9 on the basis of your rather modest and somewhat "Fummel man. Controls for more than 2 / 3 in automatic mode, I am with the results satisfied (so ... within its capabilities ...) - are clear images of a well-set FX 1 / 7 be better, but at 2000 ¬ difference is with the claim of a "leisure or family movies" with the HC 9 absolutely no mistakes.
Antwort von dukebtd:
Still remember what PS: have the free program which enclosed the HC 9 times yesterday installed -
sensational! It is like capturing with HDV Split - only with preview :-) and the organization of the clips in the "calendar format" is the ideal working tool for beginners and hobby synonymous ambitious filmmakers.
Only edit I have (so far) is not done - because I "trusted" alternatives ...
