Newsmeldung von slashCAM:Canon HV20 of thomas - 31 Jan 2007 12:58:00 Canon has (After initial rumors already on the net courses are), now the Canon HV20 presented. Feature: The new 25p mode (which is already in the
HV10 as a hidden 25 P-fashion to news reporting
Antwort von uho:
s.Hat the HV20 a Firewire output for overnight wear of the tape? If not how can you play on?
b) The resolution is here with the HDV - 1440x1080 standard specified, but are synonymous elsewhere referred to 1980x1080. How should I interpret this?
Ultimately synonymous is important what's actually on tape comes. Since you have to wait well on tests ...
Antwort von uho:
to s.Die HV20 has a Firewire output. Then the nights playing on the "normal" way possible.
Antwort von Markus:
b) The resolution is here with the HDV - 1440x1080 standard specified, but are synonymous elsewhere referred to 1980x1080. How should I interpret this? See here:
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Antwort von alwe2007:
b) The resolution is here with the HDV - 1440x1080 standard specified, but are synonymous elsewhere referred to 1980x1080. How should I interpret this? It captures the HDV standard is 1440x1080 - 1920x1080 Resolutiondes the chips will be scaled to the recording on tape, maybe it will be original but live via HDMI on a HDTV Television output
Antwort von Valentino:
So the crux of the matter s.der Camera is clearly the lack of Lanc port. If Canon has the camera for the "professional" should be reserved recommends already a Lanc port s.der his camera. The is even s.jeder Or Cheap Sony Panasonic Camera available.
Have since Canon igrendwie gepennt than the Camera have developed.
That is as if a new VW Golf Zentralverrigelung or no airbag has.
Rest is probably the 25p mode on mine Schnittsytemen incompatible because Canon again in their own HDV standard has. What is so hard to the full in two fields should be subdivided,
Sony Is it synonymous.
But what is clear is that the camera is probably the sharpest images is HDV.
Antwort von 25p:
I think the 25p in the HV20 is HDV compatible. The picture is simply broken, so it seems to be 50i. Sowas was already at the Panasonic DVX100E applied with success.
I am interested in more, such as Canon with the "shakes" at 25p bypasses, ie, there is a motion blur (a manual adjustable exposure time to 1 / 25 sec)?
How will the Resolutionsein and how the weak light behavior?
Is it because of the Artifacts Limited data rate of the HDV format type?
Antwort von Valentino:
I am interested in more, such as Canon with the "shakes" at 25p bypasses, ie, there is a motion blur (a manual adjustable exposure time to 1 / 25 sec)?
AAHHH .... Help
I think with the 25p and the bucking people never learn. Even in video journals the authors write about the V1 as synonymous of the XH-A but it would be a minus point the cameras in 25p mode Jerkiness.
To which is now synonymous times for Letzeten to explain is almost as 25p and 24p which we see in movies. Now the question has anyone of you in a movie or a fast swing speed Zoomfahrt seen? No because everyone in the film knows how he does not Jerkiness can occur.
In most cases, the camera moves (very slowly) on a dolly or a crane is mounted.
Who synonymous even a tripod in the film has seen the white man so s.der Page has mostly two Krubeln you must rotate very quickly so that the camera moves about anything.
There are even extra tables on which is set out as fast as I swing at what may be focal, so it's not bucking.
But if a few Amerteure the Camera in hand, they nehemen at 25p mode the picture is jerky and it then synonymous still camera or the 25p mode of the poor to blame.
Clearly this is totally normal until you look at the error then the others with him, I would make it synonymous ;-)
Antwort von PowerMac:
25p video is not film at 24p. Recently there have been NEN thread, as was well explained what the difference is. 25p on video "shuttert" actually more.
Antwort von Jan:
Most editing programs have problems but now the movie look Canon 25 f (24 f or no idea) mode CINE CINE Gamma and Matrix to see Canon speaks of nearly acquired from the mode A 1 XH / G 1, s.einen the new right 25 P mode, I can not believe it right.
I can not believe it right that with the HV 20 is better.
I think s.die not synonymous true 1 / 25 sec, will be the same times to check on receipt of the camera, the Panasonic GS 500 is supposedly synonymous 1 / 25 sec look at the cinema - so what is wrong - 1 / 50 sec!
VG
Jan
Antwort von Martin:
To which is now synonymous times for Letzeten to explain is almost as 25p and 24p which we see in movies. Now the question has anyone of you in a movie or a fast swing speed Zoomfahrt seen? No because everyone in the film knows how he does not Jerkiness can occur. True - this is one aspect. No camera movement, and if yes: check.
The other aspect is that the sense of film is that, although not necessarily the camera, but nevertheless moving objects in the film. The human eye is apparently better able to compensate for low frame rates when moving objects bring a motion blur caused by a longer exposure time is at something like 25p so 1/25s. The Camera supports the apparently yes.
Incidentally, the HV20 in 24p with the United States advertised ;-)
Greeting
Martin
Antwort von apfel_nico:
bewegungsunschaerfe by 1/25s film would not be typical.
actually does a film camera with rotating bezel
with 1 / 48. would therefore correspond 25p 1/50s.
In fact, there is swivel tables. rotated rather
"conservative" - dynamics is then cut by more.
next can of course synonymous low schaerfentiefe serve.
eg for a trip to one person. head is fairly quiet in the
building and in focus, background swings like crazy, but
in the blur and then not bother next. with the same
the small chip mills would be a picture on the dizzy
will generate. this is often the "secret" of the seemingly
quieter bildes at 35mm. and it belongs to a lot of know -
and, routine and talent to this synonymous use.
next swivel tables are just synonymous schaerfetabellen,
what schaerfentiefen broken abhaengig of
focal length, distance, hide.
Antwort von Jan:
Yes today was synonymous to the roadshow - in Munich.
And did my HV 20 times more synonymous explained and viewed and played.
Although it started off funny - "HDV with are Canon, JVC, Panasonic and Sony - Panasonic is AVCHD and DVC PRO HD is, but certainly not with HDV - the question of the mere Wide Angled HV 10 / 20 could not synonymous be answered, but I had already guessed. The Building & Grounds costs were raised.
Now for the Pros score of HV 20 - manual Tonaussteuerung I found nice, although both channels together, but yes, we had suspected.
Schön Level with 3 colors - so that everyone knows where he resides grade.
The HV 20 has a built Graufilter, but the only car at high aperture values or high brightness zuschaltet occurrences.
The HDV Cinema 25 P - 13 parameters are fixed, very similar to that of the XH A 1 - only manual. The shutter speed can be chosen freely Cinema, nothing with a 1 / 25 seconds, we are many companies nacheffen.
A very amazing picture in the cinema mode with 1 / 50 sec, it resembles a 1 / 25 sec picture, it melt the frames have any trouble, look was a little softer and lighter, less contrast. Canon speaks of real frames, not zusammengemanschte fields, the new CMOS chip is to be responsible, among others.
The new CMOS was like the Canon SLR Rafinessen known refined. Each pixel diode now has a micro lens, with an even better light output is realized. Unfortunately, I had no Lowlight, of her feeling, however, was already a better snooze photograph
than the critical HV 10 to see.
Unfortunately I have the sharpness of error rediscovered s.Ende it comes to wearing the zoom, which means the AF camera pumping short times and knows at the moment is not exactly what they should do so would have to be 7-8x. This occurs only on very bright surfaces and lighting - were determined distance over 10 meters - too close, I was not. A similar error had the synonymous HV 10 - just as you would read in some forums had.
AF is very fast, especially of food on long distance (1 m a person then the person goes away - infinity), AF reacted quickly, even faster than some Sony - and these are the best in the area!
Menu, known as the shutter speed code, prefix aperture. Using the + - scale is synonymous the Aperture open & close it not only knows exactly where it is like with the manual shutter to work together.
Wide-converter is the new WD H 43 - a hot part, only for the model built, that there are good lenses installed, remember you have s.Gewicht.
X factor is 0.7, so that the cam get a usable WW.
The converter is not exactly small, it is said Canon would bring out all s.Qualität, which is synonymous certainly not be cheap, na mal schauen.
Battery is now BP 2 L 13, it can be synonymous to the NB 2 LH of the SLR 350 / 400 D or the Powershot G 7 are used, what Canon is expected to enjoy friends.
The CMOS creates really 1920x1080 True HD is supported by the HDV 2 Specifications then 1440x1080 abgeregelt, noise reduction is already incorporated in the CMOS, an Other "werkelt" later on this.
According to Canon documentation synonymous Sony XD CAM HD CAM and work with 1440x1080, I was a little surprised.
The Canon AVCHD Camera one until Christmas rausbringt is considered bomb-proof, I think you can in the Canon documentation hardly the H.264 codec as AVCHD & praise without actually such a camera in the range to have .....
VG
Jan
Antwort von PowerMac:
1440x1080 for HDCAM and XDCAM HD. Yes and?
Antwort von Jan:
I thought I had time to read that HD CAM - Full HD 1920x1080 has - I've probably made a mistake .....
VG
Jan
Antwort von alibaba:
Interesting thread s.Jan and many thanks for the detailed reporting.
One thing I still do not really understand:
How can I understand the format of the camera now edit? Specifically I am interested in Avid Xpress, because the solution would be my cut: I can so that the progressive or edit images at 25p, I have the same restrictions as in DVCPro 720p, which I still can not handle?
The Camera is a 1080i format - that would be no problem because Avid can handle it. But how to fit images in 1080i Progressive's game?
Would be nice if someone could enlighten, synonymous because when I actually a HVX200 in the eye had taken, would be a nice cam for certain situations in which the HVX is too large and would be conspicuous.
Antwort von Jan:
Dieter Küppersbusch - Canon HDV professional coach was there, and continues to the delight of a certain user here prefer the Mac. Final Cut - Premiere Pro of the PC world was used, it should work, even the current I-Move.
Unfortunately we had too little time, and could not function with 25 P demonstrated Final Cut get - if I understand correctly rausgehört would be there to work. Cutting is not my "area".
VG
Jan
Antwort von murks:
Thanks for the info.
I can understand the word Final Cut did not hear more ;-). There will always and repeatedly referred to this program and even in the Avid forum's always a question.
The joke is: I work actually s.Mac (Mac Pro) - but with Avid and it should remain synonymous. Well, you should at Avid with the next release no information as to the supported format change, I will probably forced synonymous times with FC closer look. The thing I like this but so far has seen, I was not really great.
Antwort von Jan:
But please ask the user with the Final Cut really know have once again after some time has such a time a user synonymous HV 20 in the hand.
The question will probably be what you set there, so it works.
VG
Jan
